do u guys really think rocky would KO braddock?...i think rocky would easily win, but im not sure if he could KO braddock... IMO..and for once i dont think its being biased haha... sherlock thats great news...which one was it cause ive got 3..there all great reads and i garentee ull fall in love. enjoy the book!
as for the list now......
Dempsey- Dempsey 13 round KO
Tunney- Marciano 4-6 round KO
Sharkey- Marciano UD
Schmelling- Marciano UD
Carnera-Marciano 3 round KO
Baer- ........ehh ill take marciano i guess, but no confidence just think rocky is a little better. i think this could make for a good fight if baer didnt act like a clown.
Braddock- Not enough cinderella in him to win this... although i think he goes the way. Rocky UD
Louis- Louis 8 round KO
Ezzard- Marciano 10 round KO
Jersey Joe- Rocky 11 round KO
marciano v other great heavyweights...
The Jeremy Schaap book. Went through 40 pages already, great read. Just ordered the Schmeling biography and Unforgivable Blackness. Also a book by Albert Camus (life outside boxingRory McCloskey wrote:sherlock thats great news...which one was it cause ive got 3..there all great reads and i garentee ull fall in love. enjoy the book!
Tunney- Marciano 4-6 round KO
). Looking forward to some fall boxing reading.And I take it you didn't read my assessment of Tunney. I think you can argue a Marciano decision, but Tunney had a solid chin. Except for the Dempsey knockdown he was always on his feet. Hard for me to see an agrument for a Marciano KO
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BrocktonBlockbuster49
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about tunney, tunney got knocked down the fewest out of any heavyeight champ because he had only THREE fights against heavyweight. and when i say three, he did fight more than 3 heavyeights but they were 180 lb guys who werent contenders. the only other contender i could say he fought was johnny risko. the only 2 heavyweight contenders he fougth were a past his priem dempsey and tom heenan. and one of those times he was knocked down by a past his prime dempsey(who could still punch). so it goes to show he only fouht 2 heavyweights dempsey and tom heeney.
and sherlock, other people will attesgt to this. this wasnt a one sided beating foe 12 rounds the way some people think it is. walcott boxed brillitanly in one of his finest preformances and knocked marciano down, but the fight was shifitng back and forth and after 12 rounds, walcott was only ahead about 7 rounds to 5 which is close. the fight was close. marciano jumped out early then in mid rounds was blinded and took a beating then his eyes clealred he came back again before walcott somehw got stronger and took the 11th and 12th. it looked as though walcott was getting stronger.
rory, i like ur picks. i do think marciano knocks out max schmelling. if baer can get to schmelling especially with his right, marciano would get to schmelling.
and sugar ray, i respect ur opinion, but IMO lennox lewis was not the 2nd greatest heavwight. i rate lennox lewis at 11th. he got knocked out twice in his prime by 2nd rate champions. and lewis almost lost to a past his prime holyfield. if the smaller hoylfield could get to louis, why couldnt marciano. lewis couldnt give holyfield a beating, what makes u think he could give marciano a beating.
macthups:
marciano tko 14 DEMPSEY- marciano had the stronger chin and when u slug it out at that rate, the better chin will previal. also dempsey left himself open a lot which is why firpo nearly KAyoed him and tunney knocked him down. dempsey was also a sucker ofr right hands, carpentier hurt him badly with a right.
marciano TKO 9 MAx Baer
Marciano KO 2 jack Sharkey
Marciano TKO 11 Max Schmelling
Marciano 15u Tunney
jersey joe walcott- walcott was in his prime when he fought marciano, and i refuse to comment on this match. why are we asking for this fantasy match if it already happened????
its like asking who would win sonny liston or flod patterson when they both fought twice in their prime. walcotts peak fight was louis-1. but he was still in his prime when he fougth marciano and a lot of old itmers think his marciano fight was one of his or his finest pereformance.
and i saw a couple people put walcott 15u over marciano.
