Heavyweights (of the 70's)

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It's amazing how BoxRec grows grows radipdly day by day. But, as an advise, don't ignore to check completed records. I've discovered several unregistrated bout for very well known boxers with "completed" records, such as Duane Bobick, Roy "Tiger" Williams, etc...I found the fights in The Ring reports, with the rest of the card entered. This message is not for to critisize anybody (who's doing a great, important job). But my advise is to check any record, even if the status is "complete". I have certainly ignored some bouts myself, while entering bouts from record books. But, aren't we all here to cover up for each other.
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Hi Palais

How frustrating for me! I have spent hours highlighting my mags of results for heavyweights!

You have duplicated the two results for Mani Vaka - they had dates unknown....I think I may have entered these.

I think I have a few more for Ernie Lassiter (should have been entered) - I shall check

You've entered the "Leroy Williams bout under Leroy Williams, not ROY Williams ( - is this correct?)

Vic Brown seemed to be having a rest around this period.

Did you say you found a bout for Duane Bobick? Which one?

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Oh Phil! Please don't misunderstand me now. I trust your excellent contribution to the heavyweight section. My message was supposed to be for ev. "newcomers" who may try the same subject. (Phsycologically, I may have critized myself for doing mistakes)
Like the two bouts of Mani Vaka, wich I checked but yet didn't see the undated entries. (The Ring, Sep. 74 page 36).
Roy Williams is nicknamed "Leroy", that's why Vic Brown was entered.
The bout is reported in The Ring, Sep. 74, page 42.
Then, who is the other Leroy Williams, with only one fight?
Duane Bobick-Lou Bailey, The Ring, July 74, page 54 (and RRB, 1978).
Ernie Lassiter is interesting to follow.
I didn't mean to frustrate anybody, Phil! I just don't always check who editor did what. This was only ment for information.
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Post by phil »

No, you misunderstand!

I'm not frustrated at you Palle! I'm annoyed with myself for missing these bouts. I have literally gone through all my mags from 1963 to 1984 and highlighted all "relevant" bouts (relevant as in you and I share the same interest as in 70s Heavyweights).

Very difficult NOT to miss the odd one, but also MY records should have been input into BOXREC and I'm angry that I have missed these few.

I still have SO MUCH to enter but please understand, I am NOT angry at you at all.

I'm trying to ascertain bouts for AAU and GG tournaments from 1960 to 1976 so if you can help in anyway, please reply

Best wishes Palle

Phil

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GOOD news, Phil! I was worried.
Same for me, each time I pick up an old magazine, I find a new bout (or picture) I ignored before.
My ambition is to cover heavyweight records of all time. It makes me glad whenever I see a new bout entered by another team editor.
I go through The Ring and other mags and books in order to add anything that's missing, and also to try to edit uncertain facts.
To reach heavyweight results I'm staring all over again with the light heavyweights.
So far I estimate my all in all result to 30-40% of what my sources may show.
The amateur scene is of course interesting, but it would too much for me now at this run. It may be a matter in the future? I did enter Ingemar Johansson's am.record, though.
But, from now on, I'll keep you informed with AAU notes that I'll come across almost every day.
By the way, is Manni Vaka's two ko wins over Terry Kreuger confirmed, or is it a double entry?

Allright, I'll call you anytime.
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Bobick's record should be complete now. As far as I know he had a final record of 49-4. The Lou Bailey fight was listed on the "heavyweights of the 60's and 70's website", so I guess someone just overlooked it while entering Bobick's record. By the way, does anyone know what happened to his brother Rodney? He died rather young.
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Hi Wout. I think Rodney died in a moto- or carcrash. I guess I read it in some magazine, don't know wich one. Brother Duane morned it deeply, it may have affected his career?
I'd suggested a while ago, it could be useful with a line for death facts. More direct upfront of the bio field. Some died in the ring, others in war, accidents, etc...
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About Duane Bobick's record..... a closer look revealed that there's an April 22 1973 and an April 22 1974 fight with Bailey in it. Looks like a double entry to me!
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Mike Hayes, The Ring, reports; Duane Bobick - Lou Baliey W UD 10, Norlfolk, Va. "This was Bobick's second straight 10-round victory after 19 knockouts". It's confirmed in RRB, 1978 edition. In 1973, april 21, Bobick knocked out William Anderson in Frankfort, Ky. (venue is yet to confirm).
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Post by phil »

HAS to be a double entry - bit of a coincidence otherwise!

Must be 1974.

Rodney Bobick died about a week after his last bout....

There was a family of around 11 I think.

Phil
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