Who beat the most undefeated fighters
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Who beat the most undefeated fighters
So what fighters beat the most 'previously undefeated' opponents? To make it easier only pick opponents that had at least 10 wins under their belt, that way it will cut out all the fighters who feasted on debutants or fighters with records of 1-0, 2-0, 3-0 etc...etc....
Larry Holmes had 10 wins but I'm sure there are others with higher. Interestingly 5 of Holmes 6 defeats were to unbeaten fighters as well, Spinks (27-0), Spinks (28-0), Tyson (32-0), Holyfield (27-0) and Nielsen (31-0).
Only Oliver McCall had a losing record when he beat Holmes (25-5)
Holmes wins against at least 10-0 fighters were -
Ray Mercer 18-0
Carl Williams 16-0
David Bey 14-0
Marvis Frazier 10-0
Scott Frank 20-0-1
Tim Witherspoon 15-0
Gerry Cooney 25-0
Renaldo Snipes 22-0
Leroy Jones 24-0-1
Ossie Ocasio 13-0
Larry Holmes had 10 wins but I'm sure there are others with higher. Interestingly 5 of Holmes 6 defeats were to unbeaten fighters as well, Spinks (27-0), Spinks (28-0), Tyson (32-0), Holyfield (27-0) and Nielsen (31-0).
Only Oliver McCall had a losing record when he beat Holmes (25-5)
Holmes wins against at least 10-0 fighters were -
Ray Mercer 18-0
Carl Williams 16-0
David Bey 14-0
Marvis Frazier 10-0
Scott Frank 20-0-1
Tim Witherspoon 15-0
Gerry Cooney 25-0
Renaldo Snipes 22-0
Leroy Jones 24-0-1
Ossie Ocasio 13-0
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Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
Done a bit of digging and it looks like Holmes has this won anyway, probably explains the lack of replies.
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Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
Eh, Marciano what?yancey wrote:Marciano?
Did you read the question?
Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
I was joking, bud.Controversial wrote:Eh, Marciano what?yancey wrote:Marciano?
Did you read the question?
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Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
None of these beat Holmes...but I will continue my search!
8-RJJ (Thomes 24-0, Toney 44-0-2, Brannon 16-0, Griffin 27-0, Harding 19-0-1, Gonzalez 27-0, Kelly 28-0-1, Hanshaw 21-0-1)
7-Wladimir (Najee Shaheed-16-0-1, Zoran Vujecic-14-0, Eliseo Castillo-18-0-1, Samuel Peter 24-0, Calvin Brock-29-0, Sultan Ibragimov-22-0-1, Ruslan Chagaev-25-0-1)
6-De La Hoya (Bredahl 16-0, Campanella 20-0, Hernandez 32-0-1, Gonzalez 41-0, Quartey 34-0-1, Sturm 20-0)
6-Cotto (Maussa 17-0, Pinto 21-0, Torres 28-0, Malignaggi 21-0, Quintana 23-0, Foreman 28-0)
5-Calzaghe (Delaney 21-0, Hughes 12-0, Veit 30-0, Lacy 21-0, Kessler 29-0)
Again not in with a shout but interestingly Bradley has had 3 unbeaten opponents in his last 4 bouts (Peterson, Abregu and Alexander)
8-RJJ (Thomes 24-0, Toney 44-0-2, Brannon 16-0, Griffin 27-0, Harding 19-0-1, Gonzalez 27-0, Kelly 28-0-1, Hanshaw 21-0-1)
7-Wladimir (Najee Shaheed-16-0-1, Zoran Vujecic-14-0, Eliseo Castillo-18-0-1, Samuel Peter 24-0, Calvin Brock-29-0, Sultan Ibragimov-22-0-1, Ruslan Chagaev-25-0-1)
6-De La Hoya (Bredahl 16-0, Campanella 20-0, Hernandez 32-0-1, Gonzalez 41-0, Quartey 34-0-1, Sturm 20-0)
6-Cotto (Maussa 17-0, Pinto 21-0, Torres 28-0, Malignaggi 21-0, Quintana 23-0, Foreman 28-0)
5-Calzaghe (Delaney 21-0, Hughes 12-0, Veit 30-0, Lacy 21-0, Kessler 29-0)
Again not in with a shout but interestingly Bradley has had 3 unbeaten opponents in his last 4 bouts (Peterson, Abregu and Alexander)
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Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
George Foreman beat six undefeated fighters
Lou Savarese 36-0
Crawford Grimsley 20-0
Michael Moorer 35-0
Jimmy Ellis 16-0-1
John Dino Denis 28-0-1
Joe Frazier 29-0
Lou Savarese 36-0
Crawford Grimsley 20-0
Michael Moorer 35-0
Jimmy Ellis 16-0-1
John Dino Denis 28-0-1
Joe Frazier 29-0
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Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
Tyson Fury has beat 4 undefeated fighters already in only 17 fights. Not a bad % 
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Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
This is very telling how spoonfed so many fighters have been over the last few decades. Really shows how deceiving win/loss records can be. It would be interesting if we could find someone from before the 1960s who had 5 more wins over undefeated opponents (with 10 or more wins.)
Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
I was thinking the same thing.Ambling Alp wrote:This is very telling how spoonfed so many fighters have been over the last few decades. Really shows how deceiving win/loss records can be. It would be interesting if we could find someone from before the 1960s who had 5 more wins over undefeated opponents (with 10 or more wins.)
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Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
Yes very telling, I'm struggling to find anyAmbling Alp wrote:This is very telling how spoonfed so many fighters have been over the last few decades. Really shows how deceiving win/loss records can be. It would be interesting if we could find someone from before the 1960s who had 5 more wins over undefeated opponents (with 10 or more wins.)
