Has Mayweather's ego finally exploded?

[big lennox]

With the date and all the terms with Pacquaio agreed,Mayweather then decides that more of the money should go to him.Why not just split it 50/50? They are both going to earn tons of dosh, more than either of them have earnt before.I can't believe that Mayweather is scare of Pacquiao as he will have watch all 3 figyhrs against Marquez and concluded that Marquez won all three and that he will not actually have that much trouble counter-punching manny. So why then put in a deal breakin demand. It comes down to ego for me.He wants to have bragging rights that he is top billing. He's one of my favourite fighters to watch, my have one right off him with his form of late (beating up his ex in front of their children, included)

What are people's thoughts?

[Trojans44]

Mayweather generates more money than Pacqiauo and he is therefore completely entitled and justified to negotiate more than 50% of the purse.

I think it was Lou DiBella that pointed if Mayweather fights e.g. Ortiz; Ortiz gets $1m and Mayweather gets $20m. So if he fights Pacqiauo and the margins are much closer, neither fighter will earn that much more than they usually do.

[smcb80]

i doubt mayweather generates more than manny. if this is the case, and he is now demanding more after agreeing 50-50 with MP in a phone conversation, then he never wanted it to happen

[J]

Mayweather generates more money than Pacqiauo and he is therefore completely entitled and justified to negotiate more than 50% of the purse.

I think it was Lou DiBella that pointed if Mayweather fights e.g. Ortiz; Ortiz gets $1m and Mayweather gets $20m. So if he fights Pacqiauo and the margins are much closer, neither fighter will earn that much more than they usually do.

utter bollocks. usual PBF shite inventing more reaosns as to why it shoudlnt happen when it could have bene signed and sealed.

hoep he gets ass fucked in the pen.

[fightscorecollector]

whats next?

long vacation , blood tests , no negotiations whilst lawsuit is on-going (well its still on going so why is floyd negotiating) , no 50-50 , offering flat fees when he knows manny wont accept that

the fight SHOULD have happened 2 year ago but floyd went on a vacation....destroying hatton and cotto was the reason for the vacation i think

[righthook]

Mayweather generates more money than Pacqiauo and he is therefore completely entitled and justified to negotiate more than 50% of the purse.

I think it was Lou DiBella that pointed if Mayweather fights e.g. Ortiz; Ortiz gets $1m and Mayweather gets $20m. So if he fights Pacqiauo and the margins are much closer, neither fighter will earn that much more than they usually do.

who says he generates more money than pacqiauo????????

its greed greed and more greed thats all. mayweather is my best boxer of all time. but the man is a joke.

he said that it will be the biggest pay day of pacqiauos life, of course it will but it will be mayweathers to. they will both walk away with $50 mill each, more than enough for any1. why argue over 5 million or so when your getting more money in this fight than you could ever possibaly spend. mayweather has earned multi millions out of the game so why not give something back to the fans and take the fight every1 wants to see.

i have been a great fan of mayweather for over ten years now, but the more time goes on the more of a tit he becomes.
iv always wanted mayweather to win his fights even when he fought ricky hatton altho he was a brit i still deep down wanted mayweather to win, but if they do ever fight i hope pacman takes his head off. (alltho i cant see it)

the money he will earn off this mega fight is more than he will get for fighting any 2 fighters if not 3 in the sport.

the longer this shit goes on the less people will want to see it. hence the less it will be worth, a year or so from now and the money will have reduced significantly.

[banjo]

Should do win or bust, then we'll see how much of a warrior these two are 8)

[righthook]

a simple solution is 40/40 and the winner gets the other 20

[Trojans44]

It's a matter of concrete fact that mayweather generates more ppv buys than pacqiauo. Do you think that when Alan sugar is doing a deal he says "well we will both earn a lot of money so we'll just split everything 50/50?". Not if he brings more money to the table!

[Deserter]

It's a matter of concrete fact that mayweather generates more ppv buys than pacqiauo. Do you think that when Alan sugar is doing a deal he says "well we will both earn a lot of money so we'll just split everything 50/50?". Not if he brings more money to the table!

