Who Is Your Most Hated Boxer Ever?

[Trent]

Darchynian coming from Armenia has wrestling experience when growing up. He probably could make the transition (maybe not now due to his age) those probably were not bad comments. I think Green is alright, and hats off to him for taking on tough competition in his last two fights. Would be like Mundine taking on Pirog, Golovkin and Proksa (who I believe are the new light to the middle weight division and perhaps the next goldern era of middle weight boxing since Hagler, Hearns and Leonard)

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I used to read Larry Holmes forum on his own site. He once said that Tyson doesn't hit hard, and that Cooney hit harder. Seems like nonsense really. Mundine I dislike as he puts on crappy boxing cards, and doesn't fight decent opposition most of the time. Danny Green is cool, before he made comments of wanting to fight Brock Lesnar lol. Generally I'm only in it to watch the boxing, not their personal life or what their opinions are.

I think Larry Holmes was trying to differentiate between the heavy handedness of his opponents.

In the aftermath of his loss to Tyson, he said to the interviewer that being hit by Tyson was like being hit by a Corvette, wheareas, being hit by Shavers was like being hit by a truck.

I can understand that, because Tyson's power came from his extraordinary speed & combinations, rather than out & out heavy handedness.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Tyson did prove himself to have that heavy-handedness when the speed was gone, however.

[flatnoseflynn]

Del a hoya, Foreman,

Do you hate Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, too?

You still believe in them? sheesh

[gilgamesh]

John Ruiz, I know he's not a "bad person" but he was THE worst to watch fight, everytime he stepped in the ring I hope someone pulled another David Tua on his ass and blew him outta there in less than 30 seconds.

I can't stand David Haye or Floyd Mayweather either. I respect the hell out Mayweather's ability, and I acknowledge he's a tremendous fighter, but nobody in the sport deserves to get their ass whipped more than him.

I used to hate James Toney, but I came around on him. He's now one of my all time favorites talk about a turnaround.

Oh also I hope Povetkin gets smashed by someone soon. I don't like bitches in my beloved sport of boxing.

[Norm]

How can anyone be more contemptible than Tony Ayala Jr. ??

[Techno89]

Larry Holmes

[Goodnight, Irene]

Larry Holmes

[Tomasino]

How can anyone be more contemptible than Tony Ayala Jr. ??

Yes, agree. James Butler is up there amoungst the worst of them.

[IRLangmaid25]

Del a hoya, Foreman,

Do you hate Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, too?

Might as well throw the toothfairy into the mix as well while we are at it. My contribution to this thread is quite simply the following. First of all Antonio Margarito for getting caught loading up his gloves prior to fighting Sugar Shane Mosley three years ago, for me like every fight fan in the world he crossed the line and refuses to apologises for it, until he does I would love to see him knocked out sprawled over the bottom rope in a manner similar to Joe Erskine was after being flattened Henry Cooper when challenging for the British title back in 1959.

Secondly David Haye. When got the Cruiserweight belts and then went upto Heavyweight with the speed and power he possessed at the time everyone thought we have a guy that is going to be the man to end the reign of the K Boys, got the belt to increase his bargaining power with them, talked up his chances etc did the T shirt which I found distasteful and flopped on the night like a drunken one night stand so I tend to regard him now as a false prophet after conning about million or so of us out of £15.99 to watch him plus there was that Audley Harrison fight as well which I won't mention.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Cmon, Langers.

Even the bravest boxers in history could not have overcome the herculean adversity that is a broken pinky toe D

[bollox]

"How can he (Bert Sugar) rate George Foreman ahead of me? George couldnt beat Jimmy Young, he couldnt beat Tommy Morrison, and he couldnt beat Shannon Briggs."

"When I look at all the great fighters at HW, I have to put myself on the top. I have to. The only man to stop Muhammad Ali."

Fucken imbecile

Ladies and gents...we have a winner (loser)

Leonard is right up there too. He had the opportunity to take boxing into the mainstream and for a while he did. He was a brilliant fighter, he was articulate and he was marketable. He should have been the fighter that showed average Joe that not all boxers are knuckle dragging neanderthals yet in the end and to quote Nick Santoro from Casino..."but in the end....we fvcked it allllll up"

[Ezzard]

I agree that for most people it’s the fans, or people they know who are fans, of a fighter that wind you up. On the internet you get all sorts of nutters so there is more rubbish spouted.

Everyone excuses their favourites for their defeats. That’s the bread and butter of these BOTP forums. It’s an excuse if you don’t like the fighter, if you do like them then it’s an extenuating circumstance.

