Elmer's top 100 list official thread

[Jaywheel]

Let me first say that this is a very serious thread on a matter that has been widely debated and discussed on this forum for over 5 years now and is in no way meant to stir sh!t, but rather clarify things once and for all.

I will also say that my private team of investigators, composed of graduates from the Ryerson University all the way to Oxford, has gathered an important amount of data since 2006.

Lets go back in time a little, shall we... In 06, talks of a top 100 list weren't the fashion yet. In fact, elmer could easily go to the library and bring his top 50 list along with him, which he posted a couple of times back then.

In 2007 was the first time we heard about the top 100 list. At that time, the inclusion of such fighters as McAuliffe, Barry and Ryan in weren't left unknown to the posters of the BOTP forum. After being severely burned and owned by the legendary granberry( of whom he later became a rather cute devotee), in which he found and adversary slightly harder to deal with than Decagon, the list was from about then often referred to, but never published.

Ever since, it's been brought up in discussions at times, left asleep at others, but since the turn of the last decade, more and more people have been asking to see it. Non-believers will say it doesn't exist. Half urban legend / half religion, the improbable list is a shadow obscuring this forum like a dark cloud.

Enough evidence suggests that such a list could exist. Clues given by it's originator along the years suggest that this important benchmark of a list is a weight that no man should carry alone. I too, would not bring such a list with me to go browse at the library. Only the naives would. It is why I will be the Kurt Russell of this list. This thread will be it's Stargate.

The data collected here can be backed up. The picks in bold are locked as stated so by the creator of the list. For most of the others, I will gladly correct the order of certain names if you point out that elmer specifically stated something to that effect. Climbs and Drops of +/- 5 are the limit of what will be accepted. What is posted as a list here has been through exhaustive revisions by the best academics I could gather for this project.

The list isn't complete, but what I have is solid. Neo just doesn't believe quite enough yet.

With your help and hopefully elmer's, I think it is possible to finalize this project. Once done, it can be stickied or posted in the HoF thread for achiving purposes, and there will be no more shenanigans about this list.

For a new world order in this forum, here's the awaited:

elmersalsa official top 100 list

1 Armstrong
2 SRR
3 Langford
4 Duran
5 Pep
6 Greb
7 Ali
8 Wilde
9 Louis
10 Gans
11 B.Leonard
12 Charles
13 Monzon
14 Saddler
15 Canzoneri top 15
16 Moore
17 R.Leonard between 15 and 20
18 P.Whitaker
19 Johnson #3HW
20 Jofre
21 Hagler
22 JCC
23 Brown
24 Dempsey top 25
25 Ketchel
26 Ross not top 20
27 Holyfield
28 Walker
29 Aruguello (between #30)
30 Griffith
31 Tunney not top 25
32 McGovern
33 Williams
34 Gavilan
35 Chocolate
36 Sanchez
37 Napoles
38 Hearns not top 20
39 Walcott
40 Marciano #4 HW
41 Pacquiao
42 Perez
43 Fitzsimmons top 25 to 50
44 McLarnin top 50
45 T.Lewis not top 20
46 Olivares
47 Basilio top 50
48 Frazier top 50
49 Tiger top 50
50 Spinks top 50
51 Miller
52 Zarate
53 Loughran
54 Elorde
55 Holmes
56 Hopkins top 50
57 Gomez
58 Saldivar
59 Pryor
60 Burley not top 50
61 Harada
62 PBF not top 50
63
64 Fullmer
65
66 Foreman
67
68 McCallum
69 Lamotta
70 P.Jackson
71 Galaxy
72
73 Villa
74
75 RJJ
76 Benitez
77
78
79 McFarland
80 Ryan
81 Benvenutti
82 McAuliffe
83 Canto
84 Lopez
85 Ortiz
86 Calzaghe
87 Pedroza
88 Lynch
89 Foster not top 50
90 Barry
91 Tyson between 90 and 100
92 Delaney top 100
93 Dundee
94 Barrera top 100
95 Zapata
96 Zale top 100
97 Liston
98 Nelson not top 50
99 Carbajal greatest chicano
100 Herman


Not on the list:
Lennox
DLH
Morales
JMM

Comments and suggestions are welcome.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Make this shit a Wiki page D

[Tomasino]

Buchanan, Laguna and Pedroza can fill in the gaps, they are complete fighters my friend.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Buchanan, Laguna and Pedroza can fill in the gaps, they are complete fighters my friend.

But where is Juan LaPorte?

[Jaywheel]

Buchanan, Laguna and Pedroza can fill in the gaps, they are complete fighters my friend.

I found that Buchanan was the best brit fighter of the last 50 years, wasn't sure if it warranted an inclusion.

Pedroza is #87.

[Tomasino]

Buchanan, Laguna and Pedroza can fill in the gaps, they are complete fighters my friend.

I found that Buchanan was the best brit fighter of the last 50 years, wasn't sure if it warranted an inclusion.

Pedroza is #87.

[Kaber]

Nicolino Locche?

[Borinken25]

Buchanan, Laguna and Pedroza can fill in the gaps, they are complete fighters my friend.

