2012 National Silver Gloves Dates,Sites & Results

[DCAmateurBoxing]

Yes that is the truth. Allows you to see how you do against the best of the best. Also meet a lot of good people. Do you have any results that you can share? Most interested in the bouts I mentioned.

[415BOXING]

Navarro dec. Davis,close bout,Davis has speed which gave Navarro some problems but Navarro is really cool and calm,I thought Davis eeked it out but Navarro got the nod

[415BOXING]

Strode vs White was a war!Both are excellent fighters who weren't afraid to let their hands go,very close fight,Strode deservingly got the nod

[415BOXING]

Hernandez vs Williams to me started as though Williams might derail Hernandezs' plan of tying Raushee Warrens record,but Hernandez doesn't really do anything special but he knows how to win,and as the fight wore on,he pulled away but not by much,Hernandez wins his 6th title

[415BOXING]

Machado vs Zavala was a battle,I was very impressed with Machado in his semifinal bout,he reminds me of a Yuriorkis Gamboa clone,hes strong,fast and has cat like reflexes,his only problem is he tries to take you out with every punch.Zavala made Machado miss alot and pay for those mistakes but Machado landed the bigger punches and got the decision

[415BOXING]

Vargas vs Villa was a chess match as you had Vargas(orthodox) against Villa(southpaw).Villa tried to establish his pace of accurate counter punching,but Vargas started to get really aggressive and took Villa out of his game plan a bit.Vargas landed the heavier shots as Villa tried to reestablish his tempo.Vargas got the decision in a close bout

[415BOXING]

Also,my boxer,6'2 1/2" Suray Mahmutovic(415 BC,San Francisco,Region 8) lost a very very close decision to 4 time National Champion Jose Burgos(Johnson City,Tennessee,Region 6) in the 12/13 yr old 147lb division.Suray only has 13 fights,but I'm very proud of how he performed.He will win a National in the future.

[DCAmateurBoxing]

415 thanks for the input. Sounds like I was actually watching these and glad to know that those bouts were what I thought they were going to be. Wow, sounds like some great ones. Hopefully, I'll be able to go next year. Looking forward to watching these seniors at the JOs (some boxed at JOs last year and came back for last year of Silvers. That really is invaluable).

Just in case anyone is curious. Here is a write up I did of the winningest boxers in National Silver Gloves History as Nico does join Raushee as the only boxers in the history (est. 1968) of the tournament to win 6 times:

http://dcboxing.blogspot.com/2011/01/mo ... ilver.html
If anyone has any video of these bouts, please let me know. I'd love to see them.

[scallum]

Also,my boxer,6'2 1/2" Suray Mahmutovic(415 BC,San Francisco,Region 8) lost a very very close decision to 4 time National Champion Jose Burgos(Johnson City,Tennessee,Region 6) in the 12/13 yr old 147lb division.Suray only has 13 fights,but I'm very proud of how he performed.He will win a National in the future.

Good job wit Suray he will have his time

[mike222]

I have just had my eyes tested and have a x3 magnifying glass and still I cant read the bout sheets.

[burnscs]

Here are the winners!!!

[mike222]

Thanks-much appreciated

[pitbull96]

Hey I have the 14-15 139 lb final on tape (Nate Burkhalter vs Martin Urias), personally I thought that the judges could have given it to Nate Burkhalter but take a look at it and tell me what you think, just wanted an unbiased opinion. . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6-he7ohzQ0

[boxingcoach80]

Close fight I give it to red corner looked like the better boxer blue corner was more aggressive but it looked sloppy

[boxmel]

Hey I have the 14-15 139 lb final on tape (Nate Burkhalter vs Martin Urias), personally I thought that the judges could have given it to Nate Burkhalter but take a look at it and tell me what you think, just wanted an unbiased opinion. . .

Please remember that the video only shows one point of view - NOT that of all 5 judges - therefore not an accurate depiction of the bout as seen by the judges.

[Metro Boxing 2]

Belive I met you Mel, but did not realize it to afterwards. Thanks for all that you do for amatuer boxing. Great tournament!!