o n what basis makes u say this if walcot was in his prime when they fought??? walcott was ahead and marciano caught him and knocked him out. end of story, and u forget and some people never give marciano the credit for knocking out walcott in one round in the rematch.
i love joe and hes the greatest, but im gonna use him as an example here. hell if u wanna go like that and say walcott beats marciano, then prime shmelling KOs joe louis. cause schmelling in his prime knocked out louis and then louis wated till schmellinf was older ot get a rematch then knocked him out in 1. but no one ever critizes louis or says max was past his prime which u could make a case fore. niether do i. but u get the point. if u give louis the credit for knocking out schmelling in a rematch, then give marciaon credit for knocking out walcott in 1.
and sherlock, other people will attesgt to this. this wasnt a one sided beating foe 12 rounds the way some people think it is. walcott boxed brillitanly in one of his finest preformances and knocked marciano down, but the fight was shifitng back and forth and after 12 rounds, walcott was only ahead about 7 rounds to 5 which is close. the fight was close. marciano jumped out early then in mid rounds was blinded and took a beating then his eyes clealred he came back again before walcott somehw got stronger and took the 11th and 12th. it looked as though walcott was getting stronger.
rory, i like ur picks. i do think marciano knocks out max schmelling. if baer can get to schmelling especially with his right, marciano would get to schmelling.
and sugar ray, i respect ur opinion, but IMO lennox lewis was not the 2nd greatest heavwight. i rate lennox lewis at 11th. he got knocked out twice in his prime by 2nd rate champions. and lewis almost lost to a past his prime holyfield. if the smaller hoylfield could get to louis, why couldnt marciano. lewis couldnt give holyfield a beating, what makes u think he could give marciano a beating.
macthups:
marciano tko 14 DEMPSEY- marciano had the stronger chin and when u slug it out at that rate, the better chin will previal. also dempsey left himself open a lot which is why firpo nearly KAyoed him and tunney knocked him down. dempsey was also a sucker ofr right hands, carpentier hurt him badly with a right.
marciano TKO 9 MAx Baer
Marciano KO 2 jack Sharkey
Marciano TKO 11 Max Schmelling
Marciano 15u Tunney
jersey joe walcott- walcott was in his prime when he fought marciano, and i refuse to comment on this match. why are we asking for this fantasy match if it already happened????
its like asking who would win sonny liston or flod patterson when they both fought twice in their prime. walcotts peak fight was louis-1. but he was still in his prime when he fougth marciano and a lot of old itmers think his marciano fight was one of his or his finest pereformance.
and i saw a couple people put walcott 15u over marciano.
o n what basis makes u say this if walcot was in his prime when they fought??? walcott was ahead and marciano caught him and knocked him out. end of story, and u forget and some people never give marciano the credit for knocking out walcott in one round in the rematch.
i love joe and hes the greatest, but im gonna use him as an example here. hell if u wanna go like that and say walcott beats marciano, then prime shmelling KOs joe louis. cause schmelling in his prime knocked out louis and then louis wated till schmellinf was older ot get a rematch then knocked him out in 1. but no one ever critizes louis or says max was past his prime which u could make a case fore. niether do i. but u get the point. if u give louis the credit for knocking out schmelling in a rematch, then give marciaon credit for knocking out walcott in 1.
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Rory McCloskey
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Rory McCloskey
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noones mentioned braddock yet..would it be that easy of a fight?...
and sugar ray.. u ranked lewis 2nd greatest heavyweight ever??? wow..well its ur opinion but i think thats a major major reach. i would rank lewis probly around 17 for me i dunno 15-18 somehwere in there im not completley sold on his greatness.
brockton.... i think sonny was probly a little to strong for floyd. floyd would put up and excellent fight into the mid to late rounds, but i think eventually sonny's overpowering strength and stamina would guide him to a late round KO.. he probly would be behind on the cards when he does it too
and sugar ray.. u ranked lewis 2nd greatest heavyweight ever??? wow..well its ur opinion but i think thats a major major reach. i would rank lewis probly around 17 for me i dunno 15-18 somehwere in there im not completley sold on his greatness.
