The poor management of British fighters

[twenty six]

So its all the Promotor's and Manager's fault is it ?
Ever thought about throwing the fighters in there ?
How many fights per annum do you think are proposed to fighters and turned down ?
Let's get a balance here.
EVERYONE in this sport has some apportionment of blame - Managers Fighters Trainers Promotors Lawyers ! Sponsors and Media to name a few.
Eddie Hearn has got the most number of TV dates available at the premium rate.
Easy to keep Fighters happy when you're in this privelaged position.

[Tommy Gunn13]

I earn't the equivilant of 200 pounds for painting a room today. Picked up, 3 pints after work and then dropped off. Not punched in the head once. Although I might be getting a phone call tomorrow. Anyway all I'm trying to say is 100 quid a round sounds more than fair, I'm sure a lithuanian would do it for 30 though. painting and punched in the head.

I just thought a £100 a round sounded excessive,i dont know what sparring partners get paid,perhaps some of the pros could tell us... id have thought for someone sparring the Walshes who are only up&coming boxers would prob get £50-£100 for 4-8 rounds??
PS i wont have you round as a painter either £40 a room i paid&he did all the prep work

[Craig14]

it'll be pealing off in a month. 40 quid? You get what you pay for.

[Tommy Gunn13]

it'll be pealing off in a month. 40 quid? You get what you pay for.

Trust me,he do a top job...hes out of work&glad of the £££
hes always done my painting as i hate it..

[Tommy Gunn13]

So its all the Promotor's and Manager's fault is it ?
Ever thought about throwing the fighters in there ?
How many fights per annum do you think are proposed to fighters and turned down ?
Let's get a balance here.
EVERYONE in this sport has some apportionment of blame - Managers Fighters Trainers Promotors Lawyers ! Sponsors and Media to name a few.
Eddie Hearn has got the most number of TV dates available at the premium rate.
Easy to keep Fighters happy when you're in this privelaged position.

Rocky Feilding was moaning he isnt getting the fights,but by what Steve Wood says, he turned down a fight against Luke Blackledge..

[Craig14]

aciu uz darbo natura sir.

[leforge]

So its all the Promotor's and Manager's fault is it ?
Ever thought about throwing the fighters in there ?
How many fights per annum do you think are proposed to fighters and turned down ?
Let's get a balance here.
EVERYONE in this sport has some apportionment of blame - Managers Fighters Trainers Promotors Lawyers ! Sponsors and Media to name a few.
Eddie Hearn has got the most number of TV dates available at the premium rate.
Easy to keep Fighters happy when you're in this privelaged position.

Rocky Feilding was moaning he isnt getting the fights,but by what Steve Wood says, he turned down a fight against Luke Blackledge..

I wonder if he knew he be leaving and did not want a potential loss to put others off.

[Tommy Gunn13]

aciu uz darbo natura sir.

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[Tommy Gunn13]

So its all the Promotor's and Manager's fault is it ?
Ever thought about throwing the fighters in there ?
How many fights per annum do you think are proposed to fighters and turned down ?
Let's get a balance here.
EVERYONE in this sport has some apportionment of blame - Managers Fighters Trainers Promotors Lawyers ! Sponsors and Media to name a few.
Eddie Hearn has got the most number of TV dates available at the premium rate.
Easy to keep Fighters happy when you're in this privelaged position.

Rocky Feilding was moaning he isnt getting the fights,but by what Steve Wood says, he turned down a fight against Luke Blackledge..

I wonder if he knew he be leaving and did not want a potential loss to put others off.

Quite possibley..i did ask him via twitter,that he said he wanted fights&is there any truth in him or his team turned Blackledge down..but it fell on deaf ears!!
By the way i think he is very overated!!

[leforge]

Rocky Feilding was moaning he isnt getting the fights,but by what Steve Wood says, he turned down a fight against Luke Blackledge..

I wonder if he knew he be leaving and did not want a potential loss to put others off.

Quite possibley..i did ask him via twitter,that he said he wanted fights&is there any truth in him or his team turned Blackledge down..but it fell on deaf ears!!
By the way i think he is very overated!!

