Groves-Anderson postponed

[smoggy7188]

Accusing Groves of faking the threat is just as bad as saying Kenny had sumthin to do with it.

[yiddo14]

Accusing Groves of faking the threat is just as bad as saying Kenny had sumthin to do with it.

It's worse.

Didn't Groves win an award recently for sportsmanship, with his show of class during the DeGale and indeed Anderson episodes? Might be wrong but I'm sure I heard it mentioned on Ringside.

[smoggy7188]

Aye, he won some award due to way he handled himself during DeGale build up.

[hoop]

I'm not saying George himself put out this story, but in my opinion the story has been put out to make Anderson look bad, someone has made this up and its awful funny its came out the week Groves is getting slatted by many for pulling out the fight, this story has got people talking about something other than Groves pulling out, Groves looks like a "victim" and Anderson looks like a thug.

The story is absolutely ridiculous think to yourself's for a min, who the hell would shot someone in a packed arena, while live on tv?, if it was Anderson's gangster friends, then don't you think they may be slightly worried about shooting Anderson by mistake, since both boxers would be moving around the ring, and very close together?, or even the ref? not to mention the fact they would absolutely be caught and sentenced to about 30 years for murdering a guy.

Gangland shooting are not done on live TV.

[Jeff Thomas]

I've read a few versions of the story. One or two things stand out, they say the call wasn't made to Groves, the police notified him about it. The call came prior to the fight, but it has only just come to light now the fight is off. So we're dealing with criminals who phone the police to notify them that they're working on a high-profile crime that is going to take place on a specific date (that is no longer in place), at a specific venue and using a specific weapon. Did these chaps sign off the call by giving their full names and addresses?

As for The Sun, the threats pertain to a fight that is no longer taking place, so they felt it was their duty as a pillar of our fine, upstanding society to release this story as it is their civic duty to let people know that they've foiled a crime that had lost its single window of opportunity and now looks unlikely to take place unless the would be shooters manage to a) help smooth the way for Stieglitz-Groves b) get a gun over to Germany c) get past George's tripod wielding 6' 3'', 210lb somewhat deranged best mate d) manage to shoot their target from a ridiculous distance without hitting one of the other two men in the ring e) find a way of preventing Adam 'The Dark Lord' Booth from reading their thoughts and stealing their vital life force using his cosmic mind rays.

Is there any synergy between this news story, Chisora and Haye's recent loving attempt to give the sport a profile boost and the fact that The Sun is desperate to run stories that don't include the words, 'phone hacking', 'corruption', 'Wouldn't it be great if we could smear the grieving parents of this dead kid', 'Oriental trophy wife attacks foam pie wielding nutter while her mummified husband tries to remember how many wars he has started'.

No one is getting shot, stabbed or even punched with a boxing glove in this one. Groves will ditch the British belt, talk about how he is going over to Germany draped in the Union Jack to give British boxing a boost because we have all seen how Chisora single handedly dragged it through the mud while squaring up to an invisible man, who later used ESP to hurl a tripod across a room, it was spooky, and our reaction will be, 'Wow, he's challenging for a world title, that is awesome - I'm stoked. I'm going to book flights and find the world's only non-refundable hotel booking site.'

Anderson will probably fight Paul Smith in a fight that will feature some of the bluntest pre-fight talk of all time, and possibly a riot between the Scottish and Scouse, who will then fall into each other's arms and go for a beer.

Groves' first defence will be against James Obede Toney in order to make amends.

~fornicate I never thought i'd see you metamorph into some weird Steve Bunce clone Terry - great read though......

I bet half you guys reading this know a 'gangster' or some people considered dodgy. I know I do - and i'm not alking about flamingoes gay bar. That doesn't make me a gangster or you does it....

[milpool]

Kenny Anderson v Paul Smith? Yes please!

[Deserter]

I've read a few versions of the story. One or two things stand out, they say the call wasn't made to Groves, the police notified him about it. The call came prior to the fight, but it has only just come to light now the fight is off. So we're dealing with criminals who phone the police to notify them that they're working on a high-profile crime that is going to take place on a specific date (that is no longer in place), at a specific venue and using a specific weapon. Did these chaps sign off the call by giving their full names and addresses?