brockton.... i think sonny was probly a little to strong for floyd. floyd would put up and excellent fight into the mid to late rounds, but i think eventually sonny's overpowering strength and stamina would guide him to a late round KO.. he probly would be behind on the cards when he does it too
I agree with you that Walcott was in his prime against Marciano, but only mentally. He knew everything about the game inside and out and used it to his advantage against lesser fighters, but a 37 year old body cannot do everything its mind tells it to. And with the Walcott rematch, I believe the fight was out of him (Rock did that against almost every fighter he fought).
Louis didn't hit his greatness till after he beat Schmeling. Early on he was flawed, Schmeling took advantage and beat him. Louis fixed it and became the ultimate unbeatable fighting machine. Prime versus prime, Louis kayoes him, but not in one. More likely 7 or 8 rounds in.
And Tunney had a great chin at light heavy too. He fought punchers at both weights. If you want to get technical, Marciano never took a punch from a true heavyweight. Heavys don't neccessarily punch harder than light heavys, thats just a myth like size is a deciding factor between a tall fighter and a short fighter.
And Schmeling was a smart guy. I think he was never naturally skilled but made up for it with a great mind. I think he could find flaws in Marciano and exploit them for a hard fought decision. Baer beat Schmeling because he was better at Schmeling's game, not because he could swarm in. Schmeling's right hand was strong enough to keep Marciano from coming in recklessly. In a rematch, Rocky takes a hard fought decision. He had a knack of taking the fight out of guys.
Louis didn't hit his greatness till after he beat Schmeling. Early on he was flawed, Schmeling took advantage and beat him. Louis fixed it and became the ultimate unbeatable fighting machine. Prime versus prime, Louis kayoes him, but not in one. More likely 7 or 8 rounds in.
And Tunney had a great chin at light heavy too. He fought punchers at both weights. If you want to get technical, Marciano never took a punch from a true heavyweight. Heavys don't neccessarily punch harder than light heavys, thats just a myth like size is a deciding factor between a tall fighter and a short fighter.
And Schmeling was a smart guy. I think he was never naturally skilled but made up for it with a great mind. I think he could find flaws in Marciano and exploit them for a hard fought decision. Baer beat Schmeling because he was better at Schmeling's game, not because he could swarm in. Schmeling's right hand was strong enough to keep Marciano from coming in recklessly. In a rematch, Rocky takes a hard fought decision. He had a knack of taking the fight out of guys.
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BrocktonBlockbuster49
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if marciano could beat walcott and charles, i know he would gt to schmelling. marciano never lossed, even on an off night. marciano would find a way to get to schmelling justl ike he did all his opponents plus schmelling cant deal with marcianos power. rocky had underated defense as well. but rockys in a different class than schmelling as good as schmelling is.
i agree and disagree with u about walcott. i agree he was in his prime, but i disagree about not being physically there. look at guys like lennox lewis who fought his best fights in his thirties or bernard hopkins his peak fight was at 38. walcott wasnt even a contender in 20s so its not like he fought a lot of wars which beat him down physically. and walcott was jacked and muscular at 37 and he didnt come in over weight, he came in the exact same weight he had been he previous 5 years. and walcott got stronger during the fight and fought at a brilliant pace.
well marciano did a take a punch from walcott who at over 6'0 196lbs is a heavyweight. and walcott hit him with a flush left hook. marciano took punches from a 6'2 215 lb joe louis who was a full fledged heayweight, and joe still had power left. in the fight before marciano, louis knocked out top contender lee savold .
and those are just two examples. would it make u feel better if the light hitting 220 lb nino valdez hit marciano and marciano stood there and laughed????? cause even the 188lb archie moore hit a lot harder than nio valdez.
