Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

[mcato]

a poor fight saw lowe get stopped by jamie ball mids title in 7 rounds. ochieng should b defending english title against ball or nasser al harbi who fought an eliminator was a tec draw after 3 completed rounds nas cut in the 4th round was a close fight( i had nas 2-1 up). either fighter should get a shot at ochieng.

Ball is getting married, so it should be Nasser, we could have defending against Ball, what was the point of an eliminator if not.

Saf said Nasser won every round another guy said it was 2-1 on Eastside boxing blog it said ball & Nasser even so lets see it on you tube. Saf you must have the links to get it up on youtube?

[safeerah]

a poor fight saw lowe get stopped by jamie ball mids title in 7 rounds. ochieng should b defending english title against ball or nasser al harbi who fought an eliminator was a tec draw after 3 completed rounds nas cut in the 4th round was a close fight( i had nas 2-1 up). either fighter should get a shot at ochieng.

Ball is getting married, so it should be Nasser, we could have defending against Ball, what was the point of an eliminator if not.

Saf said Nasser won every round another guy said it was 2-1 on Eastside boxing blog it said ball & Nasser even so lets see it on you tube. Saf you must have the links to get it up on youtube?

Mcato who decides a fight you, me or the Referee ? The ref decides it, and he had it 3-0 to Nasser on the night and told us Nasser was also winning the last round before the cut, if they had let the fight go past 4 completed rounds and it was stopped Nasser would have won on the score cards anyway.

[safeerah]

Ball is getting married, so it should be Nasser, we could have defending against Ball, what was the point of an eliminator if not.

Saf said Nasser won every round another guy said it was 2-1 on Eastside boxing blog it said ball & Nasser even so lets see it on you tube. Saf you must have the links to get it up on youtube?

Mcato who decides a fight you, me or the Referee ? The ref decides it, and he had it 3-0 to Nasser on the night and told us Nasser was also winning the last round before the cut, if they had let the fight go past 4 completed rounds and it was stopped Nasser would have won on the score cards anyway.

I am waiting for it to be put on

[jonp]

Ball is getting married, so it should be Nasser, we could have defending against Ball, what was the point of an eliminator if not.

Saf said Nasser won every round another guy said it was 2-1 on Eastside boxing blog it said ball & Nasser even so lets see it on you tube. Saf you must have the links to get it up on youtube?

Mcato who decides a fight you, me or the Referee ? The ref decides it, and he had it 3-0 to Nasser on the night and told us Nasser was also winning the last round before the cut, if they had let the fight go past 4 completed rounds and it was stopped Nasser would have won on the score cards anyway.

Thats true about the first three rounds not sure about the 4th but defo been told that Mr oconner had given all three rounds by a source that woul know

[safeerah]

Saf said Nasser won every round another guy said it was 2-1 on Eastside boxing blog it said ball & Nasser even so lets see it on you tube. Saf you must have the links to get it up on youtube?

Mcato who decides a fight you, me or the Referee ? The ref decides it, and he had it 3-0 to Nasser on the night and told us Nasser was also winning the last round before the cut, if they had let the fight go past 4 completed rounds and it was stopped Nasser would have won on the score cards anyway.

I don't know why this is such an issue, we all know who would have won, the fact they don't want a rematch and the comments that have come out of the camp, just re-inforce it.

Thats true about the first three rounds not sure about the 4th but defo been told that Mr oconner had given all three rounds by a source that woul know

[mcato]

Mcato who decides a fight you, me or the Referee ? The ref decides it, and he had it 3-0 to Nasser on the night and told us Nasser was also winning the last round before the cut, if they had let the fight go past 4 completed rounds and it was stopped Nasser would have won on the score cards anyway.

I don't know why this is such an issue, we all know who would have won, the fact they don't want a rematch and the comments that have come out of the camp, just re-inforce it.

Thats true about the first three rounds not sure about the 4th but defo been told that Mr oconner had given all three rounds by a source that woul know

So Saf when are we all gonna see this fight on Youtube?

[damianhucker1]

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[mcato]

Latest undercard update

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This should be Ochieng Vs Rose

[safeerah]

Latest undercard update

http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=638638

This should be Ochieng Vs Rose

both should be defending their titles to better fighters or fight each other and free up the English title.

