Calzaghe agasint ...... ahem ...... Evans Ashira

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 19 Aug 2005, 09:36

Whenever you think it can't get worse no more Warren puls another one.

Why don't they just pick up someone from underneath a Cardiff bridge, give him a cup of watery soup, and then put him in front of little haymaker Joe? In effect this would be the same, and they spare the cash for Ashira's plane ticket.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 19 Aug 2005, 09:40

Well no real surprises, what we all expected.

Depends how much Ashira has left after the Masoe loss, he is physically strong and will go for the body. Can he drag Calzaghe into the trenches? Time will tell.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Aug 2005, 09:42

To be honest, this is nothing more than a glorified sparring session, for Joe to tune up. However as Mr McNeilly said, as a title bout, it stinks.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 19 Aug 2005, 09:46

I´ll never understand you guys. You criticize Calzaghe whatever he does and hype Harrison whenever he beats a clubfighter, truckdriver or human punching-ball.....

Calzaghe will beat Lacy and prove that he is an all-time-great in this division.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 19 Aug 2005, 09:53

From the cracking allegedly.tv:

"WBO World Super-Middleweight Champion Joe Calzaghe faces a tricky defence of his title against Evans Ashira on Saturday 10 September at the Cardiff International Arena.

The unbeaten Welshman will make a record 17th title defence against the Denmark-based Kenyan knowing that victory is crucial if he is to face rival IBF Champ Jeff Lacy on November 5.

Ashira, who now fights out of Miami, has caused upsets in the past and could wreck Calzaghe's plans of unification.

In his last fight he defeated the previously unbeaten Quentin Smith and two years ago stopped Jerry Elliot - who neither Brian Magee or Howard Eastman, both big punchers, could KO - in nine rounds to underline his danger.

He is ranked #10 in the WBO with only one loss in 25 fights and has held IBF and WBA Intercontinental Middleweight titles."

Told you exactly how they'd try and sell it. However, I did neglect to mention that Evans has been the IBF and WBA Hotelintercontinental champion. At middle. Shame on me.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 19 Aug 2005, 10:18

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:From the cracking allegedly.tv:

"WBO World Super-Middleweight Champion Joe Calzaghe faces a tricky defence of his title against Evans Ashira on Saturday 10 September at the Cardiff International Arena.

The unbeaten Welshman will make a record 17th title defence against the Denmark-based Kenyan knowing that victory is crucial if he is to face rival IBF Champ Jeff Lacy on November 5.

Ashira, who now fights out of Miami, has caused upsets in the past and could wreck Calzaghe's plans of unification.

In his last fight he defeated the previously unbeaten Quentin Smith and two years ago stopped Jerry Elliot - who neither Brian Magee or Howard Eastman, both big punchers, could KO - in nine rounds to underline his danger.

He is ranked #10 in the WBO with only one loss in 25 fights and has held IBF and WBA Intercontinental Middleweight titles."

Told you exactly how they'd try and sell it. However, I did neglect to mention that Evans has been the IBF and WBA Hotelintercontinental champion. At middle. Shame on me.

Where´s your problem? He fights the #10 for a free mandatory. That´s fornicating normal. Other champs do this as well. It´s better than staying inactive.....

black panther · Post by **black panther** » 19 Aug 2005, 10:44

Although ive no doubt that calzaghe will do a job on ashira i think u lot need to give ashira a bit more credit... i saw his fight against elliot on eurosport and he was impressive ... a nice hit and move boxer with a bit of a dig. He really should have beaten masoe but apparently got away from the game plan and stood right in front of him. Yes he is a middleweight but for me a genuine world class middleweight and thats better than say some of marcus beyer's title opponents. Yoshira niguara? Andre thysse? And hes got omar sheika next!

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 19 Aug 2005, 10:55

Dreadful fight, how can he be ranked no 10 when he never had a fight at that weight.

boxingchat · Post by **boxingchat** » 19 Aug 2005, 11:01

Who really cares? If he wins he get's Lacy on 5th November and the no one can moan, surely?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Aug 2005, 11:16

I have no problem with Calzaghe having a tune up, and as you say, if he fights Lacy, then all well and good. However, surely you would concede that many of us are skeptical about Calzaghe actually taking lacy on, given his recent history.

My main problem is billing this as a world title bout. Ashira is no more a SM contender than I am Widow Twankie, he's just been sparked by a fringe contender at MW, and yet he's a top #10 WBO super middleweight?

