Stanley Ketchel vs Carlos Monzon

[ELA]

I think a terrific war................

Who Wins?

[tiredoldngrey]

Ketchel. Wouldn't let Monzon hypnotize him and make him keep his distance and eat right hands. He'd get close and fire punches. Ketchel by UD in 15

[dnahar32]

Ketchel. Wouldn't let Monzon hypnotize him and make him keep his distance and eat right hands. He'd get close and fire punches. Ketchel by UD in 15

I have to disagree here. Monzon, at 5-11 1/2, had the 2 1/2" height advantage on the 5-9 Ketchel, and he had a 4 1/2" reach advantage. If you had to pick a fighter who does keep the right distance in a fight, it was Monzon. The hard right hands behind the Monzon jab would have kept Ketchel at bay. Ketchel would try and crowd Monzon, but he would have to eat a lot of right hands and jabs to do it. I think Monzon would win the majority of rounds and take the 15-round decision.

[Grimm]

Who would win this match of a boxer vs. a puncher.

[vagabundo55]

Monzon by unanimous decision.

[elmersalsa]

Ketchel. Wouldn't let Monzon hypnotize him and make him keep his distance and eat right hands. He'd get close and fire punches. Ketchel by UD in 15

I have to disagree here. Monzon, at 5-11 1/2, had the 2 1/2" height advantage on the 5-9 Ketchel, and he had a 4 1/2" reach advantage. If you had to pick a fighter who does keep the right distance in a fight, it was Monzon. The hard right hands behind the Monzon jab would have kept Ketchel at bay. Ketchel would try and crowd Monzon, but he would have to eat a lot of right hands and jabs to do it. I think Monzon would win the majority of rounds and take the 15-round decision.

I definately AGREE here. The ONLY thing I disagree in thi post was Monzon's height. I think he was 6'1" wasn't he???

Monzon was the greatest middleweight of ALL-TIME

[BoxBuzz]

I think Monzon wins. And in this case Monzon had the benefit of this craft being honed since the Ketchal Days. Lot's of folks don't agree here but the science got sweeter and Monzon was pretty sweet with the science.

Time marches on, Ketchals style would not have allowed him to be ready for what Monzon brought. And I agree about Monzon being one of if not the best MW.

[dnahar32]

Who would win this match of a boxer vs. a puncher.

Grimm, you should have made a separate thread on this. I almost missed it.


I think Tunney at light heavy would have beat Bob Foster by KO. The master boxing he displayed as a heavyweight (I haven't seen any fight of Tunney's at LH, were any filmed?) was probably better at light heavy where he carried less weight and had more speed. Foster, while he had all the physical tools, could get frustrated and was KO'd by heavyweights. Tunney was never stopped. Tunney would be faster, land more, and get away from most of Bob's best shots. Foster would get frustrated and tired, and Tunney would land some flurries to stop Foster late.

[Grimm]

Who would win this match of a boxer vs. a puncher.

Grimm, you should have made a separate thread on this. I almost missed it.


I think Tunney at light heavy would have beat Bob Foster by KO. The master boxing he displayed as a heavyweight (I haven't seen any fight of Tunney's at LH, were any filmed?) was probably better at light heavy where he carried less weight and had more speed. Foster, while he had all the physical tools, could get frustrated and was KO'd by heavyweights. Tunney was never stopped. Tunney would be faster, land more, and get away from most of Bob's best shots. Foster would get frustrated and tired, and Tunney would land some flurries to stop Foster late.

Hey man I don't know WTF happened on this one.

Sorry for messin' up your thread.

[dnahar32]

I definately AGREE here. The ONLY thing I disagree in thi post was Monzon's height. I think he was 6'1" wasn't he???

Monzon was the greatest middleweight of ALL-TIME [/size]

According to the Tale of the Tape of the Napoles fight and the Boxing Register, Monzon was 5-11 1/2. He has been listed up to 6-2, but I usually go with the lowest height from a legitimate source I can find. And I agree, Monzon was #1 among middleweights.

[ELA]

Don't forget, Although premative with his skills, Ketchel came from an era when pain was not a issue. You fought until you were half dead. That toughness makes up for allot.......................

[vagabundo55]

Ketchel. Wouldn't let Monzon hypnotize him and make him keep his distance and eat right hands. He'd get close and fire punches. Ketchel by UD in 15

I have to disagree here. Monzon, at 5-11 1/2, had the 2 1/2" height advantage on the 5-9 Ketchel, and he had a 4 1/2" reach advantage. If you had to pick a fighter who does keep the right distance in a fight, it was Monzon. The hard right hands behind the Monzon jab would have kept Ketchel at bay. Ketchel would try and crowd Monzon, but he would have to eat a lot of right hands and jabs to do it. I think Monzon would win the majority of rounds and take the 15-round decision.

I definately AGREE here. The ONLY thing I disagree in thi post was Monzon's height. I think he was 6'1" wasn't he???

Monzon was the greatest middleweight of ALL-TIME

I'd say he is also but Hagler was damn good also. It's one of those things we'll never really find out.