As for The Sun, the threats pertain to a fight that is no longer taking place, so they felt it was their duty as a pillar of our fine, upstanding society to release this story as it is their civic duty to let people know that they've foiled a crime that had lost its single window of opportunity and now looks unlikely to take place unless the would be shooters manage to a) help smooth the way for Stieglitz-Groves b) get a gun over to Germany c) get past George's tripod wielding 6' 3'', 210lb somewhat deranged best mate d) manage to shoot their target from a ridiculous distance without hitting one of the other two men in the ring e) find a way of preventing Adam 'The Dark Lord' Booth from reading their thoughts and stealing their vital life force using his cosmic mind rays.

Is there any synergy between this news story, Chisora and Haye's recent loving attempt to give the sport a profile boost and the fact that The Sun is desperate to run stories that don't include the words, 'phone hacking', 'corruption', 'Wouldn't it be great if we could smear the grieving parents of this dead kid', 'Oriental trophy wife attacks foam pie wielding nutter while her mummified husband tries to remember how many wars he has started'.

No one is getting shot, stabbed or even punched with a boxing glove in this one. Groves will ditch the British belt, talk about how he is going over to Germany draped in the Union Jack to give British boxing a boost because we have all seen how Chisora single handedly dragged it through the mud while squaring up to an invisible man, who later used ESP to hurl a tripod across a room, it was spooky, and our reaction will be, 'Wow, he's challenging for a world title, that is awesome - I'm stoked. I'm going to book flights and find the world's only non-refundable hotel booking site.'

Anderson will probably fight Paul Smith in a fight that will feature some of the bluntest pre-fight talk of all time, and possibly a riot between the Scottish and Scouse, who will then fall into each other's arms and go for a beer.

Groves' first defence will be against James Obede Toney in order to make amends.

[Deserter]

Oh, and for what it's worth, as someone who works in the media, the story does look like an attempt to divert attention away from Groves' shocking pull-out. The real story should be about the treatment of fans with the 'back injury' story.

[hoop]

He was getting KTFO and he (and his people) knew it.

Ah right....that'll be why he pulled out.....

[hoop]

Oh, and for what it's worth, as someone who works in the media, the story does look like an attempt to divert attention away from Groves' shocking pull-out. The real story should be about the treatment of fans with the 'back injury' story.

exactly how it looks to me.

[forcefraser]

Anderson is an intimidating bloke, no doubt about that.The rumours that he has links to some pretty scary people only serve to heighten this.

Not sure how much truth people can put into these claims about shooting in the ring etc, but something has obviously happened to scare Groves out of the fight. Most likely he knew he was looking at a pasting at the hands of Anderson.

Pasting? Groves was winning this fight, hands down imo.

I`m not so sure about that. On short notice Anderson gave Groves all he could handle for 5 rounds and then ran out of steam in the first fight. It was also stopped a bit early for my liking, although given that Anderson was out of gas, Groves would have got to him anyway.

I would say a fully fit and focused Anderson would be a VERY tough ask for Groves.

[Lenny]

Wouldn't it be jolly nice if Groves beats Stieglitz, Anderson beats Smith for the vacant British title and then they fight for the WBO for Groves first defence?

For lots more money?
With Jeff on the undercard?
And leforge at ringside??

Excellent stuff, this is what will definitely happen.

Although my main concern is for people that really have back problems, I just assume they are trying to get out of fighting someone
People with bad backs need to step up

[yiddo14]

Anderson is an intimidating bloke, no doubt about that.The rumours that he has links to some pretty scary people only serve to heighten this.

Not sure how much truth people can put into these claims about shooting in the ring etc, but something has obviously happened to scare Groves out of the fight. Most likely he knew he was looking at a pasting at the hands of Anderson.

Pasting? Groves was winning this fight, hands down imo.

I`m not so sure about that. On short notice Anderson gave Groves all he could handle for 5 rounds and then ran out of steam in the first fight. It was also stopped a bit early for my liking, although given that Anderson was out of gas, Groves would have got to him anyway.

I would say a fully fit and focused Anderson would be a VERY tough ask for Groves.