i agree and disagree with u about walcott. i agree he was in his prime, but i disagree about not being physically there. look at guys like lennox lewis who fought his best fights in his thirties or bernard hopkins his peak fight was at 38. walcott wasnt even a contender in 20s so its not like he fought a lot of wars which beat him down physically. and walcott was jacked and muscular at 37 and he didnt come in over weight, he came in the exact same weight he had been he previous 5 years. and walcott got stronger during the fight and fought at a brilliant pace.
well marciano did a take a punch from walcott who at over 6'0 196lbs is a heavyweight. and walcott hit him with a flush left hook. marciano took punches from a 6'2 215 lb joe louis who was a full fledged heayweight, and joe still had power left. in the fight before marciano, louis knocked out top contender lee savold .
and those are just two examples. would it make u feel better if the light hitting 220 lb nino valdez hit marciano and marciano stood there and laughed????? cause even the 188lb archie moore hit a lot harder than nio valdez.
Walcott was better than he ever was, but his body is not like a 25 year old. He fought a lot and had a hard life. I bet you know people in shape over 35 whos knees are gone or have trouble doing things they did easier when younger. Hopkins and Lewis benfited also from being experts at the sport like Walcott. They couldn't move, throw, or react as fast, they adjusted.
You don't see Emmittt Smith running through guys like he did when he was younger. He's slower but smarter and adjusted to his body, the great ones always do. Marciano changed late, becoming more of a boxer in the end.
And I only brought up that Marciano never took a heavies shot because you stated Tunney hadn't. Punchers are born, not matter how much they weigh they can kayo a bigger guy. Both could throw a punch and both could take a punch.
I think your underrating Schmelings ability to take a punch. The only guy in his prime to hurt him badly was Baer. Baer when he wanted to could be one of the all time greats. He battered Schmeling, knocked him down at least once. Schmeling got up and kept fighting despite taking a beating and was out on his feet when the ref stopped it. He had the toughness to match Marciano. He took that beating from Louis, screamed from a devastating kidney blow but kept getting up. How many guys would have kept fighting against that?
He struggled in the mid thirties but still beat some great fighters in his career: Sharkey twice, no matter what the record books say, Young Stribling, Uzcudan, and was the only person to beat Louis when he was in his prime. He had an easier time with a 22 year old Louis than Marciano had with an old 37 year old Louis.
When Baer trained, he was a great boxer with one of the most potent right hands in history. He was a stronger puncher than Marciano (not because he was 6'2 220 lbs) and could box his way in. With a strong chin he could take punches. He was a formidable opponent for anybody.
You don't see Emmittt Smith running through guys like he did when he was younger. He's slower but smarter and adjusted to his body, the great ones always do. Marciano changed late, becoming more of a boxer in the end.
And I only brought up that Marciano never took a heavies shot because you stated Tunney hadn't. Punchers are born, not matter how much they weigh they can kayo a bigger guy. Both could throw a punch and both could take a punch.
I think your underrating Schmelings ability to take a punch. The only guy in his prime to hurt him badly was Baer. Baer when he wanted to could be one of the all time greats. He battered Schmeling, knocked him down at least once. Schmeling got up and kept fighting despite taking a beating and was out on his feet when the ref stopped it. He had the toughness to match Marciano. He took that beating from Louis, screamed from a devastating kidney blow but kept getting up. How many guys would have kept fighting against that?
He struggled in the mid thirties but still beat some great fighters in his career: Sharkey twice, no matter what the record books say, Young Stribling, Uzcudan, and was the only person to beat Louis when he was in his prime. He had an easier time with a 22 year old Louis than Marciano had with an old 37 year old Louis.
When Baer trained, he was a great boxer with one of the most potent right hands in history. He was a stronger puncher than Marciano (not because he was 6'2 220 lbs) and could box his way in. With a strong chin he could take punches. He was a formidable opponent for anybody.