He did well in prizefighter then he seemed to go back to fighting journeyman. THink he needs a step up in levels Reid or Blackledge next would be a test

[Craig14]

aciu uz darbo natura sir.

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I was trying to be funny, obviously your lithuanian is not up to much.

[smoggy7188]

Reid is fighting Mendy for vacant english super middleweight in early july apparently. If Fieldings contract expired in April why did he only leave last week? Can someone clear that up.

[Tommy Gunn13]

aciu uz darbo natura sir.

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I was trying to be funny, obviously your lithuanian is not up to much.

No she didnt teach me much.. Il look it up later on translater :)

[Tommy Gunn13]

Yes he did well in prizefighter,il give him that... Get him in with Reid or someone who can at least give him a test..Travis Dickenson would murder him

[leforge]

Reid is fighting Mendy for vacant english super middleweight in early july apparently. If Fieldings contract expired in April why did he only leave last week? Can someone clear that up.

What show is Reid fight on?

[smoggy7188]

Dont know mate, he has also got a fight for the WBU belt in Malta in August I think it was.

[Greavesy]

I earn't the equivilant of 200 pounds for painting a room today. Picked up, 3 pints after work and then dropped off. Not punched in the head once. Although I might be getting a phone call tomorrow. Anyway all I'm trying to say is 100 quid a round sounds more than fair, I'm sure a lithuanian would do it for 30 though. painting and punched in the head.

I just thought a £100 a round sounded excessive,i dont know what sparring partners get paid,perhaps some of the pros could tell us... id have thought for someone sparring the Walshes who are only up&coming boxers would prob get £50-£100 for 4-8 rounds??
PS i wont have you round as a painter either £40 a room i paid&he did all the prep work

Think you missunderstood my original post

Walsh brothers paid my mate £100 per day to spar them

a boxer who posts on here paid another one of my mates £100 per round

you was surprised to think walsh brothers would pay £100 per round

would be even more surprised then if you knew who it was as it even surprised me

on that sort of money i may as well not box anymore

could earn a lot more as a pro sparring partner

Its the power of capital clover i guess


with the original question

its hard to put on enough small shows to keep everyone happy

people arent earning , it loses money in the main to put on a show

people tell new promotors not to bother and to do unlicensed

that way they make more money

now to me that is sad and shouldnt be the case

how can unlicensed promotors earn better than pros

[Tommy Gunn13]

I earn't the equivilant of 200 pounds for painting a room today. Picked up, 3 pints after work and then dropped off. Not punched in the head once. Although I might be getting a phone call tomorrow. Anyway all I'm trying to say is 100 quid a round sounds more than fair, I'm sure a lithuanian would do it for 30 though. painting and punched in the head.

I just thought a £100 a round sounded excessive,i dont know what sparring partners get paid,perhaps some of the pros could tell us... id have thought for someone sparring the Walshes who are only up&coming boxers would prob get £50-£100 for 4-8 rounds??
PS i wont have you round as a painter either £40 a room i paid&he did all the prep work

Think you missunderstood my original post

Walsh brothers paid my mate £100 per day to spar them

a boxer who posts on here paid another one of my mates £100 per round

you was surprised to think walsh brothers would pay £100 per round

would be even more surprised then if you knew who it was as it even surprised me

on that sort of money i may as well not box anymore

could earn a lot more as a pro sparring partner

Its the power of capital clover i guess


with the original question

its hard to put on enough small shows to keep everyone happy

people arent earning , it loses money in the main to put on a show

people tell new promotors not to bother and to do unlicensed

that way they make more money

now to me that is sad and shouldnt be the case

how can unlicensed promotors earn better than pros

Go on then enlighten me....or are you another poster full of shite....

[hitman_hatton1]

kevin mitchell should be fighting ricky burns next.

just no excuse for not getting that together.

it would sell tickets at glasgow barrowlands or a london venue.

fish eyes promotes both.

just infuriating.

[Tommy Gunn13]

kevin mitchell should be fighting ricky burns next.

just no excuse for not getting that together.

it would sell tickets at glasgow barrowlands or a london venue.

fish eyes promotes both.

just infuriating.