I found that Buchanan was the best brit fighter of the last 50 years, wasn't sure if it warranted an inclusion.

Pedroza is #87.

You are wrong Jaywheel. Pedroza was a more complete fighter than SRR so he should be ranked ahaed of him. All of this should be ranked ahead of SRR and Armstrong because according to Elmer's world there were more complete fighters than them. Here is his list:

Marvin Hagler
Eusebio Pedroza
Sugar Ray Leonard
Ezzard Charles
Roberto Duran
Salvador Sanchez
Ismael Laguna
Eder Jofre

[stepcideee]

they are complete fighters my friend.

['Frilla]

they are complete fighters my friend.

Yep, more complete than SRR and Armstrong.

[elmersalsa]

Very funny, but that is not my list, sir. You did a good job in trying to expose my list, but definately, it is not my list.

['Frilla]

Definitely.

You should post your real list then. This list looks quite accurate.

[Jaywheel]

Very funny, but that is not my list, sir. You did a good job in trying to expose my list, but definately, it is not my list.

To 50 is pretty much spot on if you ask me. I will gladly accept your corrections and edit the list.

Buchanan, Laguna and Pedroza can fill in the gaps, they are complete fighters my friend.

I found that Buchanan was the best brit fighter of the last 50 years, wasn't sure if it warranted an inclusion.

Pedroza is #87.

You are wrong Jaywheel. Pedroza was a more complete fighter than SRR so he should be ranked ahaed of him. All of this should be ranked ahead of SRR and Armstrong because according to Elmer's world there were more complete fighters than them. Here is his list:

Marvin Hagler
Eusebio Pedroza
Sugar Ray Leonard
Ezzard Charles
Roberto Duran
Salvador Sanchez
Ismael Laguna
Eder Jofre

The list isn't about most complete fighters, or else Meldrick Taylor would be in the top 10. It is a top 100 P4P all-time list. Stay on topic please.

Nicolino Locche?

Indeed brought up a few times by elmer. As were Rodriguez and Laguna.
I'll let elmer tell us where they rank, IF they do make the list.

[elmersalsa]

I congratulate those investigators about finding bits and pieces and comments that I have made over the years about my top 100 greatest fighters pound per pound list. As you could see, I vary from year to year depending on more further reviews. Some of the spots in this ranking are about correct. Some don't. I will come with the list, no matter what anybody in this forum has to say. I think is as accurate as I reviewed the records and putting a lot of consideration about the ranking matters. Everybody got different lists. Mine is not an exception.

Good job investigators, but, the list is not as accurate as mine.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I congratulate those investigators about finding bits and pieces and comments that I have made over the years about my top 100 greatest fighters pound per pound list. As you could see, I vary from year to year depending on more further reviews. Some of the spots in this ranking are about correct. Some don't. I will come with the list, no matter what anybody in this forum has to say. I think is as accurate as I reviewed the records and putting a lot of consideration about the ranking matters. Everybody got different lists. Mine is not an exception.

Good job investigators, but, the list is not as accurate as mine.

You vary from hour to hour. The fact is you have no top 100 list, you're nothing but a blowhard buffoon trolling on a message board.

[Goodnight, Irene]

I congratulate those investigators about finding bits and pieces and comments that I have made over the years about my top 100 greatest fighters pound per pound list. As you could see, I vary from year to year depending on more further reviews. Some of the spots in this ranking are about correct. Some don't. I will come with the list, no matter what anybody in this forum has to say. I think is as accurate as I reviewed the records and putting a lot of consideration about the ranking matters. Everybody got different lists. Mine is not an exception.

Good job investigators, but, the list is not as accurate as mine.

You vary from hour to hour. The fact is you have no top 100 list, you're nothing but a blowhard buffoon trolling on a message board.

The great SaadOffTheDeck.

[elmersalsa]

The list exist...You gotta give these guys enough credit for trying hard of finding some of my past posts.

Saadofthedeck and Goodnight Irene: Are they married to each other or something? Or are they like Batman and Robin? Never seen such great superheroes in action in this forum.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Your attempt at humor was an unadulterated failure. Stick to posting on Boxing, that stuff is gold.

[Goodnight, Irene]

The list exist...You gotta give these guys enough credit for trying hard of finding some of my past posts.

Saadofthedeck and Goodnight Irene: Are they married to each other or something? Or are they like Batman and Robin? Never seen such great superheroes in action in this forum.

Why cant you prove the list exists?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

The Lochness Monster ate his homework.

[elmersalsa]

The list exist...You gotta give these guys enough credit for trying hard of finding some of my past posts.

Saadofthedeck and Goodnight Irene: Are they married to each other or something? Or are they like Batman and Robin? Never seen such great superheroes in action in this forum.

Why cant you prove the list exists?

The list exist. I know you may not like my list, but indeed, it exist

[Goodnight, Irene]

Can we see it then?

[MEISINGER]

Can we see it then?

what is the big hold up?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Be very quiet, I'm hunting my list.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Can we see it then?

what is the big hold up?

Good question.