Should Haye vs Chisora go ahead?

john welsh · Post by **john welsh** » 24 May 2012, 06:51

Or should it be cancelled..whats your opinions?
I think david haye is a money making disgrace IMO!

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 24 May 2012, 06:57

I am in favour of any fight involving the top British heavyweights, being Haye, Chisora, Fury & Price.

I'd even be happy to see Fury or Price in against Audley.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 24 May 2012, 07:04

Yes, without a doubt.

Adamj1987 · Post by **Adamj1987** » 24 May 2012, 07:05

only if sanctioned by BBBoC in the UK anywhere else fine

milpool · Post by **milpool** » 24 May 2012, 07:06

Having shelled out for a ticket...I'm a definite yes. As for the other aspects of it, well it's been done to death hasn't it?!

mark a h · Post by **mark a h** » 24 May 2012, 07:25

I have mixed feelings on this bout.
However this is professional boxing and its there to make money,as long as it isnt breaking criminal law its good to go.
Morals are another thing all together and rarely are implemented in buisness.
It seems to be- make money by all means necessary.
And as long as you dont break the law,its acceptable.

T.M.K · Post by **T.M.K** » 24 May 2012, 07:30

Yes - but on the continent!

(In the UK? Only if sanctioned by the BBBofC).

"T.M.K"

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 24 May 2012, 07:42

Not under the Luxemberg licence in the UK.

Its been a great selling point by Warren though, how much attention would this fight have made had it been sanctioned by the BBBoC?? It is a fight between a fighter who has lost 3 of his last 4 and a fighter who has stank the place out in his last two fights. Neither boxer deserve the attention they are getting. the "Licenced to thrill" tag line is really a fingers up to the board also.

Mitchell vs Burns is a much better fight IMO, one that I have more interest in.

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 24 May 2012, 07:53

john welsh wrote:Or should it be cancelled..whats your opinions?
I think david haye is a money making disgrace IMO!

It should go ahead.

If they want to fight each & they're allowed to do so, under whoever's jurisdiction, then they're fully entitled to do so.

cockneygymrat · Post by **cockneygymrat** » 24 May 2012, 12:02

Definitely.

jessi · Post by **jessi** » 24 May 2012, 12:48

Wales wrote:Yes, without a doubt.

X 2

Spiker · Post by **Spiker** » 24 May 2012, 13:17

Arguably the two best heavies in britain fighting. Damn right it should go ahead sod the bbboc its all about what the fans want its a huge fight. Shame the bbboc cant have any money from it (Bless them)!!

cockneygymrat · Post by **cockneygymrat** » 24 May 2012, 13:24

I still see the voting is close on a website which has published a lot of negative stuff about the fight.

Coco · Post by **Coco** » 24 May 2012, 14:17

cockneygymrat wrote:I still see the voting is close on a website which has published a lot of negative stuff about the fight.

That is probably because you and Boxingchat have 10 accounts!

Dan Dares · Post by **Dan Dares** » 24 May 2012, 14:36

Coco wrote:
cockneygymrat wrote:I still see the voting is close on a website which has published a lot of negative stuff about the fight.
That is probably because you and Boxingchat have 10 accounts!

taffytoon · Post by **taffytoon** » 24 May 2012, 15:09

This circus side show should not be taking place in the UK.

Final round · Post by **Final round** » 24 May 2012, 15:15

Yep strike while the irons hot, it's a shame it couldn't be worked out with the board before the fight was announced

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 24 May 2012, 15:17

taffytoon wrote:This circus side show should not be taking place in the UK.

Two world class British heavyweights fighting each other in Britain in an exciting grudge match. It must be stopped!

Finn · Post by **Finn** » 24 May 2012, 16:52

MachoMan09 wrote:
Horse wrote:
taffytoon wrote:This circus side show should not be taking place in the UK.
Two world class British heavyweights fighting each other in Britain in an exciting grudge match. It must be stopped!
Does the fact Chisora has fought for a world title make him a world class boxer? When all the politics are removed from the equation, I think the match is a good comeback fight for Haye but I don't think Chisora is world class. I think his manager has moved him shrewdly in order to get a decent return from a guy who wasn't a domestic ticket seller.

Id agree with that, chisora is a game competitor but effectively a punch back for haye, in fact i would say he will probably make it a very exciting fight. Out boxing a massively overrated helenius doesnt speak volumes to me, i think he will get dropped by haye about 3 times and maybe put haye on the canvas once only for him to get up and dish out some punishment as usual.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 24 May 2012, 16:54

MachoMan09 wrote:Does the fact Chisora has fought for a world title make him a world class boxer?