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Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
Virgil Hill had six as well
Valery Brudov 30-0
Darius Michalczewski 33-0
Henry Maske 30-0
Lou De Valle 22-0
Fabrice Tiozzo 25-0
Joe Lasisi 20-0
Valery Brudov 30-0
Darius Michalczewski 33-0
Henry Maske 30-0
Lou De Valle 22-0
Fabrice Tiozzo 25-0
Joe Lasisi 20-0
Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
7 for JCC
David Kamau
Andy Holligan
Marty Jakubowski
Angel Hernandez
Meldrick Taylor
Alberto de las Mercedes Cortes
Rodolfo Aguilar
David Kamau
Andy Holligan
Marty Jakubowski
Angel Hernandez
Meldrick Taylor
Alberto de las Mercedes Cortes
Rodolfo Aguilar
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
Very difficult.
Tito beat 5.
Tito beat 5.
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Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
I hope you're not counting De La Hoya...SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Very difficult.
Tito beat 5.
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Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
I gave up looking at the pre-1980's guys, despite fighting hundreds of times I don't think I saw a single one combined between SRR, Pep and Moore...Ambling Alp wrote:This is very telling how spoonfed so many fighters have been over the last few decades. Really shows how deceiving win/loss records can be. It would be interesting if we could find someone from before the 1960s who had 5 more wins over undefeated opponents (with 10 or more wins.)
Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
Here is match numbers wise with Larry. And it has one legend contained within it. (Though that's about all it has)
Question: Who beat the following fighters:
Frank Hatfield 0-0-1
Al Dublinski 0-0-0
Deacon Logan 2-0-0
Leonard Dugan 5-0-0
Rinaldo Anslaoni 2-0-0
Dogomar Martinez 24-0-1
Mike Dibiase 0-0-0
Professor Roy Shire 0-0-0
Kid Pocohuntas 0-0-0
and.........
wait for it..............
Harold Johnson 24-0-0
Ok and he lost to two undefeated fighters. Patterson and Ali.
Question: Who beat the following fighters:
Frank Hatfield 0-0-1
Al Dublinski 0-0-0
Deacon Logan 2-0-0
Leonard Dugan 5-0-0
Rinaldo Anslaoni 2-0-0
Dogomar Martinez 24-0-1
Mike Dibiase 0-0-0
Professor Roy Shire 0-0-0
Kid Pocohuntas 0-0-0
and.........
wait for it..............
Harold Johnson 24-0-0
Ok and he lost to two undefeated fighters. Patterson and Ali.
Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
The Mongoose.BoxBuzz wrote:Here is match numbers wise with Larry. And it has one legend contained within it. (Though that's about all it has)
Question: Who beat the following fighters:
Frank Hatfield 0-0-1
Al Dublinski 0-0-0
Deacon Logan 2-0-0
Leonard Dugan 5-0-0
Rinaldo Anslaoni 2-0-0
Dogomar Martinez 24-0-1
Mike Dibiase 0-0-0
Professor Roy Shire 0-0-0
Kid Pocohuntas 0-0-0
and.........
wait for it..............
Harold Johnson 24-0-0
Ok and he lost to two undefeated fighters. Patterson and Ali.
Your favorite, right?
Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
He be the man Yance......
I thought Ezz's record might contain a bit of spice for this conversation but surprisingly he only beat 2 maybe 3 undefeated fighters along the way.
I thought Ezz's record might contain a bit of spice for this conversation but surprisingly he only beat 2 maybe 3 undefeated fighters along the way.
Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
As a post script, this will come as a surprise to our resident experts, GI and Saad, but each of those fighters that Archie defeated would have gone on to become great fighters had he not taken the spirit out of them so early in there careers. So it's not fair to discount his record as not being equal or greater than Larry's.
How do I know this you ask?
I referred to the Akashic Record, the final word in all matters debatable.
How do I know this you ask?
I referred to the Akashic Record, the final word in all matters debatable.
Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
I just came from Wikipedia where they say BoxRec has Archie rated the best pound for pound.BoxBuzz wrote:He be the man Yance......
I thought Ezz's record might contain a bit of spice for this conversation but surprisingly he only beat 2 maybe 3 undefeated fighters along the way.
btw, anyone else here been through Benoit, Mississippi, the Moore birthplace? I have, a couple of years ago. Population, 611, per 2000 census. The 1956 movie, Baby Doll, was filmed there.
That area of Mississippi is considered the birthplace of the blues. I bet Archie would have made a great bluesman.
Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
Make that three undefeated fighters......with the loss to Marciano....how could I forget that? Oh yeah, it was maybe his worst day on the job, easy one to forget.......
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Re: Who beat the most undefeated fighters
Actually, (As Oscar would say) Patterson had lost to Maxim before he fought Moore. Though it was a bad decision.BoxBuzz wrote:Here is match numbers wise with Larry. And it has one legend contained within it. (Though that's about all it has)
Question: Who beat the following fighters:
Frank Hatfield 0-0-1
Al Dublinski 0-0-0
Deacon Logan 2-0-0
Leonard Dugan 5-0-0
Rinaldo Anslaoni 2-0-0
Dogomar Martinez 24-0-1
Mike Dibiase 0-0-0
Professor Roy Shire 0-0-0
Kid Pocohuntas 0-0-0
and.........
wait for it..............
Harold Johnson 24-0-0
Ok and he lost to two undefeated fighters. Patterson and Ali.
Moore did beat some interesting names, didn't he? A Deacon, a Professor and a Kid.