Who do you guys think would win out of these two tough Heavyweight contenders?
Both two tough, strong Heavyweights who mixed with the best of their respective generations. Chuvalo had the better chin and worked the body much better, but Lyle had the better jab and was the bigger puncher.
I am going to go with Chuvalo on this one. His chin makes it almost a certainty he'll go the route, unless he busts up. But Lyle wasn't a mobile boxer so the fight would quickly become an up close slugfest, and Chuvalo would get the best of it and win by atko in the 8th 9th or 10th round
hmm i dunno lyle could hit pretty hard. chuvalo might hae a nice chin but i could see lyle slowly taking him apart and eventually either late round KO or UD
What a terrible idea for a fight. Shame on me for contributing a response. Chuvalo (or 'Chuvola' in kojoe-tongue) doesnt have the power to rough up Lyle or the slinky skills to outpoint him. Lyle beat Oscar Bonavena, Jimmy Ellis, Earnie Shavers and the boys, besides banging out Buster Mathis in 2 rds (who beat 'chuvola' easily). Pretty frickin impressive CV (or resume for the yanks)
Lyle and Chuvalo would lean on each other for 12 dull rds & Lyles superior physical strength & punch would make the difference IMO.
Let him post, easy enough to ignore the gibberish. So far I've read all kinds of nonsense here and never suffered so much as a bruise.
However this theortetical is a bit of a snoozer for me. Not sure I can say why. This probably would be a great fight but to imagine it is frustrating for me. I always think of Chuvalo as a rock and Lyle as a great power puncher. I would be pulling for George in this one and I know George would be standing at the last bell. Lyle might be likely to win a decision here. I hate it that they didnt just step into the ring and settle it. They were both active at the same time.
Oh my dear I seem to have made a spelling mistake. I feel so ashamed. I just hope that one day you can all learn to forget this terrible moment in time and forgive me?
Maybe I should punish myself? Any suggestions are welcome, self harm? financial penalty, force me to listen to the Spice Girls CD 24/7, get a job in a call-center? I feel so dirty and ashamed, I'm sitting in a deep, deep dark hole of guilt and depression and feel there is no way out. Moments like these certainly put war, murder and death into perspective.
Maybe one day we can all put this all behind us and realise this is just a Boxing Forum and from time to time people will make silly mistakes? No matter how terrible and unforgivable mine has been I just hope for the future harmony and goodwill of this web-site forgiveness is granted to me. I need it and without it I see no future for myself here. Untill that fine sunny day maybe I should wear a black arm band, hang my head in shame, burn my Degree in Mechanical Engineering, hang my head in shame and throw myself at the mercy of my local College and beg for them to let me join their Basic English For Adults class?
I will make it my very reason for living to be to right this terrible wrong I have inflicted on this Forum. I have a dream that one we can put this vile nightmare behind us all and I will have become a bigger, better and more rounded person because of it. Then maybe one day in the distance future we could all meet up, embrace, share a few cool beers and hey, maybe even look back and laugh at this day.
Is this a pipe dream? Please don't say yes, don't give up on me, I can change, I can improve and develop as a person, I can rebuild myself, I can and I promise you all with every fibre in my body and swearing by all things holy and loved by me I WILL.
I have already made my first if small step on putting things right by editing my initial post. I hope that helps? I really do. I just suppose all I can hope for is with time and the right support system these things that are wrong with me can be corrected. At least this has helped me come to terms with my terrible problems and I am now willing to face them head on.
I just hope that I can work through my current feeling of shame and guilt. I feel so dirty. I've just got out of a steaming hot shower and been scrubbing myself with wire wool and bleach for hours. My skin is read raw and bleeding in many places but that's ok, I deserve the pain but I just cant get ride of the stench of failing.
But the pain helps, I know I need to be punished and punished in the very worst of ways. Maybe I need to clean myself inside ad well? But I am out of bleach and too ashamed to leave the house. Is there anyone out there that can help me?
Please help me, I'm falling apart here. Just for a few days untill I clean myself physically, mentally and spiritually. Then I can start afresh, rebuild myself and become that better person I so want to be.
Do you think I can do it? Or should I just give up now a reach for the Vodka and sleeping pills. I want and really believe I can become a better person, but I can only do this if I know you care.
Ko, I think we have all learned something here. As we know these are character building moments. Now knowing what you did wrong is the first step toward rehab. However as you admitted a consequence must also follow. I'm thinking the intense Spice Girl punishment would fit the bill. However you would need to post the lyrics of at least one of these songs (once you have it memorized), in the Boxrec poetry corner.
Just so's we know you actually went through the pain. It will be OK, this too shall pass.
Lyle by decision. For a big guy he could throw some CRISP inside combos, which would make Chuvalo have more respect on the inside then he usually did. Lyle might tire late from George's body-punching, but I see Lyle winning the fight with his superior jab and his under-rated inside fight game.
dempseyfire wrote:Lyle by decision. For a big guy he could throw some CRISP inside combos, which would make Chuvalo have more respect on the inside then he usually did. Lyle might tire late from George's body-punching, but I see Lyle winning the fight with his superior jab and his under-rated inside fight game.
I think I agree with dempseyfire on this one I think a motivated has the strength and Boxing ability to outpount Chuvalo.
My only small doubt is over 15 rounds how much effect would Chuvalos body attacks have on Lyle? Would Big Ron wilt late on?[/b]
