Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (May 2012)

[Ambling Alp]

It's time for another Hall of Fame Election. The deadline for submitting a ballot is Noon CDT on May 15, 2012. I will total the ballots after that.

A brief summary of the rules for this election:

-A voter can vote for up to 25 names. (If you vote for more than 25, your entire ballot doesn't count.)
-A fighter's last fight has to be before January 1, 2003 to be eligible.
-You can change your vote. Your last vote before the deadline will be the one counted.
-Candidates who are named on at least 75% of the ballots are elected. If no fighters receive enough votes, the fighter(s) with the most will be elected.
Go to the Boxrec Hall of Fame Sticky (p.2) for more complete rules.

To vote, just list your selections on this thread. (Don't put them on the Hall of Fame Sticky or any other thread.)
It would be appreciated if you list your selections in alphabetical order.

It's a good idea to check every name that other voters have on their ballot. You may find someone that you overlooked and will want to change your ballot.

So far there had a been a good variety of fighters from different era's, weight classes, styles, etc. Hopefully that will continue.

Fighters already elected by Weight Class:
Heavyweight(15)- Ali, Louis, Marciano,Dempsey,Fitzsimmons,Johnson,Jeffries,Frazier,Liston,
Foreman,Sullivan,Corbett,Walcott,Jackson, Jeannette

Lightheavyweight(17)-Charles,Moore,Langford,Foster,Tunney,Conn,Harold Johnson,Loughran,Spinks,Marshall,O'Brien,Rosenbloom,Bivins,Tommy Gibbons,Stribling,Lewis,Dillion

Middleweight(19)-Greb,Monzon,Hagler,Ketchel,Walker,Burley,Cerdan,LaMotta,Tiger,Flowers,Steele,Mccoy,Gibbons
Benvenuti,Nonpariel Dempsey,Ryan, Darcy,Holman Williams,Zale,Giardello,Fullmer,McCoy

Jr Middleweight(1)-McCallum

Welterweight(15)-Robinson,Ross,Napoles,Griffith, Ray Leonard,Griffith,Benitez,Basilio,Gavilan,
McLarnin,Barbadoes Joe Walcott,Britton, Kid Lewis, Young Corbett III,Rodriguez

Jr Welterweight(4)-Loi, Locche,Cervantes,Berg

Lightweight(14)-Armstrong,Gans,Benny Leonard,Canzoneri,Ambers,Ike Williams,Carlos Ortiz,McFarland,Angott,Jack,Montgomery,Brown,Duran,Whitaker

Jr Lightweight(2)-Kid Chocolate,Elorde

Featherweight(12)-Pep,Saddler,Sanchez,Arguello,Attell,McGovern,Miller,Kilbane,Pedroza,Driscoll,Dundee,Saldivar

Jr Featherweight(1)-Gomez

Bantamweight(7)-Jofre,Brown,Olivares,Zarate,Harada,Manuel Ortiz,Dixon

Super Flyweight(1)-Galaxy

Flyweight(5)-Wilde,Perez,Villa,LaBarba,Lynch

If you want to make a case for or against someone, feel free to do it on this thread. To start things off, here is my ballot:


Baby Arizmendi
Jimmy Barry
Bat Battalino
Marty Booker
Miquel Canto
Jack Delaney
Frankie Genaro
Young Griffo
Pete Herman
Larry Holmes
Sammy Mandell
Joey Maxim
Sam McVey
Owen Moran
Battling Nelson
Floyd Patterson
Aaron Pryor
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Sugar Ramos
Max Schmeling
Lew Tendler
Freddie Welsh
Kid Williams
Harry Wills
Midget Wolgast

Vote responsibly, and lets have some fun!

[Seamus]

Marty Booker and Jim Delaney ?

