Jamie Moore

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Re: Jamie Moore

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Given that the reason he retired was due to advice from the docs I'd hope not.
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Re: Jamie Moore

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He still looked in good shape at the Price-Sexton fight on Saturday
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Re: Jamie Moore

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If the board say he's safe to box (as he seems to be implying on his twitter) then fair enough. I just worry about the fact that he didn't look anywhere near the fighter he once was in that last fight. If the time off has reinvigorated him, then great. But I'd hate to see a guy who had some truly memorable fights come back and just get beaten up.
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Wasn't it Manny Steward who said (maybe half jokingly) that he would like to work with Jamie should he think about a comeback - having done a small session with him.

The rest might have done him good. I wish him all the best anyway.
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Re: Jamie Moore

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J-Mo, with all due respect, please stay retired.

You gave me two of the best fights I've ever seen.
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Good post poncey x2
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Re: Jamie Moore

Post by winkveron »

Looking in good shape in a suit as a spectator at a fight is different than being in the right shape to fight. I hope he stays retired. Had a great career, and now is doing well as a pundit. I like his segments for Ringside too, at the different gyms.
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please dont come back jaime
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Re: Jamie Moore

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A brilliant lad from what I have seen of him, also provided us boxing fans with some magnificent fights, who can forget the Michael Jones fights, then the Macklin fight. They must have took a lot out of him which is why I think he should stay retired as my fear is what someone has already stated, and that is he will lose against someone he would never have done so when he was at his very best.
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Re: Jamie Moore

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The trouble with passing medicals is that they dont show anything up until it is already too late, when physical damage is visible and irreversible. I read somewhere a while ago that a scan hasnt been devised yet that will show when a fighter is 'shot' or has had too many hard fights, but most knowledgable fans will be able to see it with their own eyes. Dont do it Jamie.
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Re: Jamie Moore

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It sounds like he is going about it the right way, its just a shame in this world of social networking and twitter it came out before anything was official.

I think its very well all of us saying "stay retired", I think the decision is up to Jamie ultimately and by seeing if he has "still got it" before embarking on any paid fights is the right way to go about it. It is better than him contemplating what if etc - he could end up on the slippery slope to depression if he doesn't give it a good go in training.

If he just listens to friends and not himself it will itch away at him for years.... so I say give it a good six /eight weeks in the gym, see if he likes the long days in training and the hard spars. If the appetite is still there and so is the ability, then go for it.... if he realises "oh this is too hard now, eff it" - then he'll have closure.
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Re: Jamie Moore

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stujones wrote:Wasn't it Manny Steward who said (maybe half jokingly) that he would like to work with Jamie should he think about a comeback - having done a small session with him.

The rest might have done him good. I wish him all the best anyway.
Manny Steward says owt for a tenner.
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Re: Jamie Moore

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stujones wrote:It sounds like he is going about it the right way, its just a shame in this world of social networking and twitter it came out before anything was official.

I think its very well all of us saying "stay retired", I think the decision is up to Jamie ultimately and by seeing if he has "still got it" before embarking on any paid fights is the right way to go about it. It is better than him contemplating what if etc - he could end up on the slippery slope to depression if he doesn't give it a good go in training.

If he just listens to friends and not himself it will itch away at him for years.... so I say give it a good six /eight weeks in the gym, see if he likes the long days in training and the hard spars. If the appetite is still there and so is the ability, then go for it.... if he realises "oh this is too hard now, eff it" - then he'll have closure.

But boxing is littered with stories of fighters who refused to heed freinds/fans advise and came back to have those few fights too many. Im not seeking to be alarmist but just remember the reasons given for Jamies retirement in the first place and with that in mind do not think he should come back. Its true that he seems in great shape, and that is most likely down to him getting out at the right moment, which is all the more reason why he should resist the tempation to fight again and instead concentrate on his media work which he does very well and can have a bright future in hopefully...
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Re: Jamie Moore

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Absolutely Fatcity.... completely agree. All I am saying is give him a behind closed doors camp, with sparring for 6/8 weeks, and let him assess if he has got it.

Thats what Steve Collins did - he seems to be content in his retirement.