It's a poor analogy for two reasons. Firstly, is Sugar stood to earn more from that deal than any other deal he's ever had to make, he'd do it rather than walk away from it and end up with nothing. Secondly, you're distilling it purely to business and what fans want to see if a fighter who also thinks about legacy and displays a passion to prove they are the best. Boxing is a business but it's also a sport and you can't remove that from the equation and all the emotion and passion that is embodied in it.

[Quixall]

This fight is seen as a benchmark fight for for both Pacquaio and Mayweather, particularly Mayweather who treasures and rests a lot of his lorels on the fact that he is still undefeated. Both fighters know that whoever wins this fight will perhaps get rubber-stamped as the best of their era, so this fight is about much more than money alone. I don't think for one minute that Mayweather is scared of Pacquaio and i think that he will win this fight quite easily. For me 50-50 is fine or make it 60-40 for Mayweather if he does generate the interest and the finance or as someone said make it 40-40 and the winner takes the other 20% of the deal.

If manny has agreed to the blood testing that Mayweather wants, i don't think there should be any other distraction. At the end of the day, just have the fornicating fight because there will come a time when no-one will give a shit anymore, because another performance like Pacquaio had last time out against Marquez if he fought anyone other than Mayweather next time out, will convinve people he is slightly shot and the whole aura of a possible fight colapses. This is turning into another Jones - Hopkins II where they argued the toss for years, only to get it on when they were both old men and Jones in particular was shot to pieces.

[righthook]

It's a matter of concrete fact that mayweather generates more ppv buys than pacqiauo. Do you think that when Alan sugar is doing a deal he says "well we will both earn a lot of money so we'll just split everything 50/50?". Not if he brings more money to the table!

mayweather may have generated more ppvs in america, but pac generates allot of ppv money him self, and just my oppinion but i would say more people would rather watch a pacman fight than a mayweatehr fight as there much more exciting. and by the way this is from some1 who thinks mayweather is the best boxer around. my point i was making is that i wouldnt expect any1 not to want the lions share of a deal if they deserve/ need the money but there both multi millionaires, and this fight would generate more money than they could ever need.

let me give a little example to you trojans44 if some one on here said this is a good debate between us two.

there willing to pay us 100 billion each to go at it for the next few minutes would you turn round and say well no i want 120 billion and give him 80 billion coz i think i make better points. no you wouldnt we would both happily take it coz lets be honest whats the difference in 120 billion and 80 billion we both couldnt spend it, same as them two 50 million is more than enough for both men not to mention the fact it shows who is the best pound for pound, and also a chance to give back to the fans and the sport

its pure greed anyway you look at it mate

[greenyox3]

Shame if this fight doesn't happen, but I'm past the point of giving a sh1t.

I just hope they don't expect to be remembered as ATG's, because ATG's fight the best of their era. I certainly won't regard them as such.

[dondada]

a simple solution is 40/40 and the winner gets the other 20

Right on.

[Andypittcov]

a simple solution is 40/40 and the winner gets the other 20

Right on.

Mayweather isn't willing to accept 50% so there's no chance he's going to take 40 while gambling on 20. I know you'll say but he thinks he's going to win easily but he's also smart enough to know that anything can happen, ie he could slip and get injured and lose.

[righthook]

It's a matter of concrete fact that mayweather generates more ppv buys than pacqiauo. Do you think that when Alan sugar is doing a deal he says "well we will both earn a lot of money so we'll just split everything 50/50?". Not if he brings more money to the table!

here mate something that makes that concrete fact look stupid.

http://www.boxingnews24.com i dont know how to send links but if you go on this its a few stories down.

By John F. McKenna (McJack): World Boxing Organization (WBO) welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38 KO’s) has topped WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26 KO’s) in Pay Per View (PPV) buys for his last three fights. In addition Pacquiao’s live gate attendance far exceeds Mayweather during the same time span.


Manny’s last fight in November against Juan Manuel Marquez drew 1.41 million PPV buys, while Floyd’s fight last September against Victor Ortiz drew 1.25 PPV buys.
Floyd’s fight with Marquez in 2009 drew 1 million PPV buys.
Pacquiao’s fight with Antonio Margarito in 2010 drew 1.5 million PPV buys, while Mayweather’s fight Shane Mosley drew 1.4 million PPV buys. Despite Mosley being perceived as a shot fighter, Pacquiao drew 1.3 million PPV buys in their May 2011 fight.

