Warren Signs Mbaye

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 11 Sep 2005, 09:02

This gets funnier by the miniute. He'll obviously try to force the mandatory before any unification. And at some stage make Mbaye versus Hatton. I haven't seen Mbaye much how do people think Hatton-Mbaye would pan out? Could Mbaye be all wrong for Hatton? I certainly won't shed any tears about Hatton-Mausa not coming off

Heres the article:

allegedly has snapped up WBA number one light-welterweight contender Souleymane M’baye - and is confident of securing him a shot against current champion Carlos Maussa.

M’baye has fought for the WBA title before, losing to Vivian Harris on points, his only setback in 33 starts.

But he is still number one in the organisations rankings – and long overdue his mandatory crack at the title.

“I believe in signing up the best talent in boxing, irrespective of where they come from,” said Warren.

“When I was given the chance of signing M’baye I leapt at the chance.

“As his promoter I’m keen for him to get the WBA title shot as soon as possible. He is number one to Maussa and should get his chance before anyone else.”

http://www.allegedly.tv/fw4/allnews.p ... m=&ucat=36&

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 11 Sep 2005, 09:04

Hell hath no fury like a promoter scorned eh?

states · Post by **states** » 11 Sep 2005, 09:07

Forget it, the WBA can't wait for the opportunity to make Hatton a super champion and then start hucking the regular title around. Tossers.

Still, fair play to Frank, he's a busy boy right now.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 11 Sep 2005, 09:30

states wrote:Forget it, the WBA can't wait for the opportunity to make Hatton a super champion and then start hucking the regular title around. Tossers.

Still, fair play to Frank, he's a busy boy right now.

Does a Super Champ have to fight mandatories or the regular WBA champ for that matter? These belts are a joke

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 11 Sep 2005, 09:42

The WBA super champ have to fight mandatories, who is the WBA regular champ. How often he has to do it depends on how many belts he have, ie Taylor doesnt have to have a mandatory WBA defense as often as Mormeck does because he also have the WBO and IBF belts.

Only WBA belt: 9 months
2 belts: 18 months
3 belts: 21 months
4 belts: 24 months

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 11 Sep 2005, 10:07

I don't even pretend to understand all the politics but from what i have seen of Mbaye he is a good fighter, compact and skilled and it's a shame he hasn't had more chances at world level.

split_decision · Post by **split_decision** » 11 Sep 2005, 10:28

I feel sorry for Souleymane M’baye, he's simply a pawn in Warren & Hatton's argument.

Still this signing does suggest that Frank may be running scared and not quite as confident of coming out on top in court.

My T Sharp · Post by **My T Sharp** » 11 Sep 2005, 10:32

If he is the mandatory, then he's more likely of a shot than Hatton.

But, there can't be any money in this for Warren though, ITV and US TV are not going to be interested in a Colombian Vs a Frenchman.

It's more likely gonna be M'baye Vs Eamonn Magee for the vacant WBU.

dwo 27 · Post by **dwo 27** » 11 Sep 2005, 10:58

I'd heard that M'baye was going to be Hatton's next opponent if Hatton had signed with Warren.

Now it looks as though Warren's still determined to hamper Hatton's career the best he can.
I can't see M'baye v Maussa getting 22,000 at the M.E.N, then again I'm sure it would be an undercard fight with Amir Kahn headlining like Cazaghe was the undercard last night.
I can remember Warren criticising the BBC for having Audley Harrison as the bill topper but now Warren's doing exactly the same with Kahn.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 11 Sep 2005, 11:27

Damn, poor Frank - that's like looking forward to a steak dinner, and ending up with a sausage roll instead.

cslater · Post by **cslater** » 11 Sep 2005, 11:49

hatton presser live on sky sports news tomorrow at 11am

states · Post by **states** » 11 Sep 2005, 12:04

cslater wrote:hatton presser live on sky sports news tomorrow at 11am

Time to start saving the pennies for the 15 quid PPV then...

Frank has lost Ricky, no matter what his claims are.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 11 Sep 2005, 14:37

Ah well a top fighter for ITV I guess if he can get him the WBA shot.

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 11 Sep 2005, 15:19

Smacks of desperation - If indeed this has been done to get at Hatton.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 11 Sep 2005, 15:24

Warren can still sell the TV rights for M'Baye to french TV so I doubt he will lose money on him.

G-man · Post by **G-man** » 11 Sep 2005, 16:24

cslater wrote:hatton presser live on sky sports news tomorrow at 11am

Gonna be some fireworks here.

The Hatton camp are ready to let some truths of their own be known.

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 11 Sep 2005, 23:09

Sad the lengths Warren has gone to to hinder Hatton's career after years and years of Hatton's commitment to him. The M.E.N. trick and now this

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 12 Sep 2005, 04:31

One king size portion of sour grapes for Mr Warren.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 12 Sep 2005, 09:05

What a wanker, this is so pathetic its unbelievable.

someone mentioned the WBA superchampion thing- it would be hilarious if the WBA turned around and said 'Sure Frank, we can sanction Mbaye... against highest available challenger Junior Witter for the WBA superchampionship!'

Imagine Warren backpedalling out of that one...

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 12 Sep 2005, 10:26

The WBA mandatory defense plays a role here.
The last WBA 140 mandatory defense was Harris vs Urkal 2 (maybe even Urkal 1) so the mandatory defense had to take place in july. It also says that if a challenger wins the belt and he is not the mandatory challenger, he has to defend it within 120 days, that will be in october in this case.

Should Hatton vs Maussa take place the winner has to defend the WBA within 9 months against the WBA regular champ since Maussa wasnt the mandatory challenger when he won the belt. But the regular champ has to have defended the regular belt at least once before there can be a mandatory fight between the super and regular champ.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 12 Sep 2005, 10:32

If Hatton/M'Baye happens, wonder what Warren's reaction to Mickey Vann as referee would be?

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 12 Sep 2005, 10:56

M'baye is a good exciting box-fighter and world class from what i've seen of him and very durable.

I was always hoping Hatton and M'baye would clash for the EBU title a few years back, but Hatton was taken the WBU route and nothing ever came if it.

It would still make a great fight.

DK2112 · Post by **DK2112** » 12 Sep 2005, 17:28

To be honest with you, I can see Maussa just vacating the WBA title anyway so he can get more money against Hatton. Maussa isn't stupid, he knows he's at the wrong level at the moment and will know how reign as WBA champion won't last one defence anyway so he will cash in on his success and who can blame him? Which would sell more, Maussa vs Mbaye or Maussa vs Hatton? Exactly.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 12 Sep 2005, 17:29

DK2112 wrote:To be honest with you, I can see Maussa just vacating the WBA title anyway so he can get more money against Hatton. Maussa isn't stupid, he knows he's at the wrong level at the moment and will know how reign as WBA champion won't last one defence anyway so he will cash in on his success and who can blame him? Which would sell more, Maussa vs Mbaye or Maussa vs Hatton? Exactly.

Why would he vacate the title? He will not be stripped. If Hatton beats Maussa then he will be the WBA super champion as he will be a unified champion and they can then get Mbaye and A N Other to fight for the WBA title normal. Then they get 2 sanctioning fees.

states · Post by **states** » 12 Sep 2005, 17:36

Plus, would Hatton fight Maussa if the WBA title wasn't on the line? That belt is the only reason Maussa is getting any money.