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USAB woes

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Where do I start, I have been following this blog for a while but have only been lurking. So I decided it’s time to post. I’ve been around USAB on different levels for some time now and I’m fed up with what has been going on and watching the downfall of amateur boxing in the US mostly due to incompetence at the top levels. Hal Adonis is like your crazy uncle, he’s nuts. He and Gary Pliner and the rest of the crew are quickly seeing the end of USAB. Mark my words, the USOC will decertify USAB right after the Olympics and will start a new NGB (national governing body). Barkowski will quickly find another job with another NGB because the USOC take care of their own. Where is Eric Parthen? He is with another NGB. USA will once again be lucky to win one medal with Abdulla as coach, more on that later, and the USOC will use that as the excuse to decertify plus they are tired of crazy Hal also. So maybe the GG’s and SG’s pulling out of USAB is not a bad thing. The GG’s always thought they should be the NGB. Now I am not a big fan of the attitude that some people who only work GG events have towards USAB but I like Jim Beasley as a person and would take him over Adonis any day.
So what’s so bad about crazy Hal….he surrounded himself with people who do not know anything about boxing outside of the US. They have no international experience. That’s OK if you are only running your LBC. In ’09 Millman and USAB conducted a national search for a new national coach to get us past the debacle of the ’08 US Olympic team and Dan Campbell. I heard that over 95 coaches applied and the final two were Ed Weichers a college coach and Joe Zanders. I don’t know Weichers that well but his team the Air Force Academy has won the most national championships of any school in the NCBA including this year. I’ve known Zanders for years and he is a nice guy and on paper he looks good but how many boxers has he taken from novice to national champ? I don’t think he has any. His LBC and region are one of the top producers of national champs but was Joe the personal coach of any other than standing in as their coach at nationals because he runs his LBC? From what I have heard from good sources of the national coach search was that Millman wanted Zanders but when they had the final interview, it wasn’t close. I was told that Millman and the USOC person in on the interview and the rest of the group said that Weichers was the guy they should hire. So when Adonis ran for election, he promised everybody he talked to that he would take care of them. He told me that if I voted for him, he would assign me to coach a national team but I didn’t even have a vote. Adonis wanted Zanders and right away after he gets elected, he removes Weichers and puts in Zanders. He supposedly did another national search but do you think the coaches who just went through it a year before would submit their names again. Everybody knew he was going to give it to Zanders.
So why isn’t Zanders the Olympic coach? From what I hear, he wasn’t doing the paperwork that the USOC wanted, the team did terrible at the worlds and Pan Am Games so they said he has to go. Adonis wanted Israel Acosta who by all accounts is an excellent coach but he’s not the right guy for the head coach because you need somebody who can speak the language well and be a good spokesperson, etc This is where Weichers would have been good. He’s a teacher and college coach and coming from a military school, he is used to discipline something Campbell was not too good at. He could have been the Coach K of USA boxing. Coaches I know who dealt with him in camps tell me he was good with the boxers and was doing a good job of working with the personal coaches, something that hurt Campbell. Boxers I talked to also said good things about him. So now who do we have? First I heard Terry Edwards from England but that would have gone over like a lead balloon with USAB coaches. So now I hear we are getting a retread Abdulla. Great, how many medals did USAB win with him? Andre Ward but that was because of his personal coach and in ’08, Abdulla had a boxer win the trials but he didn’t even qualify for the Olympics at the worlds or continental qualifiers. Abdulla was part of the coaching staff in ’08 and we bring him back? Wow. That team did real good at the worlds in Chicago and come back from Beijing withone bronze. Has he ever taken a boxer from novice to national champion? I doubt it as most of his boxers come to him with experience. What happened to the days when the US Olympic team had 3-4 Army boxers and they won gold medals? He wasn’t coaching then. Heck, his team got beat in the Armed Forces championships this year by the Marines lead by Jesse Revello who was an assistant Olympic coach in ’96. Maybe he should be the Olympic coach. He was one of the Army coaches when they had good teams. I also hear Abdulla wants Andy Smith on his staff. Really? Is he even a level 3 coach let alone a level 