It should be straight forward to make,but obviously not

[jessi]

kevin mitchell should be fighting ricky burns next.

just no excuse for not getting that together.

it would sell tickets at glasgow barrowlands or a london venue.

fish eyes promotes both.

just infuriating.

It should be straight forward to make,but obviously not

Everyone's entitled to get married and have a honeymoon arnt they ?

[Jeff Thomas]

More boxers and less dates means it is going to get even harder . The boxers and trainers are going to have to let the good fighters fight each other and for fair money to as there is less of that about as well .

If every one is not reasonable over the next 12-24 months then a lot will not be fighting , not always the managers or promoters fault .

I agree with this... They should fight each other... there should be more control taking by promoters in terms of the yearly schedule of fighters...

Are Eddie Hearn and matchroom really the only people with any innovation or creativity involved in the sport? I doubt it very much? I've got tons of brilliant idea's and having had francis warren nick one the other day with no thanks or mention i'm not about to share them on here but promoters need to realise that BOB MONKHOUSE 3-0 (0 ko's) Vs TBA 3-89-3 (0KO's) isn't entertainment... its boring as shit....

Ideas have been shared over and over again on here. Its time to start taking notice IMO. This forum and others like it are a great window to what people want to see and it makes me laugh that all Spencer Fearon has had to do is make competitive matches to suddenly get all this kudos and attention. Thats what promoters should be doing anyway.

Record building needs to become a thing of the past, ultimately its pointless.

[Tommy Gunn13]

More boxers and less dates means it is going to get even harder . The boxers and trainers are going to have to let the good fighters fight each other and for fair money to as there is less of that about as well .

If every one is not reasonable over the next 12-24 months then a lot will not be fighting , not always the managers or promoters fault .

I agree with this... They should fight each other... there should be more control taking by promoters in terms of the yearly schedule of fighters...

Are Eddie Hearn and matchroom really the only people with any innovation or creativity involved in the sport? I doubt it very much? I've got tons of brilliant idea's and having had francis warren nick one the other day with no thanks or mention i'm not about to share them on here but promoters need to realise that BOB MONKHOUSE 3-0 (0 ko's) Vs TBA 3-89-3 (0KO's) isn't entertainment... its boring as shit....

Ideas have been shared over and over again on here. Its time to start taking notice IMO. This forum and others like it are a great window to what people want to see and it makes me laugh that all Spencer Fearon has had to do is make competitive matches to suddenly get all this kudos and attention. Thats what promoters should be doing anyway.

Record building needs to become a thing of the past, ultimately its pointless.

What idea has been nicked of yours Jeff?? I dont agree that Fearons matches are even,i think on paper his shows are shite&maybe top of the bill is 70/30...he talks a good show&has many nut huggers,but in all honesty his show are more onesided than most promoters....but he gets the plaudits!!!

[safeerah]

Cox has been having problems with his hands and thats why he is out.
Both the Dickinson brothers have had injury problems- also Travis had fight against Ajisafe which fell through for English title.
One of the Walsh brothers ( I think the youngest) broke his hand or arm
Martin Murray had a world title shot but criminal past scuppered that which aint promoters fault.
Foster Jnr is fighting Buckland next.
Kevin Mitchell has had criminal problems which stopped him from getting shot at rios.
Groves had 3injuries (1 depending on who u believe)

Agree with Fielding, Vassell, Munroe (no idea why he left Maloney), Hall, Towers (although i think they are taking it easy cos of his time inside) Walsh brothers (not getting fights isnt their fault).

I think Lindsay wanted a rest.

Totally agree with your comments about Joe Murray, his career is just random to be honest.

Good and interesting post though.

You are right Smoggy, but with Vassell Bob Shannon told me that he had Family problems, so was not in the right frame of mind to fight.

[magnus]

promoters need to realise that BOB MONKHOUSE 3-0 (0 ko's) Vs TBA 3-89-3 (0KO's) isn't entertainment... its boring as shit....

Bang on the money Jeff.