Cholo wrote:Frank, Bolanos/Williams you were at those fights, I've seen film on youtube of the second fight. Enrique Bolanos impressed me excellent boxer, Ike Williams was a great fighter. Ike Williams/Roberto Duran would have been a great fight..
Paul, Bolanos was a very good boxer that could bang with both hands....Williams v Duran? Duran at lightweight was a young and raw fighter whom inexperience would work to Williams's advantage, imo. I would pick Williams by decision in 15 rounds.
Frank, I'm sure Williams/Duran would have been one hell of a fight, I can't argue with your pick Frank. Although Roberto was a very special fighter, it would have been a close one..
Cholo wrote:Frank, Have you any more photos of the lovely Ruby Bolanos? Enrique sure was a lucky fella, she's a Knockout.
No, what I have I have posted already. Great looking lady that Ruby...Last time I seen her was June of last year at the CBHOF event, she was still looking great..
Cholo wrote:Frank, Have you any more photos of the lovely Ruby Bolanos? Enrique sure was a lucky fella, she's a Knockout.
No, what I have I have posted already. Great looking lady that Ruby...Last time I seen her was June of last year at the CBHOF event, she was still looking great..
Art "Golden Boy" Aragon/Woody Winslow...Oct 28, 1955
Art Rusty In Taking Winslow.
Art Aragon his ankle apparently back in shape following it's ill-fated collapse here against Joe Miceli last Aug 4, made his comeback into local fistic circles last night at the Olympic. Where he hammered out an impressive 10 round technical knockout over Woody Winslow in the nontelevised main event. A 5-1 favorite over the boy who recently scored a third round knockout over Ramon Tiscareno. Aragon was way ahead when he finally dropped Winslow after 28 seconds of the final round with a fast left hook to the chin. Referee Dynamite Jackson didn't bother to count after Winslow went down. He merely stepped over and hoisted Aragon's hand in token of victory.
Cholo wrote:Art "Golden Boy" Aragon/Woody Winslow...Oct 28, 1955
Art Rusty In Taking Winslow.
Art Aragon his ankle apparently back in shape following it's ill-fated collapse here against Joe Miceli last Aug 4, made his comeback into local fistic circles last night at the Olympic. Where he hammered out an impressive 10 round technical knockout over Woody Winslow in the nontelevised main event. A 5-1 favorite over the boy who recently scored a third round knockout over Ramon Tiscareno. Aragon was way ahead when he finally dropped Winslow after 28 seconds of the final round with a fast left hook to the chin. Referee Dynamite Jackson didn't bother to count after Winslow went down. He merely stepped over and hoisted Aragon's hand in token of victory.
Art "Golden Boy" Aragon/Henry Davis...Aug.5,1953 San Francisco.
Two of Southern California's better fighters traveled up to San Francisco to settle their feud, but succeeded only in adding more fuel to the fire. Before 3000 fans at Cow Palace. Art "Golden Boy" Aragon 144 1/2, was awarded a knockout over Henry Davis, 138 1/2, Los Angeles, in 1 :39 of the tenth and last round. The referee stopped the bout on the advice of the doctor because of a bad cut in Davis' lower lip. The crowd booed and Davis fumed, but the fight was all over, just when it seemed as if the 3 to 1 underdog was on his way to victory. Harder puncher Aragon tried for a knockout over his smaller and faster foe, but was unable to hurt Henry. It was nip-and-tuck for the first seven rounds, with both still fresh. Davis opened up in the eighth, drove Art to the ropes, and stunned him with an overhand right to the jaw. Aragon staggered Davis with a short right to the chin at the bell, but his left eye was cut. Aragon was swinging wildly in the ninth and a left hook opened the cut in Henry's lip. Art was bleeding from the nose and left eye, and both were covered with gore. Aragon came out fast for the tenth and was throwing punches from all angles as he tried to pull out victory. They were slugging it out, when the referee halted them to have the doctor look at Davis' mouth. When it was stopped the fans swarmed over the ring, screaming for the fight to continue. The bout was televised nationally , while being blacked out in the San Francisco area. It drew $6.000. A rematch would be a sellout. At the end of nine rounds both judges had Davis in front 50-49, while the referee had it for Art 50 1/2-48 1/2.