Jamie, seems to have a senisble head on his shoulders. He quit the sport cause of some concerns with his scan. Now though he has heard that this is fairly common, let him see if he still has the fire, and off course he will have a scan before getting his licence.
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Re: Jamie Moore

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Hiya fella's. Seeing as this is out in the open through social networking, and the fact it's made a topic, I may as well give you the lowdown.

When I retired it was at a point when various factors combined took me to the stage where I had enough. Injuries after injuries (shoulders, Achilles, hip, back...), struggles with the weight (my own fault, greedy b@stard!) and feeling like no matter what I did I couldn't get a world title shot, added to that the scan thing, and my head wasn't in a very good place going into my last fight.

Fast forward two years, and I'm injury free (at the moment!), rested, fitter and lighter than I ever was I between fights (12st 3.5 now without dieting compared to 13st 5-6lb when fighting AAARRRGGGHHH!!) and I've fell back in love with it.

Now listen, I feel like I'm a pretty sensible lad, and I promise u if I thought I wasn't at least as good as I was before (forget last fight as mentally wasn't there) then I wouldn't even contemplate fighting again. I wouldn't ruin what I've already achieved.

I've been training for 4 weeks now including a week in Tenerife and a week in Portugal with Brian Rose, and I feel great at the minute, but if my injuries start creeping back or instep up the sparring and I don't feel like its still there then I WILL NOT FIGHT AGAIN. I'm doing this now because I feel like I still can, and I don't want to live my life wondering "I wonder what would have happened if I'd have gave it one last go when I was still young enough and I'd been on those training camps in 2012?". It would drive me mad. I'm giving myself another 4 weeks or so where I'll step my training up again and see if 1) I still want it 2) I've still got it and 3) my injuries don't come creeping back. If alls good I'll seriously contemplate giving it one last bash, as I haven't made my mind up either way yet as I don't want disappointment. If the wheels fall off in the meantime, then at least I'll know for the rest of my life that I tried. I can live with that.
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Re: Jamie Moore

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Can't really argue with that Jamie.
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cant grumble jaime, i wish you the best in your endeavor
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Mooresy wrote:Hiya fella's. Seeing as this is out in the open through social networking, and the fact it's made a topic, I may as well give you the lowdown.

When I retired it was at a point when various factors combined took me to the stage where I had enough. Injuries after injuries (shoulders, Achilles, hip, back...), struggles with the weight (my own fault, greedy b@stard!) and feeling like no matter what I did I couldn't get a world title shot, added to that the scan thing, and my head wasn't in a very good place going into my last fight.

Fast forward two years, and I'm injury free (at the moment!), rested, fitter and lighter than I ever was I between fights (12st 3.5 now without dieting compared to 13st 5-6lb when fighting AAARRRGGGHHH!!) and I've fell back in love with it.

Now listen, I feel like I'm a pretty sensible lad, and I promise u if I thought I wasn't at least as good as I was before (forget last fight as mentally wasn't there) then I wouldn't even contemplate fighting again. I wouldn't ruin what I've already achieved.

I've been training for 4 weeks now including a week in Tenerife and a week in Portugal with Brian Rose, and I feel great at the minute, but if my injuries start creeping back or instep up the sparring and I don't feel like its still there then I WILL NOT FIGHT AGAIN. I'm doing this now because I feel like I still can, and I don't want to live my life wondering "I wonder what would have happened if I'd have gave it one last go when I was still young enough and I'd been on those training camps in 2012?". It would drive me mad. I'm giving myself another 4 weeks or so where I'll step my training up again and see if 1) I still want it 2) I've still got it and 3) my injuries don't come creeping back. If alls good I'll seriously contemplate giving it one last bash, as I haven't made my mind up either way yet as I don't want disappointment. If the wheels fall off in the meantime, then at least I'll know for the rest of my life that I tried. I can live with that.
And that is why the man is a bonafide British boxing legend :bow:
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Quality post there by Jamie Moore, cant ask for anymore than that.
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Re: Jamie Moore

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There you go, straight from the horse's mouth and that's why this is a great forum and Jamie Moore is a class act.

