Gatti/Mayweather @ 130 ?

[AngryGoon38]

I was just scoping out the 130 portions of they're carears. Was thinking about this beforehand at work today and how much better of a fight it would have been had it able to have been. Gatti was obviously way past it,and also technically,a ways well out of his ideal weightclass when they fought at 140 in 05. Gatti was a Really Good Jr Lw,and Floyd,probably should be considered one of the all time greats at 130 but i could see this one being a Great matchup. A Legitimate competitive fight at 130 with Gatti having somewhere in the range of a solid 25 to 40 percent chance of pulling it off. It would be one of those types of matchups where Gatti pulling it off would'nt have been a mega upset,only a minor upset imo.
Gatti's two wins vs Patterson were tremendous wins. He was quite impressive at 130. Watch the Talifiero fight. He was quite fast and explosive at that weight.

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Its official...I really have woken up in the Twilight Zone.

Either that, or Trolling was granted an International Day of Recognition.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Same as at 140, except for a possible early ending. Gatti couldn't compete with any elite fighter in any weight class.

[The End]

Not only was Floyd better at 130 but he was a power puncher . He would've done Gatti the same or worse.

[Seamus]

Gatti and great matchup should never be used in the same sentence.

[dempseyfire]

Mayweather KO2 Gatti.

[gilgamesh]

I think the fight would be virtually the same as the fight we saw at 140. Considering Gatti's defense was leakier, it may have been a shorter night for him.

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[gilgamesh]

This thread was started 72 hrs too soon.

What does that mean?

[AngryGoon38]

Wow. I guess all's i can say is Geeez. Soooory !

Its just that when i saw Gatti fight Taliafero at 130 back in 1994,i thought,Wow,this kid's got the goods !
He was,like i said,Fast,explosive,bright eyed,hungry,energetic,mega enthusiastic,..And Taliefero was a forminiable opponent,2 losses in like 28 fights at the time. And Gatti continued to get better and better and more resiliant over the next few years of his True Prime. What else do i say,or how else do i put it,geeez !

I mean,come on !,for real !,You's actually see a correlation of styled matchup credentials evening out when comparing a 1997 version of gatti to a 05 version !? Seriously,Wow,...Just Wow ! Tracy Harris Patterson was a freakin Beast at 122,and 130 ! Gatti boxed beautifully and slugged his way out of trouble when necessary. He had that certain credential factor package going for him at 130. If you think not then you didnt watch his past fights pre Ward battles in the 140 division.

Yes,Floyd was quite a banger but so was freakin Gatti Man ! Yes Floyd was fast but so too was Freakin Gatti Man !
We're talkin about a hypothetical matchup between a 97 version of Gatti vs a 01 Version of Floyd and you's are saying Floyd by Ko in 2 ?! Holy Freakin Wow of Wows is all i can say.

You guys are Amazingly critical in zoning out into negative critical analysis,think it over just a bit more before these asinine conclusions,Geeeez !

If you guys are gonna continue the critical thinking mayhem in overdrive then all's i gotta say is,..."You's are Nnnnnuts ! 8)

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Come one, yous, and get with the Gatti love

Seriously, Mayweather could awaken in the middle of the night, stumble into an arena, and sleep-box his way through Gatti, Goon.

[AngryGoon38]

Come one, yous, and get with the Gatti love

Seriously, Mayweather could awaken in the middle of the night, stumble into an arena, and sleep-box his way through Gatti, Goon.

Read my previous post again Irene,i had to make typo corrections and such and clarify myself more abundantly.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Spelling is the least of the issues with your post. Gatti couldn't win one round against Mayweather if they fought 50 times.

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Spelling is the least of the issues with your post. Gatti couldn't win one round against Mayweather if they fought 50 times.

You know, one of the funniest posts I've ever read was that Gatti was winning until the knockdown.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Spelling is the least of the issues with your post. Gatti couldn't win one round against Mayweather if they fought 50 times.

You know, one of the funniest posts I've ever read was that Gatti was winning until the knockdown.

Was that from GoonAngry83? The only surprising thing about that fight for me was that Arturo was scared. It was astounding how many posters gave him a chance to win. I knew he was like a 5 year old when his pop pulled out the belt.

[Ambling Alp]

Mayweather KO2 Gatti.

Obviously Mayweather was in a different class of ability than Gatti. However, if Gatti managed to go 6 rounds at that stage of his career against Mayweather, than almost surely would last a lot longer than 2 rounds when he was much younger.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Gatti was on the best run of his career at that point. Floyd was a beast at 130.

