Any Bowie Tupou updates?

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Any Bowie Tupou updates?

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hasnt fought since May

i checked out that fight (manuel Quezada ko7) and was quite impressed with him

any news on him at all??
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Bo is living full time in California. He has had his last 13 fights in the USA, winning 12 of them.

I can't see the big Tongan coming back this way soon, his last fight in Australia was in 2006. It is possible he is now an American citizen.

Bo beat stopped Manuel Quezada in 7 rounds his last fight. Chris Areola could only manage a decision against Quezada last year.
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Last night Bowie won a ten round points decision over Donnell Holmes. This takes Bowie's record to 22-1-0 and Holmes to 33-2-2. Good result over an experienced opponent. Demetrice King has not won a fight since being Tupou's sole loss.
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sounds like the king fight was just a trade of punches without any defense from both guys.

king has shown before that he has to be given more respect than that. bowie paid the price for not doing so by the looks of it.

he probably is now a better fighter for that loss now too.
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Bowie won a unamimous but very close points based on all three cards.

On the same card Kariz Kariuki was tko'd in 5.

Over in Suva, Fiji, Australian based fighters: Yao Yi Ma and the great Pradeep Singh faced off, with Singh's towell coming in the 8th to end the proceedings. A report in the Fiji Times can be read HERE.
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The Sydneysider beat the Melburnian.

good win for Ma. :TU:
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Beltane wrote:Bowie won a unamimous but very close points based on all three cards.

On the same card Kariz Kariuki was tko'd in 5.

Over in Suva, Fiji, Australian based fighters: Yao Yi Ma and the great Pradeep Singh faced off, with Singh's towell coming in the 8th to end the proceedings. A report in the Fiji Times can be read HERE.
Good exposure for Tupou on the Froch/Ward card.
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who would u like to see him step up and fight next?

chagaev
mccall
boswell
witherspoon

????????
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The bottom three would be good matchups, but Chagaev is a level too high for Bowie.
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What does that mean? WBC champion Wonjongkam defended his title on Friday against Hirofumi Makai of Japan whose previous fight (first loss in his 6 fight career) was a wide margin loss to Rocky Fuentes for the OPBF title.

Wound up a Technical Draw when Makai suffered an accidental headbutt in the first round.
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Brute wrote:What does that mean? WBC champion Wonjongkam defended his title on Friday against Hirofumi Makai of Japan whose previous fight (first loss in his 6 fight career) was a wide margin loss to Rocky Fuentes for the OPBF title.

Wound up a Technical Draw when Makai suffered an accidental headbutt in the first round.
It means that Tupou has a decent chance against the bottom three, but would likely be outclassed and beaten quite badly by Chagaev.

Thanks for the info about Wonjongkam. He has yet to lose one of his stay busy fights against inferior opposition.
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Wow, now thats the most random comment i've ever heard. A few too many eggnogs mate. Flyweight....heavyweight....tupou and Wonjongkam, how did these two fighters even manage to end up in the same topic.

Nice info....but so freakin random I'm starting to wonder about Alzeimers.

Merry christmas all
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Hounddawg wrote:Wow, now thats the most random comment i've ever heard. A few too many eggnogs mate. Flyweight....heavyweight....tupou and Wonjongkam, how did these two fighters even manage to end up in the same topic.

Nice info....but so freakin random I'm starting to wonder about Alzeimers.

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Heard? Was he standing next to you? Maybe you've had a few too many christmas shandies. Schizophonia.
Merry christmas.
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Worry about yourself.

Wonjongkam is a World Champion and he is fighting ham and eggers. What is to stop Tupou fighting some decent fighters? His record is good.
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Sorry mate, couldn't work out why you just started regurgitating a recent Flyweight result.
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yid14 wrote:
Hounddawg wrote:Wow, now thats the most random comment i've ever heard. A few too many eggnogs mate. Flyweight....heavyweight....tupou and Wonjongkam, how did these two fighters even manage to end up in the same topic.

Nice info....but so freakin random I'm starting to wonder about Alzeimers.