[mcato]

Latest undercard update

http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=638638

This should be Ochieng Vs Rose

both should be defending their titles to better fighters or fight each other and free up the English title.

Saf don't you sleep. Hats off to you. You are the most active person on Box Rec's Threads! and I think you are mentioned on every thread.

Don't worry Nas will get his Chance!

[safeerah]

a poor fight saw lowe get stopped by jamie ball mids title in 7 rounds. ochieng should b defending english title against ball or nasser al harbi who fought an eliminator was a tec draw after 3 completed rounds nas cut in the 4th round was a close fight( i had nas 2-1 up). either fighter should get a shot at ochieng.

Ball is getting married, so it should be Nasser, we could have defending against Ball, what was the point of an eliminator if not.

Saf said Nasser won every round another guy said it was 2-1 on Eastside boxing blog it said ball & Nasser even so lets see it on you tube. Saf you must have the links to get it up on youtube?

Why do you talk such crap, show us the one who said it was a draw, nobody would be so stupid, surely.

[safeerah]

This should be Ochieng Vs Rose

both should be defending their titles to better fighters or fight each other and free up the English title.

Saf don't you sleep. Hats off to you. You are the most active person on Box Rec's Threads! and I think you are mentioned on every thread.

Don't worry Nas will get his Chance!

I think that belongs to you, but I have to give it to you for trying to sell Ochieng V Lowe.

[mcato]

both should be defending their titles to better fighters or fight each other and free up the English title.

Saf don't you sleep. Hats off to you. You are the most active person on Box Rec's Threads! and I think you are mentioned on every thread.

Don't worry Nas will get his Chance!

I think that belongs to you, but I have to give it to you for trying to sell Ochieng V Lowe.

Lets be honest we both try and sell our boxers and we both think our boxer will beat each other's boxers and we both think our boxers are talented and should have British title fights!

[safeerah]

Saf don't you sleep. Hats off to you. You are the most active person on Box Rec's Threads! and I think you are mentioned on every thread.

Don't worry Nas will get his Chance!

I think that belongs to you, but I have to give it to you for trying to sell Ochieng V Lowe.

Lets be honest we both try and sell our boxers and we both think our boxer will beat each other's boxers and we both think our boxers are talented and should have British title fights!

I aint disagreeing with you both are talented kids, but Lowe is not the same kind of test as Portman or Mutley

[mcato]

I think that belongs to you, but I have to give it to you for trying to sell Ochieng V Lowe.

Lets be honest we both try and sell our boxers and we both think our boxer will beat each other's boxers and we both think our boxers are talented and should have British title fights!

I aint disagreeing with you both are talented kids, but Lowe is not the same kind of test as Portman or Mutley

Eddie Hearns was looking for a local Lad from Nottingham to fight Erick, he really didn't have to get Erick a fight but Erick wants to stay active and lets not forget Saf, Lowe is a 2 weight Champion!

[safeerah]

Lets be honest we both try and sell our boxers and we both think our boxer will beat each other's boxers and we both think our boxers are talented and should have British title fights!

I aint disagreeing with you both are talented kids, but Lowe is not the same kind of test as Portman or Mutley

Eddie Hearns was looking for a local Lad from Nottingham to fight Erick, he really didn't have to get Erick a fight but Erick wants to stay active and lets not forget Saf, Lowe is a 2 weight Champion!

Will have to stay away from him then ?

[maley1984]

2 weight champ lol hav u seen his record 10(2)-6(2)-1 hardly a record deserving of an english title fight. he has won only won 3 fights against a lad with a positive records . there r plenty of lads who r better ranked than lowe who could hav took the fight. good match making another victory to ochieng

[mcato]

2 weight champ lol hav u seen his record 10(2)-6(2)-1 hardly a record deserving of an english title fight. he has won 1 fight against a lad with a positive record and that was 4-3. there r plenty of lads who r better ranked than lowe who could hav took the fight. good match making another victory to ochieng

But he is a 2 Weight Champion....Isn't he? lol

[maley1984]

2 weight champ lol hav u seen his record 10(2)-6(2)-1 hardly a record deserving of an english title fight. he has won 1 fight against a lad with a positive record and that was 4-3. there r plenty of lads who r better ranked than lowe who could hav took the fight. good match making another victory to ochieng