In total Pacquiao’s last three fights have drawn 3.86 million PPV buys, while Mayweather’s last three fights have pulled in 3.65 million PPV buys. In summation Pacquiao drew in 210,000 more PPV buys than Mayweather did. When you take into account the higher number of PPV buys that Pacquiao’s fights have drawn it translates into a cool $10,000,000 in cash.

It is true that the Floyd Mayweather – Oscar De La Hoya fight in May 2007 drew a record 2.4 million PPV hits. Many boxing observers largely attribute the high PPV numbers in that fight to the extreme popularity of the Golden Boy, Oscar De La Hoya and the fact that it was held on the Cinco De Mayo holiday.

But Pacquiao’s recent higher PPV numbers only tell part of the story. In the same three fights Pacquiao sold out the venues, while Mayweather’s last three fights were not sold out. In addition, when Manny Pacquiao fights at the MGM Grand Arena in Las Vegas a significantly higher number of high rollers from Asia fly into Vegas for his fights. The economic impact in Las Vegas for a Pacquiao fight far outstrips that of any other fighter.

In a study by CSE, an integrated sports and marketing firm, Pacquiao is one of only two boxers in the 2012 Power Rankings of the most powerful athletes in the world. Manny is ranked at number 28. Mayweather is ranked 49th in the same study. Both on and off field accomplishments are taken into account in the rankings. Endorsements and media presence figure heavily in the rankings.

Mayweather’s assertion that he deserves a bigger piece of the pie if and when he ever fights Pacquiao is absurd, notwithstanding Manny’s statement a couple of months ago that he was willing to take a smaller cut. Of course Floyd now seizes Pacquiao’s own words and uses them against him as a further excuse not to fight him.

concrete more like sponge

[yiddo14]

The Oscar PPV numbers were mainly down to Oscar's popularity. Didn't Oscar take more money than Floyd that night?

Floyd is a great talent obviously but the man is a cock. To be honest I wouldn't be bothered in the slightest if he simply retired. Manny too. Anyone who thinks they are bigger than the sport are seriously deluded.

All this bullshit he bangs on about such as 'without Floyd Mayweather, the sport of Boxing dies' is ridiculous! He isn't even the biggest boxing star of the past decade let alone of all time.

It's extremely tedious.

[Deserter]

It's a matter of concrete fact that mayweather generates more ppv buys than pacqiauo. Do you think that when Alan sugar is doing a deal he says "well we will both earn a lot of money so we'll just split everything 50/50?". Not if he brings more money to the table!

here mate something that makes that concrete fact look stupid.

http://www.boxingnews24.com i dont know how to send links but if you go on this its a few stories down.

By John F. McKenna (McJack): World Boxing Organization (WBO) welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38 KO’s) has topped WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26 KO’s) in Pay Per View (PPV) buys for his last three fights. In addition Pacquiao’s live gate attendance far exceeds Mayweather during the same time span.


Manny’s last fight in November against Juan Manuel Marquez drew 1.41 million PPV buys, while Floyd’s fight last September against Victor Ortiz drew 1.25 PPV buys.
Floyd’s fight with Marquez in 2009 drew 1 million PPV buys.
Pacquiao’s fight with Antonio Margarito in 2010 drew 1.5 million PPV buys, while Mayweather’s fight Shane Mosley drew 1.4 million PPV buys. Despite Mosley being perceived as a shot fighter, Pacquiao drew 1.3 million PPV buys in their May 2011 fight.

In total Pacquiao’s last three fights have drawn 3.86 million PPV buys, while Mayweather’s last three fights have pulled in 3.65 million PPV buys. In summation Pacquiao drew in 210,000 more PPV buys than Mayweather did. When you take into account the higher number of PPV buys that Pacquiao’s fights have drawn it translates into a cool $10,000,000 in cash.