This is precisely why the WBO gets so much criticism.

stepper · Post by **stepper** » 19 Aug 2005, 11:32

Is it time to open a book on the exact injury Joe will sustain in this fight rendering him unable to fight Lacy?
(evens) Hand (2/1) Ribs (3/1) Cut (4/1) Knee or Ankle (5/1) The rest including, Flu, Food Poisioning, Plague and Acts Of God.
Get betting.

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 19 Aug 2005, 11:44

Your forgetting domestic problems.

J · Post by J » 19 Aug 2005, 11:45

what he ran out of bleach, thats a bit far fetched.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 19 Aug 2005, 11:46

I'll put my house on hand.

Yay, a new house for me!

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 19 Aug 2005, 11:51

black panther wrote:Although ive no doubt that calzaghe will do a job on ashira i think u lot need to give ashira a bit more credit... i saw his fight against elliot on eurosport and he was impressive ... a nice hit and move boxer with a bit of a dig. He really should have beaten masoe but apparently got away from the game plan and stood right in front of him. Yes he is a middleweight but for me a genuine world class middleweight and thats better than say some of marcus beyer's title opponents. Yoshira niguara? Andre thysse? And hes got omar sheika next!

You're talking sh!te. Beyer's few titlefights included Danny Green and Eric Lucas.

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 19 Aug 2005, 11:56

After the Mitchell fight I thought he career might go in the right direction.
No chance of that. Why not have a non title warm up fight.

Has anyone else noticed those 2 female boxers advert by universum.
I looked on the Regina Halmich website(Bored at work) she got some topless pictures of herself.

I thought the women game wanted to be taken serious!

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 19 Aug 2005, 11:59

She was in german Playboy a couple of years ago. She is still one most popular "german" boxers, only the Klitschkos haver better TV ratings than her.

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 19 Aug 2005, 12:01

leforge wrote:After the Mitchell fight I thought he career might go in the right direction.
No chance of that. Why not have a non title warm up fight.

Has anyone else noticed those 2 female boxers advert by universum.
I looked on the Regina Halmich website(Bored at work) she got some topless pictures of herself.
I thought the women game wanted to be taken serious!

She did the German version of Playboy. Bubi may know more about it.

8)

A fit, somewhat fiesty fighting frau.

BTW, I'll have a tenner on 'hands' and a fiver on the back going again.

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 19 Aug 2005, 12:03

Freiheit wrote:She was in german Playboy a couple of years ago. She is still one most popular "german" boxers, only the Klitschkos haver better TV ratings than her.

Yeah, I've noticed quite a few times they have did the open-mic audio interview with her after a big fight.

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 19 Aug 2005, 12:04

Yes not the usual image of female boxers!

Female boxing must be popular in Germany.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 19 Aug 2005, 12:05

Manos de Oro wrote:
leforge wrote:After the Mitchell fight I thought he career might go in the right direction.
No chance of that. Why not have a non title warm up fight.

Has anyone else noticed those 2 female boxers advert by universum.
I looked on the Regina Halmich website(Bored at work) she got some topless pictures of herself.
I thought the women game wanted to be taken serious!
She did the German version of Playboy. Bubi may know more about it. 8)

A fit, somewhat fiesty fighting frau.

BTW, I'll have a tenner on 'hands' and a fiver on the back going again.

I broke my back. My back is broken.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 19 Aug 2005, 12:08

Manos de Oro wrote:
Freiheit wrote:She was in german Playboy a couple of years ago. She is still one most popular "german" boxers, only the Klitschkos haver better TV ratings than her.
Yeah, I've noticed quite a few times they have did the open-mic audio interview with her after a big fight.

Her fights get around 7 mill viewers while the Klitschkos get 9. Most other gets 3½-4mill.

black panther · Post by **black panther** » 19 Aug 2005, 12:36

pundit - your talking sh!te

I not saying beyer hasnt fought sum good names but what im saying is ashira is better than some of beyer's opponents as champ.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 19 Aug 2005, 15:39

Ashira isn't that bad but stepping up into a new division and getting a shot at a title who's owners wish to be taken seriously is the piss take part. For his part Ashira is a strong little fellow with a good body attack, he basically wore out Elliott with body punches early and Elliott collapsed around 8. In his fight with Masoe he stood straight in front of the New Zealander and paid the penalty. He wasn't sparked clean out by Masoe but caught with a good shot at the end of the first and never properly recovered.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 19 Aug 2005, 18:55

Good heavens it's Evans!

Frankie's really pushed the boat out with this one, obviously this Kenyan based Dane is a dangerous and tricky customer, who could well upset Joe's plans to meet Lacy in November at........errr where was it again?

Still, Ashira will no doubt be buoyed up by the Welsh crowd cheering him on with "Bread of Evan"