Almost ready.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Baby Arizmendi
Battling battalino
Jack Blackburn
Eddie Booker
Newsboy Brown
Miguel Canto
Michael Carbajal
Jeff Chandler
Jung-Koo Chang
Jack Delaney
Frankie Genaro
Yoko Gushiken
Larry Holmes
Cocoa Kid
Santos Laciar
Joey maxim
Sam McVey
Azumah Nelson
Mike O' Dowd
Max Schmeling
Ben Villaflor
Harry Wills
Midget Wolgast
Myung-Woo Yuh
Hilario Zapata

[Seamus]

Baby Arizmendi
Jimmy Barry
Lou Brouillard
Frankie Burns
Jack Delaney
Lockport Jimmy Duffy
Frankie Genaro
Young Griffo
Larry Holmes
Rocky Kansas
Cocoa Kid
Jimmy Leto
Ricardo Lopez
Sammy Mandell
Memphis Pal Moore
Azumah Nelson
Kid Norfolk
Mike O'Dowd
Wesley Ramey
Petey Sarron
Lew Tendler
Freddie Welsh
Harry Wills
Midget Wolgast
Teddy Yarosz

[wsbuf]

Jimmy Barry
Jack Delaney
Lockport Jimmy Duffy
Frankie Genaro
Larry Holmes
Battling Nelson
Rocky Kansas
Cocoa Kid
Jimmy Leto
Lew Tendler
Freddie Welsh
Midget Wolgast
Tommy Paul

[Boilermaker]

Baby Arizmendi
Battling battalino
Jack Blackburn
Eddie Booker
Newsboy Brown
Miguel Canto
Michael Carbajal
Jeff Chandler
Jung-Koo Chang
Jack Delaney
Frankie Genaro
Yoko Gushiken
Larry Holmes
Cocoa Kid
Santos Laciar
Joey maxim
Sam McVey
Azumah Nelson
Mike O' Dowd
Max Schmeling
Ben Villaflor
Harry Wills
Midget Wolgast
Myung-Woo Yuh
Hilario Zapata

What happened to your 10 out of 10 knowledge of the modern era?

[BoxBuzz]

I'm thinkin' Nelson and Fenech are not qualified...?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Alp said he was because the fight with Fenech came so late. I pointed that out when people were voting for him before.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Baby Arizmendi
Battling battalino
Jack Blackburn
Eddie Booker
Newsboy Brown
Miguel Canto
Michael Carbajal
Jeff Chandler
Jung-Koo Chang
Jack Delaney
Frankie Genaro
Yoko Gushiken
Larry Holmes
Cocoa Kid
Santos Laciar
Joey maxim
Sam McVey
Azumah Nelson
Mike O' Dowd
Max Schmeling
Ben Villaflor
Harry Wills
Midget Wolgast
Myung-Woo Yuh
Hilario Zapata

What happened to your 10 out of 10 knowledge of the modern era?

Not a thing.

[Ezzard]

Baby Arizmendi
Jimmy Barry
Jack Blackburn
Eddie Booker
Newsboy Brown
Ken Buchanan
Miguel Canto
Jung-Koo Chang
Jack Delaney
Jeff Fenech
Young Griffo
Larry Holmes
Dave Holly
Cocoa Kid
Santos Laciar
Joey Maxim
Sam McVey
Owen Moran
Azumah Nelson
Ken Overlin
Sugar Ramos
Max Schmeling
Freddie Welsh
Midget Wolgast
Hilario Zapata

Gents, check out Owen Moran. I think he's wirth considering.

Dave Holly too.

[Jaclem]

....joey maxim...

[keithmoonhangover]

It's time for another Hall of Fame Election. The deadline for submitting a ballot is Noon CDT on May 15, 2012. I will total the ballots after that.

A brief summary of the rules for this election:

-A voter can vote for up to 25 names. (If you vote for more than 25, your entire ballot doesn't count.)
-A fighter's last fight has to be before January 1, 2002 to be eligible.
-You can change your vote. Your last vote before the deadline will be the one counted.
-Candidates who are named on at least 75% of the ballots are elected. If no fighters receive enough votes, the fighter(s) with the most will be elected.
Go to the Boxrec Hall of Fame Sticky (p.2) for more complete rules.