Cholo wrote:Art "Golden Boy" Aragon/Henry Davis...Aug.5,1953 San Francisco.
Two of Southern California's better fighters traveled up to San Francisco to settle their feud, but succeeded only in adding more fuel to the fire. Before 3000 fans at Cow Palace. Art "Golden Boy" Aragon 144 1/2, was awarded a knockout over Henry Davis, 138 1/2, Los Angeles, in 1 :39 of the tenth and last round. The referee stopped the bout on the advice of the doctor because of a bad cut in Davis' lower lip. The crowd booed and Davis fumed, but the fight was all over, just when it seemed as if the 3 to 1 underdog was on his way to victory. Harder puncher Aragon tried for a knockout over his smaller and faster foe, but was unable to hurt Henry. It was nip-and-tuck for the first seven rounds, with both still fresh. Davis opened up in the eighth, drove Art to the ropes, and stunned him with an overhand right to the jaw. Aragon staggered Davis with a short right to the chin at the bell, but his left eye was cut. Aragon was swinging wildly in the ninth and a left hook opened the cut in Henry's lip. Art was bleeding from the nose and left eye, and both were covered with gore. Aragon came out fast for the tenth and was throwing punches from all angles as he tried to pull out victory. They were slugging it out, when the referee halted them to have the doctor look at Davis' mouth. When it was stopped the fans swarmed over the ring, screaming for the fight to continue. The bout was televised nationally , while being blacked out in the San Francisco area. It drew $6.000. A rematch would be a sellout. At the end of nine rounds both judges had Davis in front 50-49, while the referee had it for Art 50 1/2-48 1/2.
Cholo wrote:Art "Golden Boy" Aragon/Henry Davis...Aug.5,1953 San Francisco.
Two of Southern California's better fighters traveled up to San Francisco to settle their feud, but succeeded only in adding more fuel to the fire. Before 3000 fans at Cow Palace. Art "Golden Boy" Aragon 144 1/2, was awarded a knockout over Henry Davis, 138 1/2, Los Angeles, in 1 :39 of the tenth and last round. The referee stopped the bout on the advice of the doctor because of a bad cut in Davis' lower lip. The crowd booed and Davis fumed, but the fight was all over, just when it seemed as if the 3 to 1 underdog was on his way to victory. Harder puncher Aragon tried for a knockout over his smaller and faster foe, but was unable to hurt Henry. It was nip-and-tuck for the first seven rounds, with both still fresh. Davis opened up in the eighth, drove Art to the ropes, and stunned him with an overhand right to the jaw. Aragon staggered Davis with a short right to the chin at the bell, but his left eye was cut. Aragon was swinging wildly in the ninth and a left hook opened the cut in Henry's lip. Art was bleeding from the nose and left eye, and both were covered with gore. Aragon came out fast for the tenth and was throwing punches from all angles as he tried to pull out victory. They were slugging it out, when the referee halted them to have the doctor look at Davis' mouth. When it was stopped the fans swarmed over the ring, screaming for the fight to continue. The bout was televised nationally , while being blacked out in the San Francisco area. It drew $6.000. A rematch would be a sellout. At the end of nine rounds both judges had Davis in front 50-49, while the referee had it for Art 50 1/2-48 1/2.
Frank, There's some great footage of the old timers on youtube, Aragon/Davis all action fight. But none have impressed me as much as your favorite fighter Enrique Bolanos, has there ever been a book written on Enrique? were many of his fights filmed.
Cholo wrote:Art "Golden Boy" Aragon/Henry Davis...Aug.5,1953 San Francisco.
