Rating the Heavyweights

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 17 Sep 2005, 10:31

fighters say that to show respect.. big george knows hes better

Ambling Alp · Post by **Ambling Alp** » 17 Sep 2005, 15:21

It is an interesting way to rate them, even it still based on opinion. Foreman is the obvious mistake. Foreman was a wrecking machine and very few guys would have made it past 4 rounds with him. I also think the stamina criticism against Foreman is overplayed. If you watch his fight with Peralta when he was on his way up he showed no stamina problems. He is certainly one of top 5 heavyweights of all time.
Now if your counting his career after the comeback, then it's a different story.
Charles is too high. He and Walcott are as about even as you can get, so they should be ranked closer. Remember Charles lost to Layne and Valdez before he ever fought Marciano, and lost several fights after he fought Marciano.

Still overall, it's a good list and it's good that some thought was put into this.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 17 Sep 2005, 16:23

ambling app ,charles lost the fights after marciano cuase he spent everything he had left against marciano and marciano ruined him. he was never the same after that first marciano fight.

in the first marciano fight him, both put on one of the best displays of stamina, skill, and toughness in heavyweight history. charles trained hard, came in shape, looked very fast in early rounds and fought one of his best bouts at heavyweight but came up short. charles was never the same again, and he came in heavier the 2nd bout against marciano and looked slower and marciano easily knocked him out besides the freakish cut.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 17 Sep 2005, 16:23

ambling app ,charles lost the fights after marciano cuase he spent everything he had left against marciano and marciano ruined him. he was never the same after that first marciano fight.
and charles fought a bad fight against nino and harold johnson, in charles next two fights he knocked out coley wallace and bob satterfield

in the first marciano fight him, both put on one of the best displays of stamina, skill, and toughness in heavyweight history. charles trained hard, came in shape, looked very fast in early rounds and fought one of his best bouts at heavyweight but came up short. charles was never the same again, and he came in heavier the 2nd bout against marciano and looked slower and marciano easily knocked him out besides the freakish cut.

but i rate walcott and charles at 12th and 13th all time heavyweight list, respectively

The Great John L · Post by **The Great John L** » 17 Sep 2005, 16:47

Ambling Alp wrote:It is an interesting way to rate them, even it still based on opinion. Foreman is the obvious mistake. Foreman was a wrecking machine and very few guys would have made it past 4 rounds with him. I also think the stamina criticism against Foreman is overplayed. If you watch his fight with Peralta when he was on his way up he showed no stamina problems. He is certainly one of top 5 heavyweights of all time.
Now if your counting his career after the comeback, then it's a different story.
Charles is too high. He and Walcott are as about even as you can get, so they should be ranked closer. Remember Charles lost to Layne and Valdez before he ever fought Marciano, and lost several fights after he fought Marciano.

Still overall, it's a good list and it's good that some thought was put into this.

Interesting comments, but why don't you try rating them the way I did rather than just stating your opinion of two of the fighters listed. I think if you take the time to match them all against each other, you'll find out that the end result is not waht you expected. And when you're done if they don't look quite the way you expected, don't go back and make any changes. My list here is quite a bit different than when I had rated them by just writing a list. This process actually makes you think about each macthup, which all by itself makes you change the way you think about a fighter.

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 17 Sep 2005, 17:48

saying that big george is definatly top 5 is a little much, he is deff. top 5 but i think that.... ali rocky louis johnson and dempsey have the top 5 well then again its just my opinion im sure some people agree with you.