To vote, just list your selections on this thread. (Don't put them on the Hall of Fame Sticky or any other thread.)
It would be appreciated if you list your selections in alphabetical order.

It's a good idea to check every name that other voters have on their ballot. You may find someone that you overlooked and will want to change your ballot.

So far there had a been a good variety of fighters from different era's, weight classes, styles, etc. Hopefully that will continue.

Fighters already elected by Weight Class:
Heavyweight(15)- Ali, Louis, Marciano,Dempsey,Fitzsimmons,Johnson,Jeffries,Frazier,Liston,
Foreman,Sullivan,Corbett,Walcott,Jackson, Jeannette

Lightheavyweight(17)-Charles,Moore,Langford,Foster,Tunney,Conn,Harold Johnson,Loughran,Spinks,Marshall,O'Brien,Rosenbloom,Bivins,Tommy Gibbons,Stribling,Lewis,Dillion

Middleweight(19)-Greb,Monzon,Hagler,Ketchel,Walker,Burley,Cerdan,LaMotta,Tiger,Flowers,Steele,Mccoy,Gibbons
Benvenuti,Nonpariel Dempsey,Ryan, Darcy,Holman Williams,Zale,Giardello,Fullmer,McCoy

Jr Middleweight(1)-McCallum

Welterweight(15)-Robinson,Ross,Napoles,Griffith, Ray Leonard,Griffith,Benitez,Basilio,Gavilan,
McLarnin,Barbadoes Joe Walcott,Britton, Kid Lewis, Young Corbett III,Rodriguez

Jr Welterweight(4)-Loi, Locche,Cervantes,Berg

Lightweight(14)-Armstrong,Gans,Benny Leonard,Canzoneri,Ambers,Ike Williams,Carlos Ortiz,McFarland,Angott,Jack,Montgomery,Brown,Duran,Whitaker

Jr Lightweight(2)-Kid Chocolate,Elorde

Featherweight(12)-Pep,Saddler,Sanchez,Arguello,Attell,McGovern,Miller,Kilbane,Pedroza,Driscoll,Dundee,Saldivar

Jr Featherweight(1)-Gomez

Bantamweight(7)-Jofre,Brown,Olivares,Zarate,Harada,Manuel Ortiz,Dixon

Super Flyweight(1)-Galaxy

Flyweight(5)-Wilde,Perez,Villa,LaBarba,Lynch

If you want to make a case for or against someone, feel free to do it on this thread. To start things off, here is my ballot:


Baby Arizmendi
Jimmy Barry
Bat Battalino
Marty Booker
Miquel Canto
Jack Delaney
Frankie Genaro
Young Griffo
Pete Herman
Larry Holmes
Sammy Mandell
Joey Maxim
Sam McVey
Owen Moran
Battling Nelson
Floyd Patterson
Aaron Pryor
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Sugar Ramos
Max Schmeling
Lew Tendler
Freddie Welsh
Kid Williams
Harry Wills
Midget Wolgast

Vote responsibly, and lets have some fun!

I'm no expert, but I don't think Holmes qualifies. His last fight was July 2002.

[JDC]

I'll edit this post in good time.

[keithmoonhangover]

16 for me so far.

Orlando Canizales
Michael Carbajal
Humberto Gonzalez
Pone Kingpetch
Ricardo Lopez
Owen Moran
Battling Nelson
Terry Norris
Chong Pal Park
Billy Papke
Aaron Pryor
Gilberto Roman
Wilfredo Vazquez
Harry Wills
Fritzie Zivic

[Seamus]

Antonio Cervantes is already in.

