Betting thread

[The Insider]

Price to beat sexton by stoppage is 4/9 @ totesport and Betfred. I'd get on this now as I reckon these odds will come in significantly approaching the fight.

This is a pro bet, a hail-mary, fill your boots, mortgage bet. I don't have the balls and will, as usual, watch meekly as the odds get shorter and shorter.

For sure matey. Had a sizable bet on fury to stop rogan and see this one going the same imo. The fury and price stoppage are my big bets of the year.

[SteveDow]

Also doubled up Phil Taylor to win the Premier League darts tomorrow and the Price fight not to go the distance at evens for the double with Sky Bet.

[reggaereggae]

Shite - ignored Pianeta W pts McCall at 4/6...... I thought it looked good, but hey you have to place money if you have confidence..........

[Deno1986]

I got 18/5 on a West Ham/Bayern double this weekend

Brilliant odds them. Bayern are 5/6 to win the match - the bookies are a bit off with this one, they should be at least 1/2 IMO. After all they are playing a depleted Chelsea side at home.

[Neri]

I'm thinking of throwing a few quid on the Price KO for rounds 1-3.

Price stops a lot early and although this is a step up in competition I can't see how much Sexton has left. With the hometown crowd and big height advantage I can see this ending early.

[The Insider]

Price to beat sexton by stoppage is 4/9 @ totesport and Betfred. I'd get on this now as I reckon these odds will come in significantly approaching the fight.

This is a pro bet, a hail-mary, fill your boots, mortgage bet. I don't have the balls and will, as usual, watch meekly as the odds get shorter and shorter.

Hope you all got on this. This was free money as far as I'm concerned. Thats my big bets done for the year now I think unless anything tasty comes up in between.

[jamiedavies02]

Carl Froch 28(20)-2(0) v Lucian Bute 30(24)-0

On Paper

Froch comes into this fight ranked 3 by Boxrec and is a former 2x WBC champion as well as the Super Six runner up. His height is recorded at 6'1 with a reach of 75. Froch has fought the last few years of his career at the top level, the current ranking of his last 5 opponents have been 1 (L UD), 10 (W MD), 7 (W UD), 5 (L UD) and 9 (W SD). He has (as far I can see) only been down once in his pro career (v Jermain Taylor) an is known for his granite chin. Despite his reputation as a brawler/ big-puncher - he only has 1 stoppage win since 2008. (7 fights (v Jermain Taylor)). He is also a former ABA amatuer champion, despite this he does seem to lose a number of rounds.Bute on the other hand, is currently ranked 2 by Boxrec and is the current IBF champion. He is half an inch taller than Froch but his reach is 3in shoter. He boxes out of a southpaw stance. His previous 5 opponents have been ranked 10 (W UD), 34 (W KO), 12 (W TKO), n/a (W KO) and 20 (W TKO). Again, as far as i can see he has never been down in his pro career. His last 7 out 8 fights have ended inside the distance. He is a former Bronze medalist at the World Championships and this has seen him barely lose a round as a pro.Common Opponents

Both men have faught Glen Johnson - with Froch winning a MD and Bute a UD. Also, they have both stopped Brian Magee - Froch in 11 rounds (only 1 round in it on the cards at the time) and Bute in 10.

In my opinion Bute won more convincingly than Froch on both occasions.

In The Ring

I've researched Frochs worst performances and highlighted a few things:

v Ward - He was outjabbed despite a reach advantage. Ward neutralised Frochs power by moving backwards. Froch was to slow

v Kessler - He was not as busy as Kessler and was too easy to hit

v Taylor - Got caught wide open with an overhand right

v Dirrell - Froch was on the front foot whilst Dirrell counter-punched and clinched.

I can find no major faults with Bute as at the moment he has never been in any trouble. If i was being picky I would say he isn't the quickest

Conclusion

Whilst Froch has dropped rounds at the higher level, Bute has barely lost a round at a level just below the top. It's clear that Froch has great boxing ability - as shown when outpointing Abraham but he gets drawn into a brawl too easily - the hometown fans will not help this situation either. Froch has also struggled against southpaws. As Bute has never been stopped and Froch has no recent KO history, im going to rule out a Froch KO win. That being said, if Froch is to win it wil be on points - but as i've already said Bute has barely lost a round, however this is in Frochs hometown and we all know how bias home town judges can be. Bute also has tremendous power with a string of recent KO wins - but Froch has never been stopped.

I see this being a close fight and if a stoppage comes - the winner will be Bute.

