Record

[kells]

If the board doesn't sanction a fight shouldn't it b a nc on ur record?

[John]

If the board doesn't sanction a fight shouldn't it b a nc on ur record?

No, if the Board doesn't sanction a fight it doesn't get put in full stop.

[kells]

They hav mine

[John]

Don't think so, all our British shows are confirmed by official reports from the Board.

[kells]

Go look at my record and see the unsanctioned sign rite bye it plus i got a 300 pound fine because the board didn't sanction it!

[bripez]

I don't know about the question, but was that a kind of Cyprus Prizefighter tournament ?

Sounds interesting - how did that come about ?

[John]

That fight wasn't in the UK so it's not up to the Board to sanctioned it or not, they can however sanction you as a license holder for taking it without their permission.

[kells]

Yer pal just same set up as prizefighter just not aswel paid. So ok John but whatim asking is if they said they wnt sanction it and my licence is wiv them shouldn't in the boards eyes that bout not count on my record?

[John]

No because it didn't happen under the Board's jurisdiction, they can only sanction or nor sanction fights in the UK. Suppose a Nigerian boxer fought against you on a Board show here and lost. Then the Nigerian commission phoned up and said sorry that fight wasn't sanctioned, do you think the Board would say fair enough and take it off your record ?

[kells]

So then my fight shouldn't be down as non sanctioned then as u just said the board can only do that to fights in this country

[John]

Shows are sanctioned or not sanctioned by the commission(s) in the country where they take place. Ie. shows in the UK are sanctioned or not sanctioned by the BBBofC, shows in Germany are sanctioned or not sanctioned by the BDB etc. There was no official commission overseeing the show in Cyprus therefore it is unsanctioned.

[kells]

cheers john

[kells]

i get wot ur sayin so just a question, why do the board still reconise a fight on ur record wen ther sayin u wer in a country wiv no commision so we wont allow it as with out a commision we want no part of it, yet they still let it go on ur record

[Wake up call]

Just a quick question John because this has happened last year.

Say for example you have a kid who boxes on the unlicensed/non board/whatever you want to call it circuit. Now understandably his fights are not recorded on Boxrec (and rightly so).

However, he goes abroad and boxes on a foreign show - should that fight be on Boxrec?

[kells]

That's how I was thinking

[damianhucker1]

Just a quick question John because this has happened last year.

Say for example you have a kid who boxes on the unlicensed/non board/whatever you want to call it circuit. Now understandably his fights are not recorded on Boxrec (and rightly so).

However, he goes abroad and boxes on a foreign show - should that fight be on Boxrec?

Something ive thought about recently too .

It must count as otherwise Danny williams wouldnt have added to his record as BBBoC had refused to renew his license

[JDC]

This means that a fight in the UK, which had officially trained referees and two pro licensed fighters, would not be recorded if a sanctioning fee wasn't paid. But a gym fight (in a country of no recognised sanctioning bodies jurisdiction) could be recorded.

I can understand why the BBBofC are your deciding body in the UK. For the others; How do you decide on whether a fight is worthy of inclusion or not?

[John]

Just a quick question John because this has happened last year.

Say for example you have a kid who boxes on the unlicensed/non board/whatever you want to call it circuit. Now understandably his fights are not recorded on Boxrec (and rightly so).

However, he goes abroad and boxes on a foreign show - should that fight be on Boxrec?

The status of a boxer in country A or with Commission A does not affect his status in country B or with Commission B. However some commissions do respect others commissions' licenses and suspensions. For example Wayne McCullough lost his British license but he was able to continue boxing in the USA. Joe Mesi lost his license in Nevada but was able to get one Louisiana, Arkansas, Michigan, West Virginia and Rhode Island.

[kells]

If the board don't sanction it or recognise the country as holding in ther eyes a professional licenced boxing show then they shouldn't included it on ur record as they wouldn't put unlicensed fights ud had on your record no matter were ud had them

[JDC]

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[John]

If the board don't sanction it or recognise the country as holding in ther eyes a professional licenced boxing show then they shouldn't included it on ur record as they wouldn't put unlicensed fights ud had on your record no matter were ud had them

once again, if the Nigerians told the Board that they didn't recognise any British shows with Nigerian boxers on as being sanctioned do you think the Board would say fair enough old cock we will delete them ?

[kells]

Ok then I had another 3 fights wen I was in Cyprus now the board dNt recognise ther fights but il hav em on my record please 3 wins 3 knock outs.....point I'm making is I'm sure the country ur licensed to has the power to say wot they class as a contest and Woy they don't and if they dnt as one of ther boxers the record they shud keep of u is the fights they sanction. I'm sure Nigeria cud make a rule if they wanted that any fights boxed in England under are licence will go down as a nc!! By what ur sayin John every fight I hav outside of the uk shud go on my record!!!

[John]

The status of a boxer in country A or with Commission A does not affect his status in country B or with Commission B. However some commissions do respect others commissions' licenses and suspensions. For example Wayne McCullough lost his British license but he was able to continue boxing in the USA. Joe Mesi lost his license in Nevada but was able to get one Louisiana, Arkansas, Michigan, West Virginia and Rhode Island.

[kells]

R u on the board??

[John]

R u on the board??

No