Tough ask, perhaps, although I don't subscribe to that. But initially you said pasting and that was never happening.

I thought the stoppage was fine. Anderson wasn't complaining either. Groves has impressed since then and he didn't perform that night against Kenny. If a second fight happens anytime soon I take George to stop him again, in pretty convincing fashion.

[Counter-puncher]

I've read a few versions of the story. One or two things stand out, they say the call wasn't made to Groves, the police notified him about it. The call came prior to the fight, but it has only just come to light now the fight is off. So we're dealing with criminals who phone the police to notify them that they're working on a high-profile crime that is going to take place on a specific date (that is no longer in place), at a specific venue and using a specific weapon. Did these chaps sign off the call by giving their full names and addresses?

As for The Sun, the threats pertain to a fight that is no longer taking place, so they felt it was their duty as a pillar of our fine, upstanding society to release this story as it is their civic duty to let people know that they've foiled a crime that had lost its single window of opportunity and now looks unlikely to take place unless the would be shooters manage to a) help smooth the way for Stieglitz-Groves b) get a gun over to Germany c) get past George's tripod wielding 6' 3'', 210lb somewhat deranged best mate d) manage to shoot their target from a ridiculous distance without hitting one of the other two men in the ring e) find a way of preventing Adam 'The Dark Lord' Booth from reading their thoughts and stealing their vital life force using his cosmic mind rays.

Is there any synergy between this news story, Chisora and Haye's recent loving attempt to give the sport a profile boost and the fact that The Sun is desperate to run stories that don't include the words, 'phone hacking', 'corruption', 'Wouldn't it be great if we could smear the grieving parents of this dead kid', 'Oriental trophy wife attacks foam pie wielding nutter while her mummified husband tries to remember how many wars he has started'.

No one is getting shot, stabbed or even punched with a boxing glove in this one. Groves will ditch the British belt, talk about how he is going over to Germany draped in the Union Jack to give British boxing a boost because we have all seen how Chisora single handedly dragged it through the mud while squaring up to an invisible man, who later used ESP to hurl a tripod across a room, it was spooky, and our reaction will be, 'Wow, he's challenging for a world title, that is awesome - I'm stoked. I'm going to book flights and find the world's only non-refundable hotel booking site.'

Anderson will probably fight Paul Smith in a fight that will feature some of the bluntest pre-fight talk of all time, and possibly a riot between the Scottish and Scouse, who will then fall into each other's arms and go for a beer.

Groves' first defence will be against James Obede Toney in order to make amends.

[Final round]

If true the threat was obviously made to throw Groves off his game they didn't want Anderson getting done over again. Maybe it contributed to the 'injury'.

Anderson v Paul smith would be a decent scrap

[Pat Butcher]

I've read a few versions of the story. One or two things stand out, they say the call wasn't made to Groves, the police notified him about it. The call came prior to the fight, but it has only just come to light now the fight is off. So we're dealing with criminals who phone the police to notify them that they're working on a high-profile crime that is going to take place on a specific date (that is no longer in place), at a specific venue and using a specific weapon. Did these chaps sign off the call by giving their full names and addresses?

As for The Sun, the threats pertain to a fight that is no longer taking place, so they felt it was their duty as a pillar of our fine, upstanding society to release this story as it is their civic duty to let people know that they've foiled a crime that had lost its single window of opportunity and now looks unlikely to take place unless the would be shooters manage to a) help smooth the way for Stieglitz-Groves b) get a gun over to Germany c) get past George's tripod wielding 6' 3'', 210lb somewhat deranged best mate d) manage to shoot their target from a ridiculous distance without hitting one of the other two men in the ring e) find a way of preventing Adam 'The Dark Lord' Booth from reading their thoughts and stealing their vital life force using his cosmic mind rays.

Is there any synergy between this news story, Chisora and Haye's recent loving attempt to give the sport a profile boost and the fact that The Sun is desperate to run stories that don't include the words, 'phone hacking', 'corruption', 'Wouldn't it be great if we could smear the grieving parents of this dead kid', 'Oriental trophy wife attacks foam pie wielding nutter while her mummified husband tries to remember how many wars he has started'.