But he is a 2 Weight Champion....Isn't he? lol

he mite b a 2 weight masters champ but his record is very poor and like saf said lowe was never in the mix wen eliminators went out al harbi v ball to fight english champ.
wats wrong with the following lads with good records.
ball 13-0-2 (stopped lowe in mids title fight)
al harbi ( fought ball in eliminator tech draw due to a cut) 13-0-1
costello 10-0-1
smith 9-0-1
doran 10-0
selkirk 8-0
all ranked above lowe and all undefeated

[mcato]

2 weight champ lol hav u seen his record 10(2)-6(2)-1 hardly a record deserving of an english title fight. he has won 1 fight against a lad with a positive record and that was 4-3. there r plenty of lads who r better ranked than lowe who could hav took the fight. good match making another victory to ochieng

But he is a 2 Weight Champion....Isn't he? lol

he mite b a 2 weight masters champ but his record is very poor and like saf said lowe was never in the mix wen eliminators went out al harbi v ball to fight english champ.
wats wrong with the following lads with good records.
ball 13-0-2 (stopped lowe in mids title fight)
al harbi ( fought ball in eliminator tech draw drew to cut) 13-0-1
costello 10-0-1
smith 9-0-1
doran 10-0
selkirk 8-0
all ranked above lowe and all undefeated

There could be an argument for each of these fighters. Some of them due to promoters will not fight on certain bills like Selkirk and Smith Doran is going through his personal issues and has fought for ages costello has really fought anyone, but when you look at the likes of Brian Rose fighting Carslaw who loss his last fight in a British eliminator that is crazy and that fight will be a main event on Sky. Hearn will not let Erick and a 1st defence of his belt away from home in the challenging boxers den to a top 5 contender

[maley1984]

But he is a 2 Weight Champion....Isn't he? lol

he mite b a 2 weight masters champ but his record is very poor and like saf said lowe was never in the mix wen eliminators went out al harbi v ball to fight english champ.
wats wrong with the following lads with good records.
ball 13-0-2 (stopped lowe in mids title fight)
al harbi ( fought ball in eliminator tech draw drew to cut) 13-0-1
costello 10-0-1
smith 9-0-1
doran 10-0
selkirk 8-0
all ranked above lowe and all undefeated

There could be an argument for each of these fighters. Some of them due to promoters will not fight on certain bills like Selkirk and Smith Doran is going through his personal issues and has fought for ages costello has really fought anyone, but when you look at the likes of Brian Rose fighting Carslaw who loss his last fight in a British eliminator that is crazy and that fight will be a main event on Sky. Hearn will not let Erick and a 1st defence of his belt away from home in the challenging boxers den to a top 5 contender

the only reason lowe got the fight was cause his a nottingham lad. no disrespect to lowe but he shouldnt b in this fight. i saw him fight ball showed great heart but was outclassed and stopped in 8 rounds ( i think it was). ochieng will stop stop him late on imo. personaly i think its a disgrace carlsaw fighting rose, hall won a elim and gets another against webb (tough fight) carlsaw lost and gets a shot. ochieng should b in line to fight rose why not try to make that fight

[mcato]

he mite b a 2 weight masters champ but his record is very poor and like saf said lowe was never in the mix wen eliminators went out al harbi v ball to fight english champ.
wats wrong with the following lads with good records.
ball 13-0-2 (stopped lowe in mids title fight)
al harbi ( fought ball in eliminator tech draw drew to cut) 13-0-1
costello 10-0-1
smith 9-0-1
doran 10-0
selkirk 8-0
all ranked above lowe and all undefeated

There could be an argument for each of these fighters. Some of them due to promoters will not fight on certain bills like Selkirk and Smith Doran is going through his personal issues and has fought for ages costello has really fought anyone, but when you look at the likes of Brian Rose fighting Carslaw who loss his last fight in a British eliminator that is crazy and that fight will be a main event on Sky. Hearn will not let Erick and a 1st defence of his belt away from home in the challenging boxers den to a top 5 contender

the only reason lowe got the fight was cause his a nottingham lad. no disrespect to lowe but he shouldnt b in this fight. i saw him fight ball showed great heart but was outclassed and stopped in 8 rounds ( i think it was). ochieng will stop stop him late on imo. personaly i think its a disgrace carlsaw fighting rose, hall won a elim and gets another against webb (tough fight) carlsaw lost and gets a shot. ochieng should b in line to fight rose why not try to make that fight