Two of Southern California's better fighters traveled up to San Francisco to settle their feud, but succeeded only in adding more fuel to the fire. Before 3000 fans at Cow Palace. Art "Golden Boy" Aragon 144 1/2, was awarded a knockout over Henry Davis, 138 1/2, Los Angeles, in 1 :39 of the tenth and last round. The referee stopped the bout on the advice of the doctor because of a bad cut in Davis' lower lip. The crowd booed and Davis fumed, but the fight was all over, just when it seemed as if the 3 to 1 underdog was on his way to victory. Harder puncher Aragon tried for a knockout over his smaller and faster foe, but was unable to hurt Henry. It was nip-and-tuck for the first seven rounds, with both still fresh. Davis opened up in the eighth, drove Art to the ropes, and stunned him with an overhand right to the jaw. Aragon staggered Davis with a short right to the chin at the bell, but his left eye was cut. Aragon was swinging wildly in the ninth and a left hook opened the cut in Henry's lip. Art was bleeding from the nose and left eye, and both were covered with gore. Aragon came out fast for the tenth and was throwing punches from all angles as he tried to pull out victory. They were slugging it out, when the referee halted them to have the doctor look at Davis' mouth. When it was stopped the fans swarmed over the ring, screaming for the fight to continue. The bout was televised nationally , while being blacked out in the San Francisco area. It drew $6.000. A rematch would be a sellout. At the end of nine rounds both judges had Davis in front 50-49, while the referee had it for Art 50 1/2-48 1/2.
Frank, There's some great footage of the old timers on youtube, Aragon/Davis all action fight. But none have impressed me as much as your favorite fighter Enrique Bolanos, has there ever been a book written on Enrique? were many of his fights filmed.
Paul, the only Bolanos fight that I know to be on film is the second Williams fight. Too bad!
Frank, There's some great footage of the old timers on youtube, Aragon/Davis all action fight. But none have impressed me as much as your favorite fighter Enrique Bolanos, has there ever been a book written on Enrique? were many of his fights filmed.
Paul, the only Bolanos fight that I know to be on film is the second Williams fight. Too bad!
Frank, What a shame, Enrique was a classy boxer puncher...
Frank, I've just been watching Carlos Ortiz/Battling Torres for the first time, I purchased this dvd collection recently. And who should Jimmy Lennon introduce into the ring Enrique Bolanos, Enrique was looking cool. Frank were you at this fight?.
Cholo wrote:Frank, I've just been watching Carlos Ortiz/Battling Torres for the first time, I purchased this dvd collection recently. And who should Jimmy Lennon introduce into the ring Enrique Bolanos, Enrique was looking cool. Frank were you at this fight?.
Yeah, Paul, I was at the coliseum for that fight. There was some good fights that night.
1960-Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, California, United States
Cholo wrote:Frank, I've just been watching Carlos Ortiz/Battling Torres for the first time, I purchased this dvd collection recently. And who should Jimmy Lennon introduce into the ring Enrique Bolanos, Enrique was looking cool. Frank were you at this fight?.
Yeah, Paul, I was at the coliseum for that fight. There was some good fights that night.
1960-Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, California, United States
Carlos Ortiz W Battling Torres KO 10 15
Jose Becerra W Alphonse Halimi KO 9 15
Ray Salazar L Jose Luis Cruz PTS 6 6
Billy Collins L George Green PTS 4 4
Frank, do you know if the Billy Collins who lost to George Green was the same guy who was the father of Billy Collins, Jr. (the fellow who was the victim of Luis Resto's loaded gloves).
Cholo wrote:Frank, I've just been watching Carlos Ortiz/Battling Torres for the first time, I purchased this dvd collection recently. And who should Jimmy Lennon introduce into the ring Enrique Bolanos, Enrique was looking cool. Frank were you at this fight?.
Yeah, Paul, I was at the coliseum for that fight. There was some good fights that night.
1960-Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, California, United States
Carlos Ortiz W Battling Torres KO 10 15
Jose Becerra W Alphonse Halimi KO 9 15
Ray Salazar L Jose Luis Cruz PTS 6 6
Billy Collins L George Green PTS 4 4
Frank, do you know if the Billy Collins who lost to George Green was the same guy who was the father of Billy Collins, Jr. (the fellow who was the victim of Luis Resto's loaded gloves).
