can you be a knock out artist but yet be a defensive fighter

[spudder56]

Roberto Duran was a puncher and very good defensively as well, he didn't take many punches for someone so in yer face in the ring

yes the Panama Animal great boxer as well as banger the most savage man I ever saw in the ring as well as the most inteligent Without doubt imo the greatest Lightweight who ever stepped through the ropes

[Tomasino]

Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles and Charley Burley. They all had fight ending power.

[matko]

Edwin Rosario is underrated great defensive fighter who could punch great counter puncher to on the back foot and front foot.

Also likes out James toney great fighter to watch for a purist fan with frightening power his stoppage of Charles Williams was brutal and killer instinct like a murderers on death row

[Jeff Thomas]

Naz.... Curry..... Are probably the best shouts

Modern day at least

[Matt Teague]

james toney

[safeerah]

The reason why im asking this is if you look at the majority of guys that are considered real bangers they tend to be quite aggressive in their styles, guys like Mclellan, Jackson, etc tended to be guys who came forward rather than boxing off of the backfoot and werent the hardest guys to hit. So yeah what do you think? If you do have examples of guys who were or are more defensively minded but big punchers/ ko artists then give some examples.

It is a difficult one, because punchers take chances to land and their power can work against them if they throw and their opponent gets there first.

[lefty]

The reason why im asking this is if you look at the majority of guys that are considered real bangers they tend to be quite aggressive in their styles, guys like Mclellan, Jackson, etc tended to be guys who came forward rather than boxing off of the backfoot and werent the hardest guys to hit. So yeah what do you think? If you do have examples of guys who were or are more defensively minded but big punchers/ ko artists then give some examples.

It is a difficult one, because punchers take chances to land and their power can work against them if they throw and their opponent gets there first.

Yeah thats why i asked really because when you're a defensive minded counter puncher you tend to not fully commit to your punches which in turn means your not hitting with full power really.

[Old bones Ian]

On these shores Maurice Hope is up there with any of them.

[Dan Dares]

wlad x 4 - fights scared, and knock's em out

[safeerah]

wlad x 4 - fights scared, and knock's em out

Yes, come to think of it.

[danconnollyeire]

David Haye fits the criteria

[lefty]

David Haye fits the criteria

Yeah I did think about Haye actually! I find it hard to classify if he's a defensive fighter or not though. I know he fights A lot on the back foot but he's pretty aggressive aswell at times so I find it hard to say if he fits in there or not.

[safeerah]

David Haye fits the criteria

Yeah I did think about Haye actually! I find it hard to classify if he's a defensive fighter or not though. I know he fights A lot on the back foot but he's pretty aggressive aswell at times so I find it hard to say if he fits in there or not.

I think the fights against Audley, Barrett, Ruiz where he became the puncher and fights against Valuev, Klitchko showed the boxer, these could qualify him.

[safeerah]

David Haye fits the criteria

Yeah I did think about Haye actually! I find it hard to classify if he's a defensive fighter or not though. I know he fights A lot on the back foot but he's pretty aggressive aswell at times so I find it hard to say if he fits in there or not.

I think the fights against Audley, Barrett, Ruiz where he became the puncher and fights against Valuev, Klitchko showed the boxer, these could qualify him.

[Arniesgym]

James Toney

[danconnollyeire]

A primed RJJ? Possibly Groves

[MightyWarrior]

On these shores Maurice Hope is up there with any of them.

Or the guy who knocked him out with one stunning punch, one of the defensive greats Wilfred Benitez.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqEk8gU4C6U

[Lenny]

Now Herol Graham is often thought of as a defensive master, and oddly his KO rate from 1983 to 1998 was very high 26 wins 22 KO's
before that 1978 to 1982 it was 22 wins 5 KO's ,

He changed his style when Barney Eastwood came in during the mid eighties and became more aggressive

[littlepug]

what about hagler ? he could bang and had an underated defence

[palooka]

Benitez was amazing against the ropes and could really hit when he wanted to.

[spudder56]

Benitez was amazing against the ropes and could really hit when he wanted to.

Yes Wilfred Benitez Great Fighter

[Craig14]

Mark Breland sprung to mind.

[stujones]

A prime RJJ was who I thought of immediately with the thread title.

[loaded_gloves]

Guys guys guys, come on - JOE LOUIS for a start! Not to forget Henry Armstrong, Ray Robinson, Archie Moore, Jersey Joe Walcott, Ezzard Charles, Carlos Monzon, Ike Williams, Jack Johnson, Alexis Arguello, Jimmy Wilde, Floyd Patterson...

Gentlemen, where are the Greats in this thread? Do you gents not enjoy the rich history of our sport? You're missing out on so much. That's all from Captain Patronising for now... but I'll be back.

[Counter-puncher]

loaded gloves:

Armstrong a defensive fighter/ ko artist? ever heard the phrase 'pressure fighter'?

Walcott, Charles, Jack Johnson, and I think Patterson all already mentioned on the thread

other than that your patronising was really, really, really well-placed, here. i await with baited breath your next contribution to our collective knowledge of the sport's rich history.