Suggested Bet

Carl Froch and Lucian Bute to DRAW 25/1 @ Paddy Power and Ladbrokes

[The Insider]

Carl Froch 28(20)-2(0) v Lucian Bute 30(24)-0

On Paper

Froch comes into this fight ranked 3 by Boxrec and is a former 2x WBC champion as well as the Super Six runner up. His height is recorded at 6'1 with a reach of 75. Froch has fought the last few years of his career at the top level, the current ranking of his last 5 opponents have been 1 (L UD), 10 (W MD), 7 (W UD), 5 (L UD) and 9 (W SD). He has (as far I can see) only been down once in his pro career (v Jermain Taylor) an is known for his granite chin. Despite his reputation as a brawler/ big-puncher - he only has 1 stoppage win since 2008. (7 fights (v Jermain Taylor)). He is also a former ABA amatuer champion, despite this he does seem to lose a number of rounds.Bute on the other hand, is currently ranked 2 by Boxrec and is the current IBF champion. He is half an inch taller than Froch but his reach is 3in shoter. He boxes out of a southpaw stance. His previous 5 opponents have been ranked 10 (W UD), 34 (W KO), 12 (W TKO), n/a (W KO) and 20 (W TKO). Again, as far as i can see he has never been down in his pro career. His last 7 out 8 fights have ended inside the distance. He is a former Bronze medalist at the World Championships and this has seen him barely lose a round as a pro.Common Opponents

Both men have faught Glen Johnson - with Froch winning a MD and Bute a UD. Also, they have both stopped Brian Magee - Froch in 11 rounds (only 1 round in it on the cards at the time) and Bute in 10.

In my opinion Bute won more convincingly than Froch on both occasions.

In The Ring

I've researched Frochs worst performances and highlighted a few things:

v Ward - He was outjabbed despite a reach advantage. Ward neutralised Frochs power by moving backwards. Froch was to slow

v Kessler - He was not as busy as Kessler and was too easy to hit

v Taylor - Got caught wide open with an overhand right

v Dirrell - Froch was on the front foot whilst Dirrell counter-punched and clinched.

I can find no major faults with Bute as at the moment he has never been in any trouble. If i was being picky I would say he isn't the quickest

Conclusion

Whilst Froch has dropped rounds at the higher level, Bute has barely lost a round at a level just below the top. It's clear that Froch has great boxing ability - as shown when outpointing Abraham but he gets drawn into a brawl too easily - the hometown fans will not help this situation either. Froch has also struggled against southpaws. As Bute has never been stopped and Froch has no recent KO history, im going to rule out a Froch KO win. That being said, if Froch is to win it wil be on points - but as i've already said Bute has barely lost a round, however this is in Frochs hometown and we all know how bias home town judges can be. Bute also has tremendous power with a string of recent KO wins - but Froch has never been stopped.

I see this being a close fight and if a stoppage comes - the winner will be Bute.

Suggested Bet

Carl Froch and Lucian Bute to DRAW 25/1 @ Paddy Power and Ladbrokes

I'm a massive fan of Carls but I genuinely think this warrior is now there for the taking. I reckon Bute can stop him in the second half. I'll be having a small wager on this.

[Neri]

A few people are backing Froch to be stopped but I just can't see it. I'll be going for the Bute wide points win.

[smoggy7188]

Froch to stop him late. Rounds 10-12 around 25/1.

[Deno1986]

Usain Bolt to win the 100m in London is 8/13. I know it's a bit away but it's worth taking a gamble now because those odds won't be around in a few months.

[Deno1986]

Froch - Bute is a tough one to call from a betting point of view. Jamie's prediction of a draw is definitely worth a bit of loose change. I really can't pick a winner. If it was in Canada or the States I would be picking a Bute UD, but I really think that because the fight is in Notts it will play a factor if the fight goes to the cards.

My bet for the weekend is a double on 9.5+ in the Froch - Bute fight and Harrison to beat Adams. Works out in around EVEN money.

[ShadrachSimmo]

Carl Froch 28(20)-2(0) v Lucian Bute 30(24)-0

On Paper

Froch comes into this fight ranked 3 by Boxrec and is a former 2x WBC champion as well as the Super Six runner up. His height is recorded at 6'1 with a reach of 75. Froch has fought the last few years of his career at the top level, the current ranking of his last 5 opponents have been 1 (L UD), 10 (W MD), 7 (W UD), 5 (L UD) and 9 (W SD). He has (as far I can see) only been down once in his pro career (v Jermain Taylor) an is known for his granite chin. Despite his reputation as a brawler/ big-puncher - he only has 1 stoppage win since 2008. (7 fights (v Jermain Taylor)). He is also a former ABA amatuer champion, despite this he does seem to lose a number of rounds.Bute on the other hand, is currently ranked 2 by Boxrec and is the current IBF champion. He is half an inch taller than Froch but his reach is 3in shoter. He boxes out of a southpaw stance. His previous 5 opponents have been ranked 10 (W UD), 34 (W KO), 12 (W TKO), n/a (W KO) and 20 (W TKO). Again, as far as i can see he has never been down in his pro career. His last 7 out 8 fights have ended inside the distance. He is a former Bronze medalist at the World Championships and this has seen him barely lose a round as a pro.Common Opponents

Both men have faught Glen Johnson - with Froch winning a MD and Bute a UD. Also, they have both stopped Brian Magee - Froch in 11 rounds (only 1 round in it on the cards at the time) and Bute in 10.

