AL brown vs Ruben Olivares.... who would win?...

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 17 Aug 2005, 06:00

These two fighters can lay claim to perhaps being the best two 118 fighters of all time. But who would win if they had fought eachother in their primes?......

barry · Post by **barry** » 17 Aug 2005, 11:59

Olivares is one of my all-time favorites, but Brown had the height and boxing ability to out box Olivares over 15 rounds, which considering that Brown never lost by KO, or TKO...I'd guess that Brown would win on points.

tiredoldngrey · Post by **tiredoldngrey** » 17 Aug 2005, 13:32

Good fight choice... I've never seen Brown fight. I've read that he was tall had very good punching ability and, judging by the years that he fought, I would assume that he knew how to use his advantages and could fight well inside. I am more familiar, obviously, with Olivares, having seen him quite a few times. At 118 I don' think he did as much on the party circuit as he later did, and certainly he wasn't dissipated; in fact he was like a leopard the night he won the title. I have often watched his fight against Arguello and am of the opinion that he had Alexis beat when he decided to duck into that left hook then the right uppercut. ... You know I started out thinking Olivares would win but I really can't see it. Brown had all those fights and was never stopped, and I'm going to take a leap and assume, again, based on the eras in which they fought, that Brown was better than Arguello, or, at least, more agile and mobile in the ring. Points win or late tko for Brown

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 17 Aug 2005, 15:21

Brown was a master boxer with a good punch but could he take the body punches of Olivares?... I see it being a very close fight... Olivares was pretty phenomenal at Bantam, like a tiny Duran only perhaps with more one punch power. Brown dropped a decision in '31 to Newsboy Brown who had a simular windmil style to Olivares so perhaps he was vulnerble to fighters that could get inside and go for his body and crowd him like Olivares would certainly do.

meade95 · Post by **meade95** » 17 Aug 2005, 15:41

Great fight - I'd go with Olivares in a very close Dec - Work rate and power tilts the fight to Olivares down the stretch -

dnahar32 · Post by **dnahar32** » 17 Aug 2005, 15:56

I think Olivares at his best would beat Panama Al Brown. While Brown was freakishly tall for a bantamweight, his body was quite gaunt to make 118 pounds. Facing the relentless body attack of Olivares, I think he would be outworked and lose a decision or via late KO.