[elmersalsa]

Here is my ballot, Alp:

Fred Apostoli
Jimmy Barry
Ken Buchanan
Miguel Canto
Georges Carpentier
Bobby Chacon
Esteban De Jesus
Jack Delaney
Paddy DeMarco
Victor Galindez
Billy Graham
Pete "Kid" Herman
Ismael Laguna
Ricardo "Finito" Lopez
Owen Moran
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Azumah Nelson
Battling Nelson
Aaron Pryor
Max Schmeling
Jack Sharkey
Freddie Welsh
Harry Wills
Myung Woo Yuh
Hilario Zapata

[hofguy]

Jimmy Barry
Ken Buchanan
Georges Carpentier
Eugene Criqui
Jack Delaney
Johnny Famechon
Frankie Genaro
Young Griffo
Pete Herman
Ismael Laguna
Ricardo Lopez
Joey Maxim
Sam McVey
Owen Moran
Battling Nelson
Willie Pastrano
Floyd Patterson
Aaron Pryor
Sugar Ramos
Lionel Rose
Max Schmeling
Vic Toweel
Freddie Welsh
Harry Wills
Fritzie Zivic

[Ambling Alp]

It's time for another Hall of Fame Election. The deadline for submitting a ballot is Noon CDT on May 15, 2012. I will total the ballots after that.

A brief summary of the rules for this election:

-A voter can vote for up to 25 names. (If you vote for more than 25, your entire ballot doesn't count.)
-A fighter's last fight has to be before January 1, 2002 to be eligible.
-You can change your vote. Your last vote before the deadline will be the one counted.
-Candidates who are named on at least 75% of the ballots are elected. If no fighters receive enough votes, the fighter(s) with the most will be elected.
Go to the Boxrec Hall of Fame Sticky (p.2) for more complete rules.

To vote, just list your selections on this thread. (Don't put them on the Hall of Fame Sticky or any other thread.)
It would be appreciated if you list your selections in alphabetical order.

It's a good idea to check every name that other voters have on their ballot. You may find someone that you overlooked and will want to change your ballot.

So far there had a been a good variety of fighters from different era's, weight classes, styles, etc. Hopefully that will continue.

Fighters already elected by Weight Class:
Heavyweight(15)- Ali, Louis, Marciano,Dempsey,Fitzsimmons,Johnson,Jeffries,Frazier,Liston,
Foreman,Sullivan,Corbett,Walcott,Jackson, Jeannette

Lightheavyweight(17)-Charles,Moore,Langford,Foster,Tunney,Conn,Harold Johnson,Loughran,Spinks,Marshall,O'Brien,Rosenbloom,Bivins,Tommy Gibbons,Stribling,Lewis,Dillion

Middleweight(19)-Greb,Monzon,Hagler,Ketchel,Walker,Burley,Cerdan,LaMotta,Tiger,Flowers,Steele,Mccoy,Gibbons
Benvenuti,Nonpariel Dempsey,Ryan, Darcy,Holman Williams,Zale,Giardello,Fullmer,McCoy

Jr Middleweight(1)-McCallum

Welterweight(15)-Robinson,Ross,Napoles,Griffith, Ray Leonard,Griffith,Benitez,Basilio,Gavilan,
McLarnin,Barbadoes Joe Walcott,Britton, Kid Lewis, Young Corbett III,Rodriguez

Jr Welterweight(4)-Loi, Locche,Cervantes,Berg

Lightweight(14)-Armstrong,Gans,Benny Leonard,Canzoneri,Ambers,Ike Williams,Carlos Ortiz,McFarland,Angott,Jack,Montgomery,Brown,Duran,Whitaker

Jr Lightweight(2)-Kid Chocolate,Elorde

Featherweight(12)-Pep,Saddler,Sanchez,Arguello,Attell,McGovern,Miller,Kilbane,Pedroza,Driscoll,Dundee,Saldivar

Jr Featherweight(1)-Gomez

Bantamweight(7)-Jofre,Brown,Olivares,Zarate,Harada,Manuel Ortiz,Dixon

Super Flyweight(1)-Galaxy

Flyweight(5)-Wilde,Perez,Villa,LaBarba,Lynch

If you want to make a case for or against someone, feel free to do it on this thread. To start things off, here is my ballot:


Baby Arizmendi
Jimmy Barry
Bat Battalino
Marty Booker
Miquel Canto
Jack Delaney
Frankie Genaro
Young Griffo
Pete Herman
Larry Holmes
Sammy Mandell
Joey Maxim
Sam McVey
Owen Moran
Battling Nelson
Floyd Patterson
Aaron Pryor
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Sugar Ramos
Max Schmeling
Lew Tendler
Freddie Welsh
Kid Williams
Harry Wills
Midget Wolgast

Vote responsibly, and lets have some fun!

I'm no expert, but I don't think Holmes qualifies. His last fight was July 2002.

We have been allowing guys in in this situation. As long as a fighter didn't fight in 2003 or after, he is now eligible. So you can vote for Holmes.

[Ambling Alp]

It's time for another Hall of Fame Election. The deadline for submitting a ballot is Noon CDT on May 15, 2012. I will total the ballots after that.

A brief summary of the rules for this election:

-A voter can vote for up to 25 names. (If you vote for more than 25, your entire ballot doesn't count.)
-A fighter's last fight has to be before January 1, 2002 to be eligible.
-You can change your vote. Your last vote before the deadline will be the one counted.
-Candidates who are named on at least 75% of the ballots are elected. If no fighters receive enough votes, the fighter(s) with the most will be elected.
Go to the Boxrec Hall of Fame Sticky (p.2) for more complete rules.

To vote, just list your selections on this thread. (Don't put them on the Hall of Fame Sticky or any other thread.)
It would be appreciated if you list your selections in alphabetical order.

It's a good idea to check every name that other voters have on their ballot. You may find someone that you overlooked and will want to change your ballot.

So far there had a been a good variety of fighters from different era's, weight classes, styles, etc. Hopefully that will continue.

Fighters already elected by Weight Class:
Heavyweight(15)- Ali, Louis, Marciano,Dempsey,Fitzsimmons,Johnson,Jeffries,Frazier,Liston,
Foreman,Sullivan,Corbett,Walcott,Jackson, Jeannette

Lightheavyweight(17)-Charles,Moore,Langford,Foster,Tunney,Conn,Harold Johnson,Loughran,Spinks,Marshall,O'Brien,Rosenbloom,Bivins,Tommy Gibbons,Stribling,Lewis,Dillion

Middleweight(19)-Greb,Monzon,Hagler,Ketchel,Walker,Burley,Cerdan,LaMotta,Tiger,Flowers,Steele,Mccoy,Gibbons
Benvenuti,Nonpariel Dempsey,Ryan, Darcy,Holman Williams,Zale,Giardello,Fullmer,McCoy

Jr Middleweight(1)-McCallum

Welterweight(15)-Robinson,Ross,Napoles,Griffith, Ray Leonard,Griffith,Benitez,Basilio,Gavilan,
McLarnin,Barbadoes Joe Walcott,Britton, Kid Lewis, Young Corbett III,Rodriguez

Jr Welterweight(4)-Loi, Locche,Cervantes,Berg

Lightweight(14)-Armstrong,Gans,Benny Leonard,Canzoneri,Ambers,Ike Williams,Carlos Ortiz,McFarland,Angott,Jack,Montgomery,Brown,Duran,Whitaker

Jr Lightweight(2)-Kid Chocolate,Elorde

Featherweight(12)-Pep,Saddler,Sanchez,Arguello,Attell,McGovern,Miller,Kilbane,Pedroza,Driscoll,Dundee,Saldivar

Jr Featherweight(1)-Gomez

Bantamweight(7)-Jofre,Brown,Olivares,Zarate,Harada,Manuel Ortiz,Dixon

Super Flyweight(1)-Galaxy

Flyweight(5)-Wilde,Perez,Villa,LaBarba,Lynch

If you want to make a case for or against someone, feel free to do it on this thread. To start things off, here is my ballot:


Baby Arizmendi
Jimmy Barry
Bat Battalino
Marty Booker
Miquel Canto
Jack Delaney
Frankie Genaro
Young Griffo
Pete Herman
Larry Holmes
Sammy Mandell
Joey Maxim
Sam McVey
Owen Moran
Battling Nelson
Floyd Patterson
Aaron Pryor
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Sugar Ramos
Max Schmeling
Lew Tendler
Freddie Welsh
Kid Williams
Harry Wills
Midget Wolgast

Vote responsibly, and lets have some fun!

I'm no expert, but I don't think Holmes qualifies. His last fight was July 2002.

We have been allowing guys in in this situation. As long as a fighter didn't fight in 2003 or after, he is now eligible. So you can vote for Holmes.

[keithmoonhangover]

It's time for another Hall of Fame Election. The deadline for submitting a ballot is Noon CDT on May 15, 2012. I will total the ballots after that.

A brief summary of the rules for this election:

-A voter can vote for up to 25 names. (If you vote for more than 25, your entire ballot doesn't count.)
-A fighter's last fight has to be before January 1, 2002 to be eligible.
-You can change your vote. Your last vote before the deadline will be the one counted.
-Candidates who are named on at least 75% of the ballots are elected. If no fighters receive enough votes, the fighter(s) with the most will be elected.
Go to the Boxrec Hall of Fame Sticky (p.2) for more complete rules.

To vote, just list your selections on this thread. (Don't put them on the Hall of Fame Sticky or any other thread.)
It would be appreciated if you list your selections in alphabetical order.

It's a good idea to check every name that other voters have on their ballot. You may find someone that you overlooked and will want to change your ballot.

So far there had a been a good variety of fighters from different era's, weight classes, styles, etc. Hopefully that will continue.

Fighters already elected by Weight Class:
Heavyweight(15)- Ali, Louis, Marciano,Dempsey,Fitzsimmons,Johnson,Jeffries,Frazier,Liston,
Foreman,Sullivan,Corbett,Walcott,Jackson, Jeannette

Lightheavyweight(17)-Charles,Moore,Langford,Foster,Tunney,Conn,Harold Johnson,Loughran,Spinks,Marshall,O'Brien,Rosenbloom,Bivins,Tommy Gibbons,Stribling,Lewis,Dillion

Middleweight(19)-Greb,Monzon,Hagler,Ketchel,Walker,Burley,Cerdan,LaMotta,Tiger,Flowers,Steele,Mccoy,Gibbons
Benvenuti,Nonpariel Dempsey,Ryan, Darcy,Holman Williams,Zale,Giardello,Fullmer,McCoy

Jr Middleweight(1)-McCallum

Welterweight(15)-Robinson,Ross,Napoles,Griffith, Ray Leonard,Griffith,Benitez,Basilio,Gavilan,
McLarnin,Barbadoes Joe Walcott,Britton, Kid Lewis, Young Corbett III,Rodriguez

Jr Welterweight(4)-Loi, Locche,Cervantes,Berg

Lightweight(14)-Armstrong,Gans,Benny Leonard,Canzoneri,Ambers,Ike Williams,Carlos Ortiz,McFarland,Angott,Jack,Montgomery,Brown,Duran,Whitaker

Jr Lightweight(2)-Kid Chocolate,Elorde

Featherweight(12)-Pep,Saddler,Sanchez,Arguello,Attell,McGovern,Miller,Kilbane,Pedroza,Driscoll,Dundee,Saldivar

Jr Featherweight(1)-Gomez

Bantamweight(7)-Jofre,Brown,Olivares,Zarate,Harada,Manuel Ortiz,Dixon

Super Flyweight(1)-Galaxy

Flyweight(5)-Wilde,Perez,Villa,LaBarba,Lynch

If you want to make a case for or against someone, feel free to do it on this thread. To start things off, here is my ballot:


Baby Arizmendi
Jimmy Barry
Bat Battalino
Marty Booker
Miquel Canto
Jack Delaney
Frankie Genaro
Young Griffo
Pete Herman
Larry Holmes
Sammy Mandell
Joey Maxim
Sam McVey
Owen Moran
Battling Nelson
Floyd Patterson
Aaron Pryor
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Sugar Ramos
Max Schmeling
Lew Tendler
Freddie Welsh
Kid Williams
Harry Wills
Midget Wolgast

Vote responsibly, and lets have some fun!