In my opinion Bute won more convincingly than Froch on both occasions.

In The Ring

I've researched Frochs worst performances and highlighted a few things:

v Ward - He was outjabbed despite a reach advantage. Ward neutralised Frochs power by moving backwards. Froch was to slow

v Kessler - He was not as busy as Kessler and was too easy to hit

v Taylor - Got caught wide open with an overhand right

v Dirrell - Froch was on the front foot whilst Dirrell counter-punched and clinched.

I can find no major faults with Bute as at the moment he has never been in any trouble. If i was being picky I would say he isn't the quickest

Conclusion

Whilst Froch has dropped rounds at the higher level, Bute has barely lost a round at a level just below the top. It's clear that Froch has great boxing ability - as shown when outpointing Abraham but he gets drawn into a brawl too easily - the hometown fans will not help this situation either. Froch has also struggled against southpaws. As Bute has never been stopped and Froch has no recent KO history, im going to rule out a Froch KO win. That being said, if Froch is to win it wil be on points - but as i've already said Bute has barely lost a round, however this is in Frochs hometown and we all know how bias home town judges can be. Bute also has tremendous power with a string of recent KO wins - but Froch has never been stopped.

I see this being a close fight and if a stoppage comes - the winner will be Bute.

Suggested Bet

Carl Froch and Lucian Bute to DRAW 25/1 @ Paddy Power and Ladbrokes

Bute never been down? Did you see the first Andrade fight? He practically got ko'd.

[jamiedavies02]

Carl Froch 28(20)-2(0) v Lucian Bute 30(24)-0

On Paper

Froch comes into this fight ranked 3 by Boxrec and is a former 2x WBC champion as well as the Super Six runner up. His height is recorded at 6'1 with a reach of 75. Froch has fought the last few years of his career at the top level, the current ranking of his last 5 opponents have been 1 (L UD), 10 (W MD), 7 (W UD), 5 (L UD) and 9 (W SD). He has (as far I can see) only been down once in his pro career (v Jermain Taylor) an is known for his granite chin. Despite his reputation as a brawler/ big-puncher - he only has 1 stoppage win since 2008. (7 fights (v Jermain Taylor)). He is also a former ABA amatuer champion, despite this he does seem to lose a number of rounds.Bute on the other hand, is currently ranked 2 by Boxrec and is the current IBF champion. He is half an inch taller than Froch but his reach is 3in shoter. He boxes out of a southpaw stance. His previous 5 opponents have been ranked 10 (W UD), 34 (W KO), 12 (W TKO), n/a (W KO) and 20 (W TKO). Again, as far as i can see he has never been down in his pro career. His last 7 out 8 fights have ended inside the distance. He is a former Bronze medalist at the World Championships and this has seen him barely lose a round as a pro.Common Opponents

Both men have faught Glen Johnson - with Froch winning a MD and Bute a UD. Also, they have both stopped Brian Magee - Froch in 11 rounds (only 1 round in it on the cards at the time) and Bute in 10.

In my opinion Bute won more convincingly than Froch on both occasions.

In The Ring

I've researched Frochs worst performances and highlighted a few things:

v Ward - He was outjabbed despite a reach advantage. Ward neutralised Frochs power by moving backwards. Froch was to slow

v Kessler - He was not as busy as Kessler and was too easy to hit

v Taylor - Got caught wide open with an overhand right

v Dirrell - Froch was on the front foot whilst Dirrell counter-punched and clinched.

I can find no major faults with Bute as at the moment he has never been in any trouble. If i was being picky I would say he isn't the quickest

Conclusion

Whilst Froch has dropped rounds at the higher level, Bute has barely lost a round at a level just below the top. It's clear that Froch has great boxing ability - as shown when outpointing Abraham but he gets drawn into a brawl too easily - the hometown fans will not help this situation either. Froch has also struggled against southpaws. As Bute has never been stopped and Froch has no recent KO history, im going to rule out a Froch KO win. That being said, if Froch is to win it wil be on points - but as i've already said Bute has barely lost a round, however this is in Frochs hometown and we all know how bias home town judges can be. Bute also has tremendous power with a string of recent KO wins - but Froch has never been stopped.

I see this being a close fight and if a stoppage comes - the winner will be Bute.

