Is anyone REALLY suprised that Froch beat Bute ??

[Quixall]

Is anyone really suprised that Froch beat Bute ?

I didn't read beforehand on the site regarding Carl's fight with Bute, but in all honesty it wasn't a complete shock that he beat Bute the way he did. I personally thought that Carl would win over the distance and thought he fought a great fight, got the tactics right, but at the end of the day, Bute just couldn't take his power. I am really pleased for Carl, one of my favourite fighters, i like the bloke, like his attitude towards the fight game, doesn't duck anyone, gives it his all in every fight and goes for the big challenges, but in reality i don't think this was his toughest opponent to date.

I always wondered why Bute didn't compete in the super six tournament, an ideal showcase to go up against the best in your division, make some money and prove your the best or one of the best at 168lbs. Look at who Froch has fought experience wise, Dirrel, Taylor, Abraham, Kessler, Johnson, Ward, all tough fights and he beat Dirrel, Taylor, Abraham and Johnson. Now look at Bute's record. He has fought Miranda, Andrade and Johnson, those are the names that stand out. We all know that Johnson was a substitute fighter and was past his best, so that grinds it down to Andrade and Miranda.

This is honestly why i thought that Carl would win, abeit not in the fashion he did though. Carl has been in with way better fighters than Bute, hasn't been protected and in the super-six tournament was fighting quality guys one after the other. It could have been a bad night for Bute, but it looked to me as if Carl was on a different level, he was premiership quality to Bute's championship. I think it answered a few questions as to why Bute didn't enter the tournament. His management have obviously hand picked opponents for him and worked on the basis of gaining more money through keeping hold of a world title belt and an unbeaten record. If he fights Carl in a re-match, he loses, as for carl it's onwards and upwards.

[smoggy7188]

Im not surprised that he beat Bute but I am surprised how easily he did it. Someone mentioned Jeff Lacy the other day on another thread and I think that summed up Bute pretty well. The Super Six has meant that Bute has only been fighting b level fighters at best which has meant he has never fought a real world class opponent until now which has lead to him being not very battle hardened at all. I never like to go by body language in the final stages before a fight but Bute looked like he was bricking it when he turned up at the arena.

[IRLangmaid25]

In all honesty no. Carl Froch has been in Championship bouts since 2004 when he was fighting for the Commonwealth and British titles so he had more experience of going 12 rounds than Bute in title bouts so knows how to deal with the pressure of fighting in Championship than Bute does.

[lefthook82]

Not 1% surprised that he won or how we won

I backed Kessler very big last week and he came through but not after stopping my heart in the 1st round. This stopped me from backing Froch outright (went for either inside distance) but I told everybody who would listen at work that Froch would waste this guy

[Final round]

Yes loads of people, check out the predictions thread, he was the bookies underdog and much of the press were ringing the death nell for Froch.

[antony]

I remember when lastnights fight was first announced there was talk of it being a two fight contract with the first fight taking place here in the uk and a possible rematch staged in bute's home Canada.. Dose anyone know if there was anything in the fight contract stating this and if so would bute & his team want any part of it...

[Quixall]

Yes loads of people, check out the predictions thread, he was the bookies underdog and much of the press were ringing the death nell for Froch.

Well i'm quite suprised to be honest..............

All people had to do is look at Bute, watch a few of his fights, examine his record and then i don't think people would have been suprised at all. Amazing how people fall for a lot of hype.

[NazNaci1]

I thought Bute would win quite comfortably on points, so this was an eye opening shock. A pleasing one, though. Throwback fighters get dismissed when they suffer a loss or 2 so it makes others reluctant to pursue the same path ie fighting the best available, which is what all us fans want.

So I am delighted that the 'throwback' guy won and won dominantly.

[smoggy7188]

There was a two fight/rematch clause if it was tight however I dont think you can challenge for an IBF belt if you got knocked out in your last fight by the champion.

[jameswilson]

My favourite bit was when Bute caught Froch with his trademark left to the body that has stopped a few of his opponents and Froch just smiled at him.

[Adamj1987]

No but i thought it was very 50/50 and was surprised how much froch dominated

[JediKnight]

If you walked down an alley and got bashed up like that would you go down that alley again?

Froch v Ward II makes more sense

[Adamj1987]

No-one will want to see it again.


Kessler vs froch 2 please

[Bricks]

Is anyone really suprised that Froch beat Bute ?

I didn't read beforehand on the site regarding Carl's fight with Bute, but in all honesty it wasn't a complete shock that he beat Bute the way he did. I personally thought that Carl would win over the distance and thought he fought a great fight, got the tactics right, but at the end of the day, Bute just couldn't take his power. I am really pleased for Carl, one of my favourite fighters, i like the bloke, like his attitude towards the fight game, doesn't duck anyone, gives it his all in every fight and goes for the big challenges, but in reality i don't think this was his toughest opponent to date.