4? He can’t be a level 4 coach unless somebody just blessed him and said “You are now a level 4 son, go forward”. Tell me about all of the national champs he has trained? Wow, it just keeps getting better. Another winner they have in there is Gloria Peek who never had a glove on and never trained a national champ. She got trips as a coach because of Dan Campbell because she took his job when he moved to Colorado Springs to be the national coach and now people think she actually knows something about boxing. :witzend: No wonder other countries are laughing at the downfall of USAB. Who will be the team manager? Somebody like Joe Smith who had only been a manager once before the Olympics? Joe is a nice guy but he had no experience. You need somebody in there that knows all about international amateur boxing and knows who the players in AIBA are. Adonis will probably put his buddy Pliner in there.
One more before I stop, look at the last nationals and see who the referee was for every bout a Michael King boxer had. I was told again by a good source that King demanded that only two ref’s work his boxers bouts. It would easy enough to check. Low and behold, his super heavy wins by one point in the finals. Who was the ref, who were the judges? I heard one official was not happy that only certain refs worked King’s boxers bouts and filled a grievance with the USOC but they won’t do anything because then King would be mad and take his ball, er I mean money and go home. Or maybe the USOC is just keeping that in their pocket for when they want to decertify USAB. Stay tuned.
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wow basheer as head coach and andy smith of tennesee as the assisant lol good luck usa lmao
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Another winner they have in there is Gloria Peek who never had a glove on and never trained a national champ. She got trips as a coach because of Dan Campbell because she took his job when he moved to Colorado Springs to be the national coach and now people think she actually knows something about boxing.
You need to do your research on Gloria. She has been coaching for at least 25 years, if not longer. She's trained many elite boxers - she started Steven Stokes before he went in the Marines and boxed on the All Marine Team - among others.
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I have to agree that Hal is off his rocker. Did anybody read “InsideBoxing.com”? It has an article about a fund raiser for USAB in LA with boxing celebrities like Holyfield and Layla Ali. Hal gets the microphone and starts going on about how a female member on the board and other women boxers have been raped. That is not the time or place to be talking about that. A person I know that was there told me that everybody just got quite and could not believe what he was saying. He said that Hal kept going on and on and people started to ignore him and were talking among themselves and Hal says real loud for everybody to SUT UP, he has the mike and if they want to talk to wait their turn.
Hal really screwed up the coaching situation with USAB. I came on the last coach and international task force for USAB under Millman in ’09 when the national coach position was advertised. As the OP of this thread said, there were 95 applicants. They were narrowed down to 10 and those 10 coaches were brought into Colorado Springs to be observed working camps that we had for boxers. The top two were interviewed at the nationals in Denver. Weichers was chosen as the best candidate and was named the national coach. Hal gets elected and removes Weichers and puts in Zanders. He was told he can’t do that without board approval. So he advertised again and only 2 other people applied so then he could name Zanders as coach. The USOC said Zanders had to go and now with less than 100 days to the Olympics, we don’t have a national coach and no official announcement on who the Olympic coach is going to be. That does not seem to be the best way to run an organization. I believe the board at this point of Hals term as President, they are supposed to have a vote of confidence. It is time for them to vote that they have no confidence before he does more damage to USAB.
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I just went to http://insideboxing.com and the first article says "USOC Has No Choice But To Intervene As Hal Adonis Declines
May 2, 2012 IB The reign of USA Boxing President Hal Adonis will apparently come to an end with his latest comments detailed in a The New Yorker magazine article due for release Monday May 7, 2012, giving USOC (United States Olympic Committee) Officials no other alternative.
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Well it's about time we get rid of this fool. He has hurt the organization enough. About the only thing he did good was write monthly newsletters but other than that, he is bad news.
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T
he USOC said Zanders had to go
Jim - was that because of his mentorship of Ron Simms?