Selfishly I would like to cheer him on again but after reading that know that the decision he reaches will be for the right reasons. Whatever will be will be.
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You've got my support whatever your decision is Jamie
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Mooresy wrote:Hiya fella's. Seeing as this is out in the open through social networking, and the fact it's made a topic, I may as well give you the lowdown.

When I retired it was at a point when various factors combined took me to the stage where I had enough. Injuries after injuries (shoulders, Achilles, hip, back...), struggles with the weight (my own fault, greedy b@stard!) and feeling like no matter what I did I couldn't get a world title shot, added to that the scan thing, and my head wasn't in a very good place going into my last fight.

Fast forward two years, and I'm injury free (at the moment!), rested, fitter and lighter than I ever was I between fights (12st 3.5 now without dieting compared to 13st 5-6lb when fighting AAARRRGGGHHH!!) and I've fell back in love with it.

Now listen, I feel like I'm a pretty sensible lad, and I promise u if I thought I wasn't at least as good as I was before (forget last fight as mentally wasn't there) then I wouldn't even contemplate fighting again. I wouldn't ruin what I've already achieved.

I've been training for 4 weeks now including a week in Tenerife and a week in Portugal with Brian Rose, and I feel great at the minute, but if my injuries start creeping back or instep up the sparring and I don't feel like its still there then I WILL NOT FIGHT AGAIN. I'm doing this now because I feel like I still can, and I don't want to live my life wondering "I wonder what would have happened if I'd have gave it one last go when I was still young enough and I'd been on those training camps in 2012?". It would drive me mad. I'm giving myself another 4 weeks or so where I'll step my training up again and see if 1) I still want it 2) I've still got it and 3) my injuries don't come creeping back. If alls good I'll seriously contemplate giving it one last bash, as I haven't made my mind up either way yet as I don't want disappointment. If the wheels fall off in the meantime, then at least I'll know for the rest of my life that I tried. I can live with that.
No, it not just sounds like you are going about it the right way - you ARE going about it the right way.

A pitty it got out there through twitter/facebook - but your being perfectly sensible. Great attitude as always.

Go for it Jamie, it will be eating away inside of you if you don't give the camp a good old go. Hard sparring.
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Re: Jamie Moore

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Mooresy wrote:Hiya fella's. Seeing as this is out in the open through social networking, and the fact it's made a topic, I may as well give you the lowdown.

When I retired it was at a point when various factors combined took me to the stage where I had enough. Injuries after injuries (shoulders, Achilles, hip, back...), struggles with the weight (my own fault, greedy b@stard!) and feeling like no matter what I did I couldn't get a world title shot, added to that the scan thing, and my head wasn't in a very good place going into my last fight.

Fast forward two years, and I'm injury free (at the moment!), rested, fitter and lighter than I ever was I between fights (12st 3.5 now without dieting compared to 13st 5-6lb when fighting AAARRRGGGHHH!!) and I've fell back in love with it.

Now listen, I feel like I'm a pretty sensible lad, and I promise u if I thought I wasn't at least as good as I was before (forget last fight as mentally wasn't there) then I wouldn't even contemplate fighting again. I wouldn't ruin what I've already achieved.

I've been training for 4 weeks now including a week in Tenerife and a week in Portugal with Brian Rose, and I feel great at the minute, but if my injuries start creeping back or instep up the sparring and I don't feel like its still there then I WILL NOT FIGHT AGAIN. I'm doing this now because I feel like I still can, and I don't want to live my life wondering "I wonder what would have happened if I'd have gave it one last go when I was still young enough and I'd been on those training camps in 2012?". It would drive me mad. I'm giving myself another 4 weeks or so where I'll step my training up again and see if 1) I still want it 2) I've still got it and 3) my injuries don't come creeping back. If alls good I'll seriously contemplate giving it one last bash, as I haven't made my mind up either way yet as I don't want disappointment. If the wheels fall off in the meantime, then at least I'll know for the rest of my life that I tried. I can live with that.
Very best of luck with it.
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Good luck Jamie, hope it works out, :TU:
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Re: Jamie Moore

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Genuinely Jamie - is it gonna be Middle or Super Middle ?
Whichever, all the very best from Team Rhodes - whatever the outcome is, stay retired, or have another pop.
Don't come back at LM - I couldn't watch a rematch with Rhodesy !!!!!
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