Suggested Bet

Carl Froch and Lucian Bute to DRAW 25/1 @ Paddy Power and Ladbrokes

Bute never been down? Did you see the first Andrade fight? He practically got ko'd.

I seen this on beyond the ropes last night, still doesn't change my prediction though

[jimcook]

if ward couldnt ko froch id be shocked if bute could.abraham had big power and was thought by some to be a potential winner of the super six before it got underway. dirrell kessler and froch were also highly thought of too, but the super six brought most of them down a notch or two and left a convincing winner. ward is the top man, though he never really had to travel to get there ( my only criticism of the man) . bute hasnt been exposed to the real top level like the others have , so hes still to really show his mettle, and hes having to travel too. froch on points would be a safer bet in my opinion

[JC]

if ward couldnt ko froch id be shocked if bute could.abraham had big power and was thought by some to be a potential winner of the super six before it got underway. dirrell kessler and froch were also highly thought of too, but the super six brought most of them down a notch or two and left a convincing winner. ward is the top man, though he never really had to travel to get there ( my only criticism of the man) . bute hasnt been exposed to the real top level like the others have , so hes still to really show his mettle, and hes having to travel too. froch on points would be a safer bet in my opinion

Ward and Bute are different kinds of fighter though. Ward's stoppages when they come are usually the result of waring the opponent down. Bute's are more often an example of the shot you don't coming being the one that knocks you out.

The guy before Bute who I felt had the best chance of stopping him (other than maybe Abraham catching him late) was Talyor. Froch's chin behind the shoulder, low lead, leaning back defence is designed to let him see the shot coming. I think the best antidote to it is to have fast hands and punch in combination, which Bute does very well.

That said Bute can be hit and Froch hits hard. Right now I making this 60/40 in Bute's favour.

[JDC]

Haye to decision Vitali in 2012 @ 16/1, doubled it with win over Chisora by any method and got close to 30/1. No way he's fighting Vitali, unless he gets by Chisora. Vitali is getting old. If the fight either fight doesn't happen it revert to a single, if both don't it's cash back.

30 to 1, are you kidding me?

[SteveDow]

Had a nibble on Froch just to win at 15/8 which is value in my opinion. Bute may well beat him but he's away from home, has not fought at this level before and for me has more to prove. It is one thing stopping a guy like Brian Magee (who Froch knocked unconcious by the way) but another entirely doing it to a seasoned, experienced and teak tough warrior like Froch who has proven that he can take a massive shot. Whether or not Bute wins, he'll have to go through hell to do so. I'm surprised by how many are expecting Bute to stop Froch who has never been close to being stopped and indeed has only ever been down once.

I'm off to Nottingham today for the fight and can't wait. Good luck with all your bets lads!

[crusader]

if ward couldnt ko froch id be shocked if bute could.abraham had big power and was thought by some to be a potential winner of the super six before it got underway. dirrell kessler and froch were also highly thought of too, but the super six brought most of them down a notch or two and left a convincing winner. ward is the top man, though he never really had to travel to get there ( my only criticism of the man) . bute hasnt been exposed to the real top level like the others have , so hes still to really show his mettle, and hes having to travel too. froch on points would be a safer bet in my opinion

Ward is a below average puncher; he didn't drop or stop fragile opponents in Miranda and Green, despite repeatedly landing power shots.

I'd be very surprised if Bute won by stoppage though.

[Hagler2002]

Romaina EW at 33/1 in the Eurovision Song Contest tonight.

Catchy tune, they haven't invaded or upset anyone in the last 12 months, good draw and the singer is a stunner.

Wheelbarrows at the ready

[Hagler2002]

Some good winners on the Froch KO win @ 8/1, well done. I took the plunge just before the off and had a small punt on Froch via stoppage @ 5's. That was on Betfair so it will have been shorter with the high street bookies, they must have been some good money put down on the stoppage win to half the odds.

[lefthook82]

Frock KO 8/1. The one that got away. Went BIG on fight not going the distance so cant be too upset but from when the fight was announced always felt that Froch would win

[horndawg80]

I'm looking to have a punt on Saunders vs Pryce

Rounds 4-6 for Saunders? What are you boys thinking?

[The Insider]

Doesn't sound far off the mark for the Saunders fight. I'm not touching it though. BJS is 4/7 just for the stoppage and although I think its going to happen im just not confident enough to lump on. It's not like its a Fury or Price bet where I Beth huge and was very confident. The only bet I can see that represents a bit of value is Tim Bradley by stoppage at 12/1. I see Manny grinding out a close points win but I reckon Tim can be a danger late on. It's a long shot but at 12's its worth a score to keep it interesting.

[horndawg80]

Thanks

Rose vs Carslaw? Can he bang? Kc that is.....

Rose doesn't stop anyone (except JR)