Prime Joe Louis vs. Rocky Marciano

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Re: Prime Joe Louis vs. Rocky Marciano

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You're wrong from the ground up.

VELOCITY is the reason Louis punched with more authority when in his prime, and that is true of Foreman as well.

Louis hitting harder because he was fatter, and in spite of his diminished handspeed, is a bone-headed argument.
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Re: Prime Joe Louis vs. Rocky Marciano

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Goodnight, Irene wrote:You're wrong from the ground up.

VELOCITY is the reason Louis punched with more authority when in his prime, and that is true of Foreman as well.

Louis hitting harder because he was fatter, and in spite of his diminished handspeed, is a bone-headed argument.

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Yes, velocity ALONG WITH the weight.

For instance, if "weight" isn't a factor, why then are their respective weight divisions in boxing?

If weight isn't a factor, why then did Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) implement weight divisions back in 2001?


By the way, even in the later stages of Joes career, he was by NO means fat. He was 6 foot 2. His weigh in at the weigh ins was 211 to 213 pounds. That is by NO means fat.
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Re: Prime Joe Louis vs. Rocky Marciano

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Im getting dumber taking up such an agenda-driven debate.
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Re: Prime Joe Louis vs. Rocky Marciano

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NYDominican wrote:
But, Joe was carrying more weight. It was proper weight. So, Joe had more punching power compared to his fights at the midway point to earlier in his professional career.

Yes, velocity ALONG WITH the weight.

For instance, if "weight" isn't a factor, why then are their respective weight divisions in boxing?

If weight isn't a factor, why then did Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) implement weight divisions back in 2001?

By the way, even in the later stages of Joes career, he was by NO means fat. He was 6 foot 2. His weigh in at the weigh ins was 211 to 213 pounds. That is by NO means fat.
You only have to look at Louis' record going into the fight with Marciano to see his punching ability wasn't anywhere near as deadly as it used to be. From losing to Charles in 1950 Louis had 8 fights. He won all 8 but 5 were on points. Of the 3 he stopped one was on a cut, and one was in the 10th and last round. To have 5 decision wins in 8 fights wasn't normal for Louis and a sign his knockout ability was on the slide.

Weight has little to do with punch power. The reason for weights is pretty obvious otherwise you would have 8 stone men fighting 18 stone men. Louis was flabby and past it when he fought Marciano. Its common knowledge he was broke and thats the only reason he came back into boxing.
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