I'm no expert, but I don't think Holmes qualifies. His last fight was July 2002.

We have been allowing guys in in this situation. As long as a fighter didn't fight in 2003 or after, he is now eligible. So you can vote for Holmes.

I was just reading your rule....

-A fighter's last fight has to be before January 1, 2002 to be eligible.

[Ambling Alp]

Thanks for catching that I will edit that. I just copied and pasted from previous elections.

Just to further clarify a couple of things about eligibility:
1. Larry holmes has last fight was in July of 2002. However we have been allowing fighters eligible in this situation. We aren't going by the month. As long as someone didn't fight in 2003 or later, he is eligible this time.

The reason this was changed is becasue we of the way we do the 2nd election of the year in November. In that election, only fighters who got two or more votes (but not enough votes to be elected) in the May election are eligible. Obviously a fighter likes holmes would not be eligible at all this year since he would have no votes if we didn't make an allownace.
2. We have been allowing votes Nelson and Fenech. Ignoring their comeback fight which was several years after they retired the first time.

[keithmoonhangover]

Just wanted to clarify a couple of things about elgibility:
1. Larry holmes has last fight was in July of 2002. However we have been allowing fighters eligible in this situation. We aren't going by the month. As long as someone didn't fight in 2003 or later, he is eligible this time.
2. We have been allowing votes Nelson and Fenech. Ignoring their comeback fight which was several years after they retired the first time.

My mistake, I was just going on the original post.

[keithmoonhangover]

Just wanted to clarify a couple of things about elgibility:
1. Larry holmes has last fight was in July of 2002. However we have been allowing fighters eligible in this situation. We aren't going by the month. As long as someone didn't fight in 2003 or later, he is eligible this time.
2. We have been allowing votes Nelson and Fenech. Ignoring their comeback fight which was several years after they retired the first time.

My mistake, I was just going on the details in the original post.

[Ambling Alp]

Thanks for catching that I will edit that. I just copied and pasted from previous elections.

Just to further clarify a couple of things about eligibility:
1. Larry holmes has last fight was in July of 2002. However we have been allowing fighters eligible in this situation. We aren't going by the month. As long as someone didn't fight in 2003 or later, he is eligible this time.

The reason this was changed is becasue we of the way we do the 2nd election of the year in November. In that election, only fighters who got two or more votes (but not enough votes to be elected) in the May election are eligible. Obviously a fighter likes holmes would not be eligible at all this year since he would have no votes if we didn't make an allownace.
2. We have been allowing votes Nelson and Fenech. Ignoring their comeback fight which was several years after they retired the first time.

[Sportofkings]

Thanks for catching that I will edit that. I just copied and pasted from previous elections.

Just to further clarify a couple of things about eligibility:
1. Larry holmes has last fight was in July of 2002. However we have been allowing fighters eligible in this situation. We aren't going by the month. As long as someone didn't fight in 2003 or later, he is eligible this time.

The reason this was changed is becasue we of the way we do the 2nd election of the year in November. In that election, only fighters who got two or more votes (but not enough votes to be elected) in the May election are eligible. Obviously a fighter likes holmes would not be eligible at all this year since he would have no votes if we didn't make an allownace.
2. We have been allowing votes Nelson and Fenech. Ignoring their comeback fight which was several years after they retired the first time.

Michael Carbajal should have been put in long ago.