I went from loving Ray Leonard to disliking him from the moment he beat Hagler. He treated the sport like a bit of a joke and got every possible advantage from the governing bodies. Watching the old films again I couldn’t believe how biased the commentary was. The way he retired to avoid fights. Came back against selected opponents…it’s become the norm today, maybe it always was and Ray’s actions coincided with the scales falling from my eyes regarding the sport.

But having said all that he fought many top fighters and these days the good memories have come back and I just shrug off the bu11sh1t post-Hagler nonsense. So I’ve sort of come full circle, well not quite, he’s not my favourite but he’s one of my most preferred boxers.

I find it difficult to dislike boxers from the third world or poorer nations. So any guy from Africa, Asia, Latin America, I would never actively dislike. So generally it comes down to pampered American stars who earn a lot from little risk. Roy Jones is clearly the biggest culprit…ever. I just hope he doesn’t retire soon.

[Ambling Alp]

I really don't care where a fighter is from as to whether I like him or not. There are plenty of example of fighters who came from poor backgrounds who were good guys. At a certain point in life, you should grow up and be a decent human being.

Monzon is probably the best known fighter that I think deserves to be this list. He was responisble for someone else's death. (For some reason this is mentioned very rarely.) That trumps almost anything else.

To a lesser degree, I have usual suspects like Tyson, Duran, and LaMotta on the list.

[raylawpc]

Everyone excuses their favourites for their defeats.

Ezz, you don't have to when one of your favorites retired UNDEFEATED as world heavyweight champion. . .

[Goodnight, Irene]

People under-estimate how difficult it is to go unbeaten all those years. They cite poor opposition and then downgrade the accomplishment, which is only half-fair.

The reality is, most guys will beat themselves with poor prep, one way or another, so I have a very healthy respect for Marciano's often under-appreciated 49-0-0.

With that said, if Foreman, Liston, Dempsey, Ali, Frazier and one or two others didnt compile a perfect record in that legitimately weak age, then they certainly would have gone close (perhaps two or three defeats MAX), and all, sans Frazier, had many more fights, and against sterner foes. 49-0-0 is certainly great, but all those guys were more than capable of emulating it against Marciano's rivals, and at least three (Foreman, Ali, and Joe Louis most of all) WOULD have either matched or bettered 49-0-0, or won more bouts unbeaten and gone on until they were defeated.

[raylawpc]

People under-estimate how difficult it is to go unbeaten all those years. They cite poor opposition and then downgrade the accomplishment, which is only half-fair.

The reality is, most guys will beat themselves with poor prep, one way or another, so I have a very healthy respect for Marciano's often under-appreciated 49-0-0.

With that said, if Foreman, Liston, Dempsey, Ali, Frazier and one or two others didnt compile a perfect record in that legitimately weak age, then they certainly would have gone close (perhaps two or three defeats MAX), and all, sans Frazier, had many more fights, and against sterner foes. 49-0-0 is certainly great, but all those guys were more than capable of emulating it against Marciano's rivals, and at least three (Foreman, Ali, and Joe Louis most of all) WOULD have either matched or bettered 49-0-0, or won more bouts unbeaten and gone on until they were defeated.

Thanks for proving my point. Others need excuses for not going undefeated . . .

[Goodnight, Irene]

I guess you missed my point.

[JDC]

There's merit to what GI is saying here. For example, if Lewis had have prepared similarly for all his fights he may have retired undefeated. The ability to get yourself ''up for the task'' has to be considered a product of said fighters mental attributes. When we couple this with the KOs Marciano secured whilst struggling if fights, we're building a picture of a fighter with a near impregnable mentality. Upon being assessed, this resolve is often ignored (in hypotheticals etc). People look at his fights and are unimpressed with his ability and site it as a poor time for boxing. No way could someone, considered so technically poor by so many, be so successful (without having an immeasurable edge elsewhere). I'd probably agree on the lucky timing regard, but the guy had something else (and bags of it).

[Goodnight, Irene]

Precisely.

It was a weak era, but getting up for every bout sufficiently so as not to drop even one fight is a harder cumulative task than perhaps the quality of foes reads.

Thats why, even in weak eras, Boxing produces so few unblemished champions. Marciano deserves a healthy dose of credit for that.

[raylawpc]

I guess you missed my point.

i guess you should have made your point better, then. I appreciate JDC for clarifying it.

[jehu]

W klitsko he has all the physical advantages power,good boxing skills but wouldnt take a risk to save himself even against guys he would run over.