It is true that the Floyd Mayweather – Oscar De La Hoya fight in May 2007 drew a record 2.4 million PPV hits. Many boxing observers largely attribute the high PPV numbers in that fight to the extreme popularity of the Golden Boy, Oscar De La Hoya and the fact that it was held on the Cinco De Mayo holiday.

But Pacquiao’s recent higher PPV numbers only tell part of the story. In the same three fights Pacquiao sold out the venues, while Mayweather’s last three fights were not sold out. In addition, when Manny Pacquiao fights at the MGM Grand Arena in Las Vegas a significantly higher number of high rollers from Asia fly into Vegas for his fights. The economic impact in Las Vegas for a Pacquiao fight far outstrips that of any other fighter.

In a study by CSE, an integrated sports and marketing firm, Pacquiao is one of only two boxers in the 2012 Power Rankings of the most powerful athletes in the world. Manny is ranked at number 28. Mayweather is ranked 49th in the same study. Both on and off field accomplishments are taken into account in the rankings. Endorsements and media presence figure heavily in the rankings.

Mayweather’s assertion that he deserves a bigger piece of the pie if and when he ever fights Pacquiao is absurd, notwithstanding Manny’s statement a couple of months ago that he was willing to take a smaller cut. Of course Floyd now seizes Pacquiao’s own words and uses them against him as a further excuse not to fight him.

concrete more like sponge

Owned!

[Trojans44]

Not really. Mayweather fights are charged at a significantly higher rate. This has two effects:
1. Less people buy it because its more expensive (giving Pacqiauo a misleading edge in PPV numbers)
2. The overall revenue generated is higher.

Mayweather V Ortiz was 3rd or 4th highest grossing non-hw fight of all time, generating much more than Pacqiauo - Marquez, which was a blue chip fight dont forget.

http://digitaljournal.com/article/313547

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/71 ... llion-buys

Mayweather is self managed and when acting in that capacity has every right to negotiate the best deal possible for himself, particularly when it is clear he brings more revenue to the table than Pacqiauo. For all the criticism, Mayweather gave up all sorts of ground to De La Hoya because he was the draw.

In a negotiating sense its also relevant to note that a chunk of Pacqiauo's money goes to GBP, Top Rank and Freddie Roach. I think even Ariza is on a percentage which is ridicoulous for a ten a penny conditioning coach. Mayweather doesnt have these overheads so he's pocketing huge sums whether or not he fights Pacqiauo. Pacqiauo is the one who'll be getting a significant pay bump with this fight, not Mayweather. Like I said, Mayweather will not earn much more from this fight than any other.

[Deserter]

Not really. Mayweather fights are charged at a significantly higher rate. This has two effects:
1. Less people buy it because its more expensive (giving Pacqiauo a misleading edge in PPV numbers)
2. The overall revenue generated is higher.

Mayweather V Ortiz was 3rd or 4th highest grossing non-hw fight of all time, generating much more than Pacqiauo - Marquez, which was a blue chip fight dont forget.

http://digitaljournal.com/article/313547

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/71 ... llion-buys

Mayweather is self managed and when acting in that capacity has every right to negotiate the best deal possible for himself, particularly when it is clear he brings more revenue to the table than Pacqiauo. For all the criticism, Mayweather gave up all sorts of ground to De La Hoya because he was the draw.

In a negotiating sense its also relevant to note that a chunk of Pacqiauo's money goes to GBP, Top Rank and Freddie Roach. I think even Ariza is on a percentage which is ridicoulous for a ten a penny conditioning coach. Mayweather doesnt have these overheads so he's pocketing huge sums whether or not he fights Pacqiauo. Pacqiauo is the one who'll be getting a significant pay bump with this fight, not Mayweather. Like I said, Mayweather will not earn much more from this fight than any other.

Poor form. You clearly focused on volume, stating:

"It's a matter of concrete fact that mayweather generates more ppv buys than pacqiauo."

You're now trying to shift the goalposts rather than acknowledge you were incorrect and any valid points you make are undermined by this approach

[yiddo14]

Why are people obsessed with their favoured fighters pay packet? What does it matter to you if Mayweather/Manny earns 25m or 35m?