As to Hal and Anthony - sounds like nothing has changed. :cry:
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boxmel wrote:T
he USOC said Zanders had to go
Jim - was that because of his mentorship of Ron Simms?
Anything I would say as to why they said he had to go would be hearsay. I just heard they were not happy with him.
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http://insideboxing.com/?p=8451
Adonis Claims Comments Taken ‘Out of Context’


May 4, 2012


IB-May4, 2012 - USA Boxing President Hal Adonis has gone on the defensive suggesting comments made by him both during a fundraiser held in Beverly Hills, California, and when interviewed by Ariel Levy for an article in The New Yorker magazine due for release this coming Monday May 7th were ‘taken out of context’, our USOC now asking for Adonis’ resignation.

The USOC (United States Olympic Committee) has summoned USA Boxing Executive Director Anthony Bartkowski back home to Colorado Springs, Colorado, from his assigned duties at the National Golden Gloves Tournament being held in Mesquite, Nevada, apparently in preparation for a forced vote by the USA Boxing Board of Directors who, with Adonis refusing to resign, could ultimately decide Adonis’ fate.

The USOC is responsible for the training, entering, and funding of U.S. Teams for Olympics competition while providing financial support and serving as a steward of the ‘Olympic Movement’ throughout the country, now hoping to temper the outrage and damage done by the for now USA Boxing President Hal Adonis.

Adonis would appreciate the decision being laid in the hands of his USA Boxing Board of Directors cronies who have apparently aligned themselves in his camp with little regard in how forcing such a vote could do much more harm than good to the many committed athletes preparing for their once in a lifetime opportunity to represent the USA in the 2012 Summer Olympic Games held in London.

The voluntary resignation by Hal Adonis would show what had previously been his committed dedication of doing ‘whatever it takes’ for the benefit of the USA Boxing Program, but with his USA Boxing Board of Directors cronies Gary Pliner (Board of Directors VP), Kymberli Stowe (Athlete Director/ACC Vice Chair), and Reginald Winston (Treasurer) remaining loyal to the man who has made them beneficiaries of the many ‘junkets’ that have let them travel around the world paid for by the USA Boxing membership, ‘the wagons are being circled’.

Rick Adams, USOC Managing Director, NGB Organizational Development, cannot be pleased with the Hal Adonis controversy.
The threat of ‘either you’re with us or against us’ could ultimately force those contemplating voting in favor of ousting the now disgraced Adonis to consider their own fate, should he survive and remain in office they then feeling his wrath.

Reginald Winston is already scheduled for travel to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, and London, England, with Pliner’s plans to date having him scheduled for travel to London only.

Why would the USA Boxing Treasurer and Board of Directors VP be guests of Adonis for world travel (their purpose being?) is a legitimate question asked with Adonis now agreeing NOT to run for re-election (rather than being removed) being an unacceptable alternative that would further allow world travel by himself and his cronies on the dime of USA Boxing membership, with London being his last stop.

The many members of USA Boxing are clueless of the Hal Adonis situation, him ardently ‘circling the wagons’ with supporters prior to his vacationing in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, possibly adding more embarrassment to USA Boxing as he cannot be trusted to open his mouth regarding anything associated with the USA Boxing Olympic effort.

The next few days in Colorado Springs, Colorado, will be warm with temperatures expected to cool down by Monday just in time for the expected fireworks of Hal Adonis pleading his case along with Colorado LBC President Jeanne DePriest explaining why/how Adonis remains the VP of the Colorado LBC Board of Directors.

Hal Adonis has proven himself a major liability to what USA Boxing is attempting to accomplish world-wide, and his latest comments alleged by him to have been ‘taken out of context’ is a slap in the face of anyone with a brain, specifically young women and mothers hoping to believe their daughter’s can become whatever they choose whether it be boxing star or the President of USA Boxing.

As Adonis clamors for support within the USA Boxing organization, the best way to counter that action is by e-mailing your individual displeasure and demanding the removal of Adonis to USA Boxing Executive Director Anthony Bartkowski, [email protected], with similar resignation demands to Rachel Isaacs, and Rick Adams of the USOC.

If the USA Boxing membership is as publicly vocal in demanding the removal of Hal Adonis as the President of USA Boxing as they’ve been in private, by this time next week he will have either resigned or have been voted out by the USA Boxing Board of Directors.
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boxmel wrote:T
he USOC said Zanders had to go
Jim - was that because of his mentorship of Ron Simms?

Melanie what are you getting at? I have been mentored by many as I have been on the national and elite level since 1989. A lot of you make accusations to fuel the rumors and lies. One has to respect you two because you do put your name up here not not hide behind aliases. Their are many in the amatuer game that smile in your face and speaking badly about you behind your back. It really does not matter what lies or rumors that one writes because no one can make anyone into something that they are not. Despite the rumors and lies I will continue to be productive in this sport. I am not one that is here for self preservation or self promotion, anyone that truly knows me know that for a fact. Maybe oneday we will get ourselves together and understand that this is not about any one or few individuals. If you are not being a part of the solution to a problem then you are part of the problem.

Ron "H-Bomb" Simms
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