[AngryGoon38]

Mayweather KO2 Gatti.

Obviously Mayweather was in a different class of ability than Gatti. However, if Gatti managed to go 6 rounds at that stage of his career against Mayweather, than almost surely would last a lot longer than 2 rounds when he was much younger.

Finally ! Someone with some sense !

Exactly. How the F#@% does Mayweather ko him in two, and how would this not be more competitive at 130 where Gatti was in his true weightclass and prime !?

Saad,You DID mean that Gatti was on his best run while at 130 right ? Coz,At 140,he just wasnt at all the same.His style and everything about em became quite altered in all the wrong ways beginning with the Robinson fights at 135 in 1998.
Its like he didnt train right anymore. Like he became too lazy to really truly be able to box effectively when needed once he wasnt at 130 anymore. He tried too much to just be a slugger brawler once he left the 130 weightclass division.

Gatti was definately the proverbial complete package at 130 though.Not saying he was great at anything but he was pretty damn good at pretty much all the aspects of boxing fundementals and had plenty of pop on the punches,resiliance,stamina,speed,skills and basically,it was just definately there while at 130,but just not there anymore once he moved up to 135,and especially not there at 140. :geek2:

[SaadOffTheDeck]

His best run was at 140, he was a better fighter then. At 130 he was a slugger with a massive size advantage over most foes. Even then he wasn't able to compete with Angel manfredy. Who mayweather dusted in, ummm, yeah that's right- TWO ROUNDS.

[AngryGoon38]

His best run was at 140, he was a better fighter then. At 130 he was a slugger with a massive size advantage over most foes. Even then he wasn't able to compete with Angel manfredy. Who mayweather dusted in, ummm, yeah that's right- TWO ROUNDS.

Saad,you made a point but went off track in order to do so. The whole point of this thread is a hypothetical at 130,not 135.
Manfredy beat Gatti at 135. It just doesnt quite count as a comparitive point on the behalf of you're analysis/evaluation of results against common opponents. Again i emphasize,Gatti just wasnt the same anymore once he completely moved out of the 130 division. Had he been able to stay at that weightclass,there would've been alot more achievements on his part imho,and a hypothetical match between a 1997 version of Gatti and a 01 version of Floyd would've been a heckuva fight regardless of the end result. I totally dont see Floyd just plowing right through Gatti at 130,135 maybe sort of,but certainly not at 130. Gatti's wins over Patterson and Ruelas were very impressive and proved the legitimacy of his capabilities as a total package,again i emphasize,at 130.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

The only thing off track is thinking Gatti could compete with any elite fighter at any weight.

[dempseyfire]

Mayweather KO2 Gatti.

Obviously Mayweather was in a different class of ability than Gatti. However, if Gatti managed to go 6 rounds at that stage of his career against Mayweather, than almost surely would last a lot longer than 2 rounds when he was much younger.

Easy. Gatti's defense was worse at 130, and Floyd's power was much bigger at 130 (before his hands became a chronic issue)

[Ambling Alp]

Oh come on. His defense when they fought was worse than it was when he much younger. He never got stopped at 130. He was an old 33 who had taken a lot of punishment when they fought. Mayweather hit him almost at will and it still lasted 6 rounds.
Logically, it would probably last longer if Gatti was close to his prime. It probably goes to the later rounds, maybe the distance.

Lets get real; Mayweather had a lot more talent and would be a heavy favorite. However Gatti had a good chin and a lot guts. The odds of it going only two rounds are pretty remote. You certainly would not bet on it.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

two rounds or twelve rounds is pretty irrelevant to the thread. However long it lasts Gatti wouldn't land a significant punch.

[dempseyfire]

Oh come on. His defense when they fought was worse than it was when he much younger. He never got stopped at 130. He was an old 33 who had taken a lot of punishment when they fought. Mayweather hit him almost at will and it still lasted 6 rounds.
Logically, it would probably last longer if Gatti was close to his prime. It probably goes to the later rounds, maybe the distance.

Lets get real; Mayweather had a lot more talent and would be a heavy favorite. However Gatti had a good chin and a lot guts. The odds of it going only two rounds are pretty remote. You certainly would not bet on it.

I never said "I'd bet" on him Gatti not lasting 2 rounds, although I can see it being concievable.

Main point is, I don't think it would be any more competitive than their actual fight was, and Gatti would get sliced to ribbons. Gatti was just not on that level, case closed.