Boxrec Hall of Fame Voting Results (May 2012)

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Boxrec Hall of Fame Voting Results (May 2012)

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The results are in for the 19th election for the Boxrec Hall of Fame. Jimmy Barry, Jack Delaney,Larry Holmes,Max Schmeling, Freddie Welsh, and Harry Wills have been lected to the Boxrec Hall of Fame! 10 people voted. Delaney had 9 votes, Wills had 8, Barry, Holmes,Schmeling,and Welsh each had 7. 7 votes were needed for election.

6 Votes:
Canto
Griffo
Maxim
McVey
B. Nelson
M. Wolgast

5 Votes:
Arizmendi
Genaro
Moran
Tendler
Cocoa Kid
A. Nelson
Lopez

4 Votes:
Booker
Pryor
Brown
Buchanan
Battalino

3 Votes:
Herman
Mandell
Ramos
Carbajal
Laciar
O'Dowd
Zapata
Chang
J. Sharkey

2 Votes:
Patterson
Villafor
Yuh
Duffy
Kansas
Leto
Yarosz
Kingpetch
Zivic
Apostoli
Carpentier
Laguna

Thanks to Saad off the deck,Seamus,wbsuf,Ezzard,Keithmoonhangover,elmer salsa,hof guy, dempseyfire, and Boxing Buzz for voting.
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I'm embarrassed that wills had to wait this long.
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BoxBuzz wrote:I'm embarrassed that wills had to wait this long.
I would vote for Newsboy over him.
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but....Wills by now has nearly "pop" recognition. And it's called the hall of fame.....not the hall of skill.

So I just expected more people would vote his way.


On the plus side....Pryor was denied his seat for at least one more ballot count.
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Buzz, why specifically don't you think Pryor should be in?
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BoxBuzz wrote:but....Wills by now has nearly "pop" recognition. And it's called the hall of fame.....not the hall of skill.

So I just expected more people would vote his way.


On the plus side....Pryor was denied his seat for at least one more ballot count.
I think Pryor should get in eventually, but I held my vote b/c there are other less famous guys who deserve to get in. Pryor will get in eventually and most likely in the election. I almost didn't vote for Holmes for the same reason, but as he's a clear top 10 all-time HW he deserves to be there.
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Alp...

in my humble opinion.

Pryor and his managers caught and rode a massive run of good luck and fluke circumstances. Oh , and they conducted a few very controlled experiments. And he then dropped out of His prime at a historically fast pace.

I'm not sure there was enough "there" there. I lived very close to cincinatti and caught a lot of his early fights live. I got a kick out of his impact on the sport. I believe he is the Chauncey Gardner (Being There) of boxing.

Cervantes in his prime would have notched him.
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There are just too many more deserving fighters, by 2023, or so, Aaron will be on my list.
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BoxBuzz wrote:Alp...

in my humble opinion.

Pryor and his managers caught and rode a massive run of good luck and fluke circumstances. Oh , and they conducted a few very controlled experiments. And he then dropped out of His prime at a historically fast pace.

I'm not sure there was enough "there" there. I lived very close to cincinatti and caught a lot of his early fights live. I got a kick out of his impact on the sport. I believe he is the Chauncey Gardner (Being There) of boxing.

Cervantes in his prime would have notched him.
I am not sure I understand all of this; but for one thing it seems that you were not impressed by his earlier fights that you got to see live and I a gather you were not that impressed. I think you have to take into consideration that he was improved a lot as he got experience.

Don't know about the run of good luck and "controlled expieriments." Are you saying he didn't fight good competition? To some extent, I would go a long with that. He could have fought Curry, Mamby and costello. However he did beat Argeullo twice in great fights. Yes, Cervantes was past his best, but he was still a good fighter, and Pryor blew him out. He was 11-0 in title fights with 9 kos. You think Cervantes was better and that is fair enough. However, there are 120 fighters in our Hall of Fame. Do you really think there are that many better than Pryor?

I think you may be too close to the situation and aren't being fair to Pryor.
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dempseyfire wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:but....Wills by now has nearly "pop" recognition. And it's called the hall of fame.....not the hall of skill.

So I just expected more people would vote his way.


On the plus side....Pryor was denied his seat for at least one more ballot count.
I think Pryor should get in eventually, but I held my vote b/c there are other less famous guys who deserve to get in. Pryor will get in eventually and most likely in the election. I almost didn't vote for Holmes for the same reason, but as he's a clear top 10 all-time HW he deserves to be there.
I don't think he is going to get voted in anytime soon. He only got 4 out of 9 votes; and that is about how he has done in the last several elections. I know what you are saying about some fighters getting more attention that other. I just think people should just vote for for whover I think is the best regardless of how much attention they get or whether they like a fighter or not.
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