I always wondered why Bute didn't compete in the super six tournament, an ideal showcase to go up against the best in your division, make some money and prove your the best or one of the best at 168lbs. Look at who Froch has fought experience wise, Dirrel, Taylor, Abraham, Kessler, Johnson, Ward, all tough fights and he beat Dirrel, Taylor, Abraham and Johnson. Now look at Bute's record. He has fought Miranda, Andrade and Johnson, those are the names that stand out. We all know that Johnson was a substitute fighter and was past his best, so that grinds it down to Andrade and Miranda.

This is honestly why i thought that Carl would win, abeit not in the fashion he did though. Carl has been in with way better fighters than Bute, hasn't been protected and in the super-six tournament was fighting quality guys one after the other. It could have been a bad night for Bute, but it looked to me as if Carl was on a different level, he was premiership quality to Bute's championship. I think it answered a few questions as to why Bute didn't enter the tournament. His management have obviously hand picked opponents for him and worked on the basis of gaining more money through keeping hold of a world title belt and an unbeaten record. If he fights Carl in a re-match, he loses, as for carl it's onwards and upwards.

Agree totally quixall. Anyone doing a search here will see ive always maintained even after the ward fight that Froch is the best SM in the world. I could see he had a bad off night with Ward who i dont feel is that much better than Dirrel. Ive said Froch has thudding power that discourages , lightning reflexes and a great counter punching style when he uses it....he showed all that last night. He has dealt with his slow feet and slow hands by starting to rush in when he punches which negates the distance and thus slowness.

[smoggy7188]

Froch/Kessler for sure and if he wins that i think there is a big chance he fights Pascal if he gets past cloud.

[keithmoonhangover]

No-one will want to see it again.


Kessler vs froch 2 please

If Bute thinks he can win, then him and 15,000 Canadians would want to see it.

Eddie Hearn said after the fight that the rematch clause is active. Bute can have his rematch is he wants. He may take it, remember Patterson activated the rematch clause and got a rematch with Liston.

[Camcas]

I honestly thought it would be pretty comfortable for Bute, so yes i am really surprised at how easy it was for Froch

[palooka]

Yes loads of people, check out the predictions thread, he was the bookies underdog and much of the press were ringing the death nell for Froch.

Froch did fantastic against a man considered top drawer; In truth; Bute did not belong in the same ring as Froch who stood in range and rattled Bute every time he connected. A very good win for Carl but; on this showing; Bute would have got his arse handed to him by anyone in the top 5 at super middle. It took someone with Frochs guts and skill to show him the door. Bute was exposed at the very top level, Carl had a fantastic night and I think will beat Kessler in a rematch but imagine Ward will always be too much for him. What a fighter Froch is though!

[antony]

There was a two fight/rematch clause if it was tight however I dont think you can challenge for an IBF belt if you got knocked out in your last fight by the champion.

I was thinking more from bute's point of view!! Where does he go from here?? He's 33 this year and if surely a rematch infront of his home fans must be a better payday than fightsomet couple of bums and trying to rebuild his reputation...?? As from froch's side of things If not Kessler he may as well just retire as anything else would be a step back....p.s if lastnights froch's had turned up he would have beaten Kessler handily first time out (his jab worked a treat lastnight and bute's was non-existent...

[Adamj1987]

No-one will want to see it again.


Kessler vs froch 2 please

If Bute thinks he can win, then him and 15,000 Canadians would want to see it.

Eddie Hearn said after the fight that the rematch clause is active. Bute can have his rematch is he wants. He may take it, remember Patterson activated the rematch clause and got a rematch with Liston.

just read on BS, an interim fight then the rematch

[Kilburn]

Surprised that Froch won in such spectacular fashion. Absolutely chuffed to bits watching that this afternoon, and glad I was too knackered last night to stay up listening to radio commentary (away for the weekend).

I thought a Froch win would mean a close, scrappy affair with not many clean punches landed by either. I did think his chin would stand the Bute test though.

What a performance. Have to give a nod to Bute the way he accepted his first loss as well.

[Pat Butcher]

Yes and I'm a Froch fan. I thought he would lose but hoped he could win. I was amazed how he bullied Bute so easily and was well happy to see it

[The Insider]

Yup im amazed that Carl totally smashed him. I bet against him( only smal mind) but I've never been happier to be wrong. I was too bust looking at Carls faults instead of looking in depth at Butes real performances. Well done frochy, a true fighter, a true warrior and gent to top it off. A boxer through and through.

[Syntax Error]

I surprised TBH.

As much as a I like Froch, I thought Bute might just be slightly too good for him, but how wrong I was.

I'm especially shocked at how easily Froch dismantled Bute.

It seems as if the high calibre of opponent, plus the travelling really helped Froch.

Bute didn't do the Super Six as we know (now we might know why) & he has been in a relative comfort zone compared to Froch in recent times.

Carl was brilliant last night & deserves all the praise he is getting.

[Final round]

If you walked down an alley and got bashed up like that would you go down that alley again?

Haha nicely put but Bute's a brave man and I think he will fancy another go.