Nice meeting you 415, Suray looked great. He beat our 147 on Thursday. I am sure you will be back.

[DCAmateurBoxing]

Hey I have the 14-15 139 lb final on tape (Nate Burkhalter vs Martin Urias), personally I thought that the judges could have given it to Nate Burkhalter but take a look at it and tell me what you think, just wanted an unbiased opinion. . .

Please remember that the video only shows one point of view - NOT that of all 5 judges - therefore not an accurate depiction of the bout as seen by the judges.

And it's all about scoring blows. Sometimes "sloppy" scores more and "better [looking] boxers" don't score anything.

[DCAmateurBoxing]

Mel, when they give all of you judges "hat cameras" you won't be able to say that anymore. we'll see it all. 8)

[boxmel]

And it's all about scoring blows. Sometimes "sloppy" scores more and "better [looking] boxers" don't score anything.

Ummm - as far as I know, "sloppy" and "better looking boxers" are NOT part of the scoring criteria. D

Mel, when they give all of you judges "hat cameras" you won't be able to say that anymore. we'll see it all. 8)

I am NOT going to respond to the above.

[DCAmateurBoxing]

And it's all about scoring blows. Sometimes "sloppy" scores more and "better [looking] boxers" don't score anything.

Ummm - as far as I know, "sloppy" and "better looking boxers" are NOT part of the scoring criteria. D

That is what I was saying. I've seen boxers that have great form and flash but don't score points according to the criteria. I've also seen boxers that do everything wrong, technically speaking - but it works for them and they score points. But many would say they look sloppy. I was giving the same caveat about "judging" who should have won a bout. We are on the same page.

Now about the cameras, it wasn't too long ago that instant replay was laughed at too. The NFL now has umpire cams too. As the cost of using tech goes down, don't be surprised if we add more video to amateur boxing at least for training purposes to improve judging. Could you imagine being able to see from a judges perspective and also be able to see when they pressed the button for a boxer? That would really help judging get more consistent and accurate. A guy can dream, can't he?

[boxmel]

We are on the same page

Yes, we are!

don't be surprised if we add more video to amateur boxing at least for training purposes to improve judging.

Back when I was a tech, we used to show videos of bouts at the US Championships prior to the tournament so judges would get familiar with the scoring keypad. Don't think that's been done in a long time.

Could you imagine being able to see from a judges perspective and also be able to see when they pressed the button for a boxer? That would really help judging get more consistent and accurate. A guy can dream, can't he?

You would have to have a camera with each judge that would, somehow, show WHAT the judge saw and when he or she pushed the button - and 5 people watching to see when a judge pushed the button and some way to see what the judge saw and when the button was pushed. I honestly don't see that happening - but, yes, you can dream. The biggest advice I can give is that the boxers must stay out of the corners and off the ropes and move in the middle of the ring - that's the best way for three judges to see scoring punches land.

[Dennis]

Kullen - How about a camera that moves with the movement of the judges eyes. When they fall asleep (close their eyes for more than a second) the camera too will go dark. When the judge looks down, same thing. When the judge turns to look at something in the crowd or another ring, the camera would too. We would actually see what the judge is seeing!

Yes, technology is moving fast, unfortunately amateur boxing does not keep up with it.

[DCAmateurBoxing]

Kullen - How about a camera that moves with the movement of the judges eyes. When they fall asleep (close their eyes for more than a second) the camera too will go dark. When the judge looks down, same thing. When the judge turns to look at something in the crowd or another ring, the camera would too. We would actually see what the judge is seeing!

Yes, technology is moving fast, unfortunately amateur boxing does not keep up with it.

hahahaha. That's why they wouldn't want it. Just a bunch if video of the inside of eyelids interspersed with boxing. lol.

[boxmel]

hahahaha. That's why they wouldn't want it. Just a bunch if video of the inside of eyelids interspersed with boxing. lol.

Now, now, guys! I only know of one judge who falls asleep during bouts and he only works local shows.

[rayjquintana]

How about on the phone or a 17 to 4 in the opening round or texting