Beating Helenius on most people's scorecards and giving Vitali Klitschko a good fight would suggest he is world class.

MachoMan09 wrote:When all the politics are removed from the equation, I think the match is a good comeback fight for Haye but I don't think Chisora is world class. I think his manager has moved him shrewdly in order to get a decent return from a guy who wasn't a domestic ticket seller.

Chisora has been matched against some of the best fighters in the division in the last 12 months and he has done well. He arguably has a better heavyweight record than Haye.

Finn · Post by **Finn** » 24 May 2012, 17:33

Horse wrote:
MachoMan09 wrote:Does the fact Chisora has fought for a world title make him a world class boxer?
Beating Helenius on most people's scorecards and giving Vitali Klitschko a good fight would suggest he is world class.

MachoMan09 wrote:When all the politics are removed from the equation, I think the match is a good comeback fight for Haye but I don't think Chisora is world class. I think his manager has moved him shrewdly in order to get a decent return from a guy who wasn't a domestic ticket seller.
Chisora has been matched against some of the best fighters in the division in the last 12 months and he has done well. He arguably has a better heavyweight record than Haye.

Really, he lost to fury, helenius and vitali; you have to win to have a better record than haye. Audley harrison is arguably better than fury and haye annihilated him, he beat ruiz and monty barrett who are better than anyone chisora has beaten and he beat valuev.

Chisoras highest honour was briefly holding the lonsdale, even if you take into account chisora should have had the win against helenius. What exactly had helenius done? he was massively, massively overhyped by people who were desperate to see someone capable of competing with K2.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 24 May 2012, 19:04

kingfinn wrote:Really, he lost to fury, helenius and vitali; you have to win to have a better record than haye. Audley harrison is arguably better than fury and haye annihilated him, he beat ruiz and monty barrett who are better than anyone chisora has beaten and he beat valuev.

Chisoras highest honour was briefly holding the lonsdale, even if you take into account chisora should have had the win against helenius. What exactly had helenius done? he was massively, massively overhyped by people who were desperate to see someone capable of competing with K2.

He beat Helenius on most people's scorecards and he gave Vitali a better fight than Haye gave Wladimir.

Haye's best win at heavyweight is against Valuev, is he any better than Helenius? Maybe he is, but it is up for debate.

Haye - Barrett, Valuev, Ruiz, Harrison, W. Klitschko
Chisora - Williams, Sexton, Fury, Helenius, V. Klitschko

If the Helenius fight is counted as a win for Chisora and Chisora's more competitive loss against a Klitschko is taken into consideration: Then Chisora's record is competitive with Haye's, although the Fury loss (fat excuse or not) probably gives Haye the edge.

Finn · Post by **Finn** » 24 May 2012, 21:41

Horse wrote:
kingfinn wrote:Really, he lost to fury, helenius and vitali; you have to win to have a better record than haye. Audley harrison is arguably better than fury and haye annihilated him, he beat ruiz and monty barrett who are better than anyone chisora has beaten and he beat valuev.

Chisoras highest honour was briefly holding the lonsdale, even if you take into account chisora should have had the win against helenius. What exactly had helenius done? he was massively, massively overhyped by people who were desperate to see someone capable of competing with K2.
He beat Helenius on most people's scorecards and he gave Vitali a better fight than Haye gave Wladimir.

Haye's best win at heavyweight is against Valuev, is he any better than Helenius? Maybe he is, but it is up for debate.

Haye - Barrett, Valuev, Ruiz, Harrison, W. Klitschko
Chisora - Williams, Sexton, Fury, Helenius, V. Klitschko

If the Helenius fight is counted as a win for Chisora and Chisora's more competitive loss against a Klitschko is taken into consideration: Then Chisora's record is competitive with Haye's, although the Fury loss (fat excuse or not) probably gives Haye the edge.

disagree chisora fought a completely shot williams and sexton is along the same lines of maybe bonin, chisora fought the older slower brother who was carrying an injury. Haye fought the number 1 hw and didnt even get hurt with a broken toe

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Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 25 May 2012, 04:16

Yup....... and the board should take a long hard look at themselves. They shouldn't cave into the the daily mail readers, this is boxing it's a rogues game

cockneygymrat · Post by **cockneygymrat** » 25 May 2012, 04:24

Chambers, the daily mail readers actually voted 71% in favour of the fight happening. Even this website who have been completely negative in its coverage seem to be in favour of the fight.