Merry christmas all
Heard? Was he standing next to you? Maybe you've had a few too many christmas shandies. Schizophonia.Merry christmas.


uhhhhhh...you again, just can't get enough can you, well lets make you look stupid again.


Schizophonia is a term coined by R. Murray Schafer to describe the splitting of an original sound and its electroacoustic reproduction...

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Brute wrote:Worry about yourself.

Wonjongkam is a World Champion and he is fighting ham and eggers. What is to stop Tupou fighting some decent fighters? His record is good.
If Bowie wants to develop by testing waters at higher levels he is better off taking small steps against the likes of Chazz Witherspoon or Oliver McCall; he can simultaneously build his record, gain experience, and win. If he jumps straight to world class fighters like Chagaev he will lose (probably badly, which is why I don't see it as a 'good matchup') before meaningful progress can be made in any respect.

That's not to say no benefits will redound to Bowie if jumps straight into the ring with Chagaev; he would probably earn a decent chunk of cash while showing that he is willing to fight the best in the world. However, it's not a good bout to take if he is looking to develop his name, record, and abilities; he would just be another import to fall in Germany.

So a strong case can be made that Chagaev (or any fighter at that level) is the right move for Bowie, and a strong case can be made that it is the wrong move; it depends on what you want him to gain from taking the fight.
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Is Chagaev really that good? His only win over a main event fighter recently was a points win over Meehan, who had been inactive for nearly two years.

Tupou has fought eleven times in the USA since 2008, winning ten of those fights.
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Hounddawg why does it matter that I have a similar username to a guy who supports the same football team? Does it matter that he started posting hear before me? Your hardly a founder member. And I'll admit sometimes I use the wrong words - I'm no writer :lol: I don't doubt your a writer, just think your probably more the coffee maker at some poor second rate website (hence posting so much sh1t on here for free)
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Brute wrote:Is Chagaev really that good? His only win over a main event fighter recently was a points win over Meehan, who had been inactive for nearly two years.

Tupou has fought eleven times in the USA since 2008, winning ten of those fights.
Chagaev is ranked in the top ten by most publications for a reason; he recently gave Povetkin (the #3 HW in the world) the toughest fight of his career, beat top 30ish heavyweights in Walker and Meehan (yes. Kali was inactive, but inactivity doesn't account for losing almost every round), and scored plenty of other good wins over the past few years.

While Bowie is a winner of 10 fights in the USA since 2008, his opposition has been mediocre until recently, so his impressive numerical record simply cloaks (to some degree) his poor quality of opposition; he has never fought anyone remotely good as Chagaev.

My view is that Bowie's chances of beating a world class opponent are very slim; taking a fight with Chagaev would probably erase the momentum built by the Quezada and Holmes wins, pushing his career several steps back from where it is now. I think it would be more beneficial for Bowie to have a couple bouts against the likes of a Jason Gavern, and then step up against Pajkic, McCall, or Witherspoon. In taking this route Bowie could gain experience against beatable opponents while building his name and credibility as contender. If he is able to do this, he will have more opportunities and will be more capable of successfully taking advantage of them.

Bowie is still young for a heavyweight and--given his generally mediocre level of opposition--- inexperienced. Right now a fight with a world class fighter would be tantamount to throwing him to the wolves, whereas a more cautious route that involves gradual steps up would maximize his chances of success. Therefore, I think Bowie should steer clear of world class heavyweights unless he is offered big money, and focus on progressing from C/C+ level fighters to B level fighters (i.e. Witherspoon, McCall, Pajkic, maybe even guys like Damian Wills and Alonzo Butler).
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agree 100% crusader!!!
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He lost to Povetkin for the pretend WBA title. Since then he outpointed in an 8 rounder Travis Walker, who Leapai KOed in 4 rounds.
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yes chagaev is on the way down too by the looks of it, but if bowie took another 2 or 3 fights vs guys a bit lower than chagaev, then fought him, i think it wouldn't hurt.

but i'd still think tupou would give ruslan a tough fight even now. what's the rush though huh?
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Bowie is the younger man, so time is on his side, but I see no point in him fighting boxers of a lower ranking than himself.
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its all education though. different styles, heights etc.

as long as his opponents r not ranked too low though.
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