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BrocktonBlockbuster49
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bear was one of the hardest hitting heavywieght punchers, but i think marciano hit a little harder. but u could make a case for both sides.
and it took baer about 50 right hands to finnally put schmelling down and schmelling still wouldnt stay down. i think marciano's right was better than baer's right but not by much.
anyway im not underating max schmellings abilities to take a punch. i just think marciano would have stopped him, maybe not keep him down.
good point about marciano changig his style late. he became more of a grinder late in his career and some say he lost some power and his deadly overhand right after the lastarza fight.
an in interesting thing on schmelling. after louis got knocked out by marciano, he siad "marciano hits harder than max schmelling." funny how he said max schmelling and not walcott nor baer. that goes to show u that max schmelling had underated punching abililty especially in his right hand. max schemlling had a very hard right hand.
and it took baer about 50 right hands to finnally put schmelling down and schmelling still wouldnt stay down. i think marciano's right was better than baer's right but not by much.
anyway im not underating max schmellings abilities to take a punch. i just think marciano would have stopped him, maybe not keep him down.
good point about marciano changig his style late. he became more of a grinder late in his career and some say he lost some power and his deadly overhand right after the lastarza fight.
an in interesting thing on schmelling. after louis got knocked out by marciano, he siad "marciano hits harder than max schmelling." funny how he said max schmelling and not walcott nor baer. that goes to show u that max schmelling had underated punching abililty especially in his right hand. max schemlling had a very hard right hand.
Though I have read where Louis said the toughest guy he ever fought was Baer. And I have nothing against your picks, just adding some insights to balance the debate. Nobody likes a one sided debateBrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:bear was one of the hardest hitting heavywieght punchers, but i think marciano hit a little harder. but u could make a case for both sides.
and it took baer about 50 right hands to finnally put schmelling down and schmelling still wouldnt stay down. i think marciano's right was better than baer's right but not by much.
anyway im not underating max schmellings abilities to take a punch. i just think marciano would have stopped him, maybe not keep him down.
good point about marciano changig his style late. he became more of a grinder late in his career and some say he lost some power and his deadly overhand right after the lastarza fight.
an in interesting thing on schmelling. after louis got knocked out by marciano, he siad "marciano hits harder than max schmelling." funny how he said max schmelling and not walcott nor baer. that goes to show u that max schmelling had underated punching abililty especially in his right hand. max schemlling had a very hard right hand.
.Once again I have to say I love the boxers of the past forum. Unlike in the current scene, we can have a civilized debate with opposing views without any name calling or putdowns. Keep it up you guys.
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BrocktonBlockbuster49
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well louis Kayoed max baer quite easily and i think he would say the toughest guys he ever faced were conn, or walcott. he could mean tough by max baer took a lot of pnuches and still got up until the beating got so bad he stayed down.
louis always praises marciano and rates him high. he said in his book he would pick walcott and marciano to beat ali.
louis always praises marciano and rates him high. he said in his book he would pick walcott and marciano to beat ali.
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Rory McCloskey
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sherlock im pretty sure louis said the toughest guy he ever faced was my man james j braddock.... well actually maybe your right.. louis used the words couragous...so maybe im wrong
brockton...i think that u have to judge baers power when he fought serious..it was rare, but when he was serious, and he wanted to knock ur ass out, he did just so. if he came to every fight with that killer instinct he had before frankie cambell and he threw his punches with bad intentions.. i think that he would probly be in discussions for top 5 heavyweight of all time... i think before the frankie cambell issue and before he started clowning around every fight, slapsie maxie had one of the hardest punches ever... granted rocky was also unbeleivabley strong and hit very hard, so id say that the max baer that most people know, the clown n the guy with no killer instinct, rocky deff. has a stronger punch then him.
brockton...i think that u have to judge baers power when he fought serious..it was rare, but when he was serious, and he wanted to knock ur ass out, he did just so. if he came to every fight with that killer instinct he had before frankie cambell and he threw his punches with bad intentions.. i think that he would probly be in discussions for top 5 heavyweight of all time... i think before the frankie cambell issue and before he started clowning around every fight, slapsie maxie had one of the hardest punches ever... granted rocky was also unbeleivabley strong and hit very hard, so id say that the max baer that most people know, the clown n the guy with no killer instinct, rocky deff. has a stronger punch then him.
