Darren Sutherland inquest article

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympi ... -told.html?

Interesting reading. Anyone know who Declan Brennan is? Part of FM Promotions?
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Shirow wrote:Anyone know who Declan Brennan is? Part of FM Promotions?
Apparently a friend of Darren's from Dublin Uni.

Whoever he is, he has a lot to answer for.
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Asterix wrote:Whoever this Declan Brennan guy is, he has a lot to answer for.
Seems a tw*t,poor Frank was getting grief on twitter by some fool saying he hopes Sutherland haunts him :shame:
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Seems as though the guy was trying to give him a reality check...sadly it appears to have pushed Darren over the edge.

With depression you have to be so careful
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Post by whiskey »

It's easy to stick the boot into this guy or that guy.

Fact is nobody knew how frail he was mentally. Not his parents, friends or trainers.

We should all just bear in mind what grief can do to parents who've lost their child. Whether their looking for answers or looking for blame, that's up to them.

We should all stop being vultures, and ignore this saga.
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They said he won a super middleweight medal in the olympics, obv a poor journalist, wouldnt read too much into the article
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G0mez wrote:
We should all just bear in mind what grief can do to parents who've lost their child. Whether their looking for answers or looking for blame, that's up to them.

We should all stop being vultures, and ignore this saga.
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i hope Frank does NOT pay any heed to this article, which seems to be trying to find someone to blame when there is no one to blame.

A sad loss but ultimately this is the legacy folk who commit suicide leave behind.
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How was this guy to know Darren was suicidal. Bottom line was Darren obviously got a huge signing on fee based on future fights, so if he didn't fight, he'd have to pay it back.
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That headline by the Telegraph is extremely unfair on FM

That letter found is awful though, threatening really, talk about giving you no room to move.
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Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
Asterix wrote:Whoever this Declan Brennan guy is, he has a lot to answer for.
Seems a tw*t,poor Frank was getting grief on twitter by some fool saying he hopes Sutherland haunts him :shame:


Thats Bollox to say things like that....... His family must be going through a lot of pain, a lot of unanswered questions People want answer and it seems they want someone to Blame and in this Case its Frank and i feel for them but Frank didnt do this to him imo Frank has gone through a lot of Shit over this that No Man deserves..
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This is the article that the Irish Times newspaper had covering the inquest today:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/bre ... ing54.html
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If people involved with Darren are looking for answers then I hope they find them.

I don't know Frank Maloney personally, but he is a boxing man through and through a boxers promoter I have major doubts he would had put that much pressure on Sutherland to fight.

The one major thing I find out, was also mentioned in the comment.... found hanged with his two hands tied together.

It seemed that the recent inquest into Gary Speed's death brought more questions than answers and led to futher speculation, I hope this doesn't do the same.
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I still can't believe this.
Darren turned up in Sheffield at Wincobank many years ago and showed he had bags of potential.
What a nice lad as well.
Worked hard at his boxing, and at his studies. Remember him working at a Sports Shop in Meadowhall to earn a bit extra.
Always thoughtful quiet and studious, but never in a million years would I have thought it would end this way.
RIP Darren.
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I strongly believe Frank is not to blame for what happenned. Regardless of the fact that it probably wasn't any of his doing he will still be deeply affected by all this. Personally I feel it is unfair on him, especially people tweeting him abuse. I don't think anyone could have foreseen what happened, if they could, measures would have been taken. I was with Darren about 3 days before he did this & I didn't have a clue as to what was coming. I just think its a bit much to lay the blame for such a tragic event on one persons shoulders, especially when from where I am, it looks very unlikely that it was his doing. I'm not claiming he's a saint but Maloney is a human being like anyone else and should not be subject to all this.
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THE BLAME IF ANY LIES WITH THE MAN WHO PERPERTRATED THE ACT.

that might be hard for the family of the man involved however to blame Frank is sick and not warranted the bloke already had aheart attack over all of this.

My thoughts rest with the living in this case. Harsh as that may seem, its a fact.

Frank whom Ive met several times is a good bloke and wil be feeling shitty about all of this and her neednt.

That is wrong.
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Really sad to read about what his mind set was prior his death!!

Clearly just a worrier, very anxious individual, and found himself in a position that he didn't think he could escape from.

If you are investing big money to sign a boxer, you want him to box and make you money. That's what contracts are for. There should be no blame attached to Frank for that however. That is business. I feel sorry for him in all of this too.

Just a really sad story. RIP.
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Frank should pay no notice of this article, frank maloney is a good man who cares for his boxers in and out of the ring. frank (some would say wrongly) gets emotionally involved with his fighters and becomes a friend as well as a father figure, im led to believe darren sutherland actually spent time living with frank and family, thats how highly frank thought of darren as a man.

Im saddened by this article, boxings crap has made frank ill once, i hope it does not happen again as frank is a decent genuine man with his heart in the right place, he is boxing through and through and is not one of the vipers in the pit!!
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well said Rhino, well played sir. :TU:
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God only know what was going through that poor lads troubled mind at the time :(
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http://randomirishnews.com/2009/09/28/b ... of-boxing/ i think people should read this why was this not brought out at the inquest by Sutherland parents legal team i wonder way.
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In an emotional interview arranged on condition their name was not revealed, a friend said they had listened to Darren’s concerns about his career over a period of more than a month but had no idea he would end his life.
The friend said: ‘I knew Darren was upset about things because he started to open up about them around the end of July.
‘He was down about everything and he told me he felt he had to make a decision sooner rather than later because he didn’t want to let people down.
‘Darren basically told me one night that he wanted to get out of boxing.
‘He said he found the pressure so overwhelming from all sides and that he just didn’t feel he was up to the task of going all the way.
‘But he was torn on the whole subject and changed his mind a few times over the weeks leading up to his death.
‘He didn’t want to let down his family, especially his father.
‘He also didn’t want to return to Ireland a failure. He was also confused about his feelings towards the sport because he loved boxing.
‘His confidence had just slipped and he couldn’t get himself back on track.’
The friend added: ‘One of Darren’s biggest problems with the decision to quit was what to say to Frank Maloney.
‘Frank had given him everything he wanted but he just felt bad about wanting to walk away.’ So now all those who have be writing shit about me and trying to point a finger toward me will now stop. I wish i had this story in my hand last thursday or knew who this honest friend is if you do read this please come forward and tell every one what you know.
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Not sure ppl blame you, Frank. A tragic event and the lad felt, in his mind, that this was the best option. A difficult thing, trying to look for answers in any suicide, especially in one so young, talented and with their future ahead of them.
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Maloney does not deserve this, plain and simple. Nothing else needed to be stated.
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Frank makes plans to retire from the sport

http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news ... y_to_quit/
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