Different promoters Sky deals and all the rest. You see Maloney hasnt got too many Champions at the moment and in order to be on Sky he has to have minimum British title top of the bill so he wouldnt chance Ochieng (matchroom) fight Rose and taking the belt off him he would have his own fighters fighting each other or someone he could offer a contract to if they beat his fighter

[maley1984]

There could be an argument for each of these fighters. Some of them due to promoters will not fight on certain bills like Selkirk and Smith Doran is going through his personal issues and has fought for ages costello has really fought anyone, but when you look at the likes of Brian Rose fighting Carslaw who loss his last fight in a British eliminator that is crazy and that fight will be a main event on Sky. Hearn will not let Erick and a 1st defence of his belt away from home in the challenging boxers den to a top 5 contender

the only reason lowe got the fight was cause his a nottingham lad. no disrespect to lowe but he shouldnt b in this fight. i saw him fight ball showed great heart but was outclassed and stopped in 8 rounds ( i think it was). ochieng will stop stop him late on imo. personaly i think its a disgrace carlsaw fighting rose, hall won a elim and gets another against webb (tough fight) carlsaw lost and gets a shot. ochieng should b in line to fight rose why not try to make that fight

Different promoters Sky deals and all the rest. You see Maloney hasnt got too many Champions at the moment and in order to be on Sky he has to have minimum British title top of the bill so he wouldnt chance Ochieng (matchroom) fight Rose and taking the belt off him he would have his own fighters fighting each other or someone he could offer a contract to if they beat his fighter

wasnt price v big john mc an english title fight and that topped a show live on sky. but i can see where your coming from regarding the promotors and keeping the title in house

[mcato]

the only reason lowe got the fight was cause his a nottingham lad. no disrespect to lowe but he shouldnt b in this fight. i saw him fight ball showed great heart but was outclassed and stopped in 8 rounds ( i think it was). ochieng will stop stop him late on imo. personaly i think its a disgrace carlsaw fighting rose, hall won a elim and gets another against webb (tough fight) carlsaw lost and gets a shot. ochieng should b in line to fight rose why not try to make that fight

Different promoters Sky deals and all the rest. You see Maloney hasnt got too many Champions at the moment and in order to be on Sky he has to have minimum British title top of the bill so he wouldnt chance Ochieng (matchroom) fight Rose and taking the belt off him he would have his own fighters fighting each other or someone he could offer a contract to if they beat his fighter

wasnt price v big john mc an english title fight and that topped a show live on sky. but i can see where your coming from regarding the promotors and keeping the title in house

History has shown that well known Heavyweights can be shown on Sky for small belts like the English belt because Price was an Olympian and we know John Mc is or was a Maloney fighter anyway. Look at Warren. Beacause of allegedly his fighters continue to fight nobodys. This is all to do with TV deals it shapes boxing and football and most sports nowadays, dont you understand?

[maley1984]

Different promoters Sky deals and all the rest. You see Maloney hasnt got too many Champions at the moment and in order to be on Sky he has to have minimum British title top of the bill so he wouldnt chance Ochieng (matchroom) fight Rose and taking the belt off him he would have his own fighters fighting each other or someone he could offer a contract to if they beat his fighter

wasnt price v big john mc an english title fight and that topped a show live on sky. but i can see where your coming from regarding the promotors and keeping the title in house

History has shown that well known Heavyweights can be shown on Sky for small belts like the English belt because Price was an Olympian and we know John Mc is or was a Maloney fighter anyway. Look at Warren. Beacause of Allegedly Channel his fighters continue to fight nobodys. This is all to do with TV deals it shapes boxing and football and most sports nowadays, dont you understand?

i told u i did was just saying that fight topped a show. and i dont subscribe to his channel because of the fights his been making r very poor or shows r pulled days b4( i can understand injuries happen but quite a few shows hav been pulled)