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Rory McCloskey
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brockton... walcott and marciano were both excellent fighters, and im pretty sure u dont beleive that they would beat ali, based on previous posts on the matter, but ali was so great that one of the greatest complements you could give to a fighter that you respected, was to say that they could beat ali...im sure that when u read that joe louis thought so highley of your man rocky, that you were flattered..u were honored almost that someone would think that much of your fighter.. i have an idea because...
i read more and more on braddock everyday, and just last week i came upon this old new york newspaper article from the day after the rumble in the jungle... it was by columnist red smith..he said that he went to madison square garden the night of the fight to watch a closed circuit broadcast of the fight. while they were eating dinner, red spotted dempsey tunney and braddock all dining at the same table, reflecting on the days of ole and sharing a laugh together... red smith went on to say after the fight,"There are three guys at that table who could whip ali on the best night he ever had."
of course neither tunney or braddock would stand a chance in hell, and dempsey would most likely lose himself... but it was an honor that someoen would say that about braddock and the other 2 fighters that i adore. i know u probly do not really care and u probly werent thinking this at all, but when u said that louis thought they could beat ali, it just rushed right back into my memorie... how did u feel when u read louis claim that rocky could beat ali?
i read more and more on braddock everyday, and just last week i came upon this old new york newspaper article from the day after the rumble in the jungle... it was by columnist red smith..he said that he went to madison square garden the night of the fight to watch a closed circuit broadcast of the fight. while they were eating dinner, red spotted dempsey tunney and braddock all dining at the same table, reflecting on the days of ole and sharing a laugh together... red smith went on to say after the fight,"There are three guys at that table who could whip ali on the best night he ever had."
of course neither tunney or braddock would stand a chance in hell, and dempsey would most likely lose himself... but it was an honor that someoen would say that about braddock and the other 2 fighters that i adore. i know u probly do not really care and u probly werent thinking this at all, but when u said that louis thought they could beat ali, it just rushed right back into my memorie... how did u feel when u read louis claim that rocky could beat ali?
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The Great John L
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Please re-read what I posted. I said SOMEONE could say that LL could have continued against McCall. I don't think he could have, but in the fantasy land of BoxRec forums, anything is possible to support the claims of your favorite fighter. You know, Lewis was in his prime @ 36, Tyson was washed up and a mere shell of himself at 24, Walcott retired at his peak at 39yo, 5-11 185 lb HWs can easily destroy fast, powerful and accomplished HWs that are 6 inches taller and 50 lbs heavier...Marciano Frazier wrote: Lewis able to continue against McCall? Show of hands, how many people here actually think Lewis could've gone on to win against McCall, or that the stoppage was inappropriate??? Lewis was lurching forward at the ref when the fight was stopped! What should the guy have done? Jumped out of the way and let Lewis fall back into the fight?
no way does rocky beat lennox.i never liked lewis but he'd have massacred marciano.and yes size does matter when your a little over 13 stone facing a 17/18 stone fighter.also the guy that said lewis didn't have much ability must be out of his mind.gold medals as an amateur and numerous pro world title wins tell you a different story do they not?just because we don't like the man doesn't mean we should be biased.