No one is getting shot, stabbed or even punched with a boxing glove in this one. Groves will ditch the British belt, talk about how he is going over to Germany draped in the Union Jack to give British boxing a boost because we have all seen how Chisora single handedly dragged it through the mud while squaring up to an invisible man, who later used ESP to hurl a tripod across a room, it was spooky, and our reaction will be, 'Wow, he's challenging for a world title, that is awesome - I'm stoked. I'm going to book flights and find the world's only non-refundable hotel booking site.'

Anderson will probably fight Paul Smith in a fight that will feature some of the bluntest pre-fight talk of all time, and possibly a riot between the Scottish and Scouse, who will then fall into each other's arms and go for a beer.

Groves' first defence will be against James Obede Toney in order to make amends.

[Jeff Thomas]

If true the threat was obviously made to throw Groves off his game they didn't want Anderson getting done over again. Maybe it contributed to the 'injury'.

Anderson v Paul smith would be a decent scrap

I promise you no phone call was needed- a lucky punch after a competitive opener against smith and a glorified spar against degale hasn't changed groves into the wrecking machine people make out. He's good I sung his praises no end before the Anderson fight and will do so once their situation is resolved but I'm no fan now.

Very let down as a fan and a boxer on the card. I can see why he's done it but it's no consolation to kenny who worked his ass off and spent 7-8 weeks away from his family. Frankly it's disgusting and yet another poor show from booth and co who I used to have a great deal of respect for.

Boxing sickens me at times it really does.

[Jeff Thomas]

If true the threat was obviously made to throw Groves off his game they didn't want Anderson getting done over again. Maybe it contributed to the 'injury'.

Anderson v Paul smith would be a decent scrap

I promise you no phone call was needed- a lucky punch after a competitive opener against smith and a glorified spar against degale hasn't changed groves into the wrecking machine people make out. He's good I sung his praises no end before the Anderson fight and will do so once their situation is resolved but I'm no fan now.

Very let down as a fan and a boxer on the card. I can see why he's done it but it's no consolation to kenny who worked his ass off and spent 7-8 weeks away from his family. Frankly it's disgusting and yet another poor show from booth and co who I used to have a great deal of respect for.

Boxing sickens me at times it really does.

[Final round]

If true the threat was obviously made to throw Groves off his game they didn't want Anderson getting done over again. Maybe it contributed to the 'injury'.

Anderson v Paul smith would be a decent scrap

I promise you no phone call was needed- a lucky punch after a competitive opener against smith and a glorified spar against degale hasn't changed groves into the wrecking machine people make out. He's good I sung his praises no end before the Anderson fight and will do so once their situation is resolved but I'm no fan now.

Very let down as a fan and a boxer on the card. I can see why he's done it but it's no consolation to kenny who worked his ass off and spent 7-8 weeks away from his family. Frankly it's disgusting and yet another poor show from booth and co who I used to have a great deal of respect for.

Boxing sickens me at times it really does.

I was looking forward to watching you take on Sam Webb, hope you get a chance like that again soon and you're rightfully pissed off but that right hook on Paul Smiths chin was a beautiful thing, a result of work in the gym more than luck perfectly timed and pin-point accurate, I think if your left hook in Prizefighter had been an inch or so lower he wouldn't have got up.
Groves pulled the rug from under DeGale by boxing him, they were the right tactics.

[Dan Dares]

If true the threat was obviously made to throw Groves off his game they didn't want Anderson getting done over again. Maybe it contributed to the 'injury'.

Anderson v Paul smith would be a decent scrap

Thats one way of looking at it. Wouldn't it be very sad indeed if the real story went like this....

"After a bit of interference, the WBO thing with Steiglitz looks like a go-oer, so there's going to be a back injury in a few days. F**k Anderson and the undercard off, it wasn't going to gross much anyway - not a lot of TV money about when trying to create a circular economy. If it starts to look bad, give some Scotch looney a bottle of firewater to ring the old bill up, tell them they hate english c***s, and that Groves is going to cop it in or out the ring on Saturday. Then tell Max about the call, get it in the Sun. That'll muddy the waters a bit, especially considering Anderson's previous, and the ability of your average Sun reader to tell shit from shinola"

Of course, I'm not saying this happened at all in any way shape or form.