Either way it's still a shitload of dough so I suspect your hero won't be claiming benefits anytime soon. Basically it's this cocks greed that prevents us from seeing a fight we should have seen two years ago!

I'm past the point of caring if takes place. I suspect many fans are.

[righthook]

Not really. Mayweather fights are charged at a significantly higher rate. This has two effects:
1. Less people buy it because its more expensive (giving Pacqiauo a misleading edge in PPV numbers)
2. The overall revenue generated is higher.

Mayweather V Ortiz was 3rd or 4th highest grossing non-hw fight of all time, generating much more than Pacqiauo - Marquez, which was a blue chip fight dont forget.

http://digitaljournal.com/article/313547

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/71 ... llion-buys

Mayweather is self managed and when acting in that capacity has every right to negotiate the best deal possible for himself, particularly when it is clear he brings more revenue to the table than Pacqiauo. For all the criticism, Mayweather gave up all sorts of ground to De La Hoya because he was the draw.



In a negotiating sense its also relevant to note that a chunk of Pacqiauo's money goes to GBP, Top Rank and Freddie Roach. I think even Ariza is on a percentage which is ridicoulous for a ten a penny conditioning coach. Mayweather doesnt have these overheads so he's pocketing huge sums whether or not he fights Pacqiauo. Pacqiauo is the one who'll be getting a significant pay bump with this fight, not Mayweather. Like I said, Mayweather will not earn much more from this fight than any other.

poor poor poor responce

you said and i quote mayweather generates more ppv buys than pacqiauo.

now its, well his ppv is more expensive.

just put your hands up and say, i acted all smug like i knew something about the matter, but you called my bluff and clearly i dont.

call it a learning experience mate. 1-0 right hook

oh and by the way another quote from you
Mayweather will not earn much more from this fight than any other.

again more nonsense out your mouth. it will be his biggest ever pay day by some distance and i dont think any1 other than you would argue that

[Quixall]

This is classic !!

You always know when a Mayweather thread is started .....................It will end in a war of words

[ThereByTheGrace]

This entire debacle is what is good and bad about boxing.

The fight everyone wants to see wont happen because both are afraid to lose.

For Shame!!!

[jaywillo1983]

It's a matter of concrete fact that mayweather generates more ppv buys than pacqiauo. Do you think that when Alan sugar is doing a deal he says "well we will both earn a lot of money so we'll just split everything 50/50?". Not if he brings more money to the table!

mayweather may have generated more ppvs in america, but pac generates allot of ppv money him self, and just my oppinion but i would say more people would rather watch a pacman fight than a mayweatehr fight as there much more exciting. and by the way this is from some1 who thinks mayweather is the best boxer around. my point i was making is that i wouldnt expect any1 not to want the lions share of a deal if they deserve/ need the money but there both multi millionaires, and this fight would generate more money than they could ever need.

let me give a little example to you trojans44 if some one on here said this is a good debate between us two.

there willing to pay us 100 billion each to go at it for the next few minutes would you turn round and say well no i want 120 billion and give him 80 billion coz i think i make better points. no you wouldnt we would both happily take it coz lets be honest whats the difference in 120 billion and 80 billion we both couldnt spend it, same as them two 50 million is more than enough for both men not to mention the fact it shows who is the best pound for pound, and also a chance to give back to the fans and the sport

its pure greed anyway you look at it mate

I think you have been watching a different manny pacquiao than i have if you think his fights are exciting. It has certainly been a while since he put in a world class and exciting performance. Where as mayweather peformances do seem to be of world class standard in each fight, in fact he seems to look better and better in each fight, and no body can deny the fact that he has also seemed to have become the agressor a hell of a lot more in recent fights.

As for the money side of the fight, love it or hate it, we have to accept the fact, that mayweather does not fight for any reason other than for money. He openly admits it. So i think we are all very naive in thinking that he would ever accept 50/50, because that will just never happen. However i do think it would make boxing a more appealing sport if not just this fight, but all major fights are 40-40 with 20 going to the winner, or if you won by ko maybe even more of the purse, but if you only won by split decision maybe 55-45. Basically performance related pay cheques. Ideas like this would never happen, because just like football agents have become overly greedy, boxing promoters/managers are also in that same category.