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BrocktonBlockbuster49
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speak english, i dont know how to convert stones into pounds.
and size does not matter as much in heavyweight. and especially marciano had a lot of strength and KO power. lennox had a vunerable chin, and was a sucker for a deadly overhand right.
u think lennox could keep up with marcianos work rate over 15 rounds????
lennox drops marciano early, marciano contiunes to pound and outhustle lewis until he finds the opening and slams the overhand right into lewis and lewis is out.
and size does not matter as much in heavyweight. and especially marciano had a lot of strength and KO power. lennox had a vunerable chin, and was a sucker for a deadly overhand right.
u think lennox could keep up with marcianos work rate over 15 rounds????
lennox drops marciano early, marciano contiunes to pound and outhustle lewis until he finds the opening and slams the overhand right into lewis and lewis is out.
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The Great John L
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Brockton, I'm not sure where you're getting your facts. Tunney fought more than 3 heavyweights. In addition to Dempsey and Heenan, there was Charley Weinert, Bartley Madden, Johnny Risko, Tommy Gibbons (moved between LH and HW, common then and during Rocky's time), Jack Burke and Erminio Spalla. I'm sure there others as well, but certainly Risko was a contender by anyones standards, as well as Gibbons. And I'm sure with a little research some of the others on the list were probably ranked at one time or another as well.BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:about tunney, tunney got knocked down the fewest out of any heavyeight champ because he had only THREE fights against heavyweight. and when i say three, he did fight more than 3 heavyeights but they were 180 lb guys who werent contenders. the only other contender i could say he fought was johnny risko. the only 2 heavyweight contenders he fougth were a past his priem dempsey and tom heenan. and one of those times he was knocked down by a past his prime dempsey(who could still punch). so it goes to show he only fouht 2 heavyweights dempsey and tom heeney.
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sharkeysboy
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Marciano slaughters Tom Sayers
Marciano breaks John L.s ribs.
Marciano overwhelms Corbett
Marciano walks through Fitzsimmons' punches to score an early ko
Marciano and Jeffries have a war. Marciano wins a split decision.
Marciano is out pointed by Johnson.
Marciano actually kills Willard. Tragic.
Marciano knocks out Dempsey in the middle rounds.
Marciano loses to Tunney on points but wins the rematch with a KO.
Marciano beats Schmeling, Sharkey, Braddock, Carnera, Baer.
Marciano and Louis have a brilliant trilogy, Rocky winning two out of three.
Marciano knocks Patterson's head into the third row. There's talk about banning boxing.
Marciano walks into a Liston straight right and goes down with a thud.
Marciano is outpointed by Ali but knocks him down twice.
Marciano is KO'd by George Foreman.
Marciano is out pointed by Larry Holmes.
Marciano and Tyson have a war. Finally, the Rock lands the right punch and Tyson is on the mat trying to put his mouth piece in.
Marciano KOs Hollyfield in 8 but loses the rematch on points.
Marciano and Bowe knock each other down three times but the bigger Bowe wins with a late TKO.
Marciano KOs Lewis early.
Marciano breaks John L.s ribs.
Marciano overwhelms Corbett
Marciano walks through Fitzsimmons' punches to score an early ko
Marciano and Jeffries have a war. Marciano wins a split decision.
Marciano is out pointed by Johnson.
Marciano actually kills Willard. Tragic.
Marciano knocks out Dempsey in the middle rounds.
Marciano loses to Tunney on points but wins the rematch with a KO.
Marciano beats Schmeling, Sharkey, Braddock, Carnera, Baer.
Marciano and Louis have a brilliant trilogy, Rocky winning two out of three.
Marciano knocks Patterson's head into the third row. There's talk about banning boxing.
Marciano walks into a Liston straight right and goes down with a thud.
Marciano is outpointed by Ali but knocks him down twice.
Marciano is KO'd by George Foreman.
Marciano is out pointed by Larry Holmes.
Marciano and Tyson have a war. Finally, the Rock lands the right punch and Tyson is on the mat trying to put his mouth piece in.
Marciano KOs Hollyfield in 8 but loses the rematch on points.
Marciano and Bowe knock each other down three times but the bigger Bowe wins with a late TKO.
Marciano KOs Lewis early.
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