Don't know, Tom. This was in 1960, so its possible that that's him.
kikibalt wrote:
Yeah, Paul, I was at the coliseum for that fight. There was some good fights that night.
1960-Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, California, United States
Carlos Ortiz W Battling Torres KO 10 15
Jose Becerra W Alphonse Halimi KO 9 15
Ray Salazar L Jose Luis Cruz PTS 6 6
Billy Collins L George Green PTS 4 4
Frank, do you know if the Billy Collins who lost to George Green was the same guy who was the father of Billy Collins, Jr. (the fellow who was the victim of Luis Resto's loaded gloves).
Don't know, Tom. This was in 1960, so its possible that that's him.
raylawpc wrote:
Frank, do you know if the Billy Collins who lost to George Green was the same guy who was the father of Billy Collins, Jr. (the fellow who was the victim of Luis Resto's loaded gloves).
Don't know, Tom. This was in 1960, so its possible that that's him.
Frank, Battling Torres looked like a good little fighter, hard to believe he was only 18. Ortiz was a good champion. Billy Collins the pop of the late Billy Collins Jnr was on the undercard that night, Billy Collins Snr boxed pro from 1958 to 1965.
Frank have you seen Assault In The Ring documentary about the Collins Jnr/Luis Resto fight?.
Cholo wrote:Frank, Battling Torres looked like a good little fighter, hard to believe he was only 18. Ortiz was a good champion. Billy Collins the pop of the late Billy Collins Jnr was on the undercard that night, Billy Collins Snr boxed pro from 1958 to 1965.
Frank have you seen Assault In The Ring documentary about the Collins Jnr/Luis Resto fight?.
Paul, Ortiz, imo was a very fighter. Torres was a good fighter who imo was rushed to fast into a fight with Ortiz. I think he needed more seasoning before he fought a guy like Ortiz.
Assault In The Ring? no, I haven't seen it, and I probably won't, I don't think I need to see it.
Cholo wrote:Frank, Battling Torres looked like a good little fighter, hard to believe he was only 18. Ortiz was a good champion. Billy Collins the pop of the late Billy Collins Jnr was on the undercard that night, Billy Collins Snr boxed pro from 1958 to 1965.
Frank have you seen Assault In The Ring documentary about the Collins Jnr/Luis Resto fight?.
Paul, Ortiz, imo was a very fighter. Torres was a good fighter who imo was rushed to fast into a fight with Ortiz. I think he needed more seasoning before he fought a guy like Ortiz.
Assault In The Ring? no, I haven't seen it, and I probably won't, I don't think I need to see it.
Cholo wrote:Frank, Battling Torres looked like a good little fighter, hard to believe he was only 18. Ortiz was a good champion. Billy Collins the pop of the late Billy Collins Jnr was on the undercard that night, Billy Collins Snr boxed pro from 1958 to 1965.
Frank have you seen Assault In The Ring documentary about the Collins Jnr/Luis Resto fight?.
Paul, Ortiz, imo was a very fighter. Torres was a good fighter who imo was rushed to fast into a fight with Ortiz. I think he needed more seasoning before he fought a guy like Ortiz.
Assault In The Ring? no, I haven't seen it, and I probably won't, I don't think I need to see it.
Frank, Bad night for boxing Collins/Resto.
It was Butch Lewis who was Resto trainer, right? maybe not!
kikibalt wrote:
Paul, Ortiz, imo was a very fighter. Torres was a good fighter who imo was rushed to fast into a fight with Ortiz. I think he needed more seasoning before he fought a guy like Ortiz.
Assault In The Ring? no, I haven't seen it, and I probably won't, I don't think I need to see it.
Frank, Bad night for boxing Collins/Resto.
It was Butch Lewis who was Resto trainer, right? maybe not!
The 2012 CBHOF event will be held October 20th at the Sportsman's Lodge in Studio City.
Don Fraser and I made the selections for this year yesterday. Will post the list later after a few more inductees have been contacted.
