padwork

[Teddy's Toupee]

Is padwork more about a boxing coach showing off? Does it help boost the ego of the person with the pads rather than benefitting the boxer?

[kierny]

Personally helps me work on my boxing technique

[1 nut]

Pad work is great one on one work for lots of things like fitness , technique , sharpening up , nothing to do with ego,s maybe you can have fun on them but when time is right

[Teddy's Toupee]

Personally helps me work on my boxing technique

But any more than bagwork or sparring would?

[safeerah]

Personally helps me work on my boxing technique

But any more than bagwork or sparring would?

Padwork sharpens up the boxer as well as giving the trainer a feel as to how the boxer's technique is developing, along with power, the bags don't improve technique, because you can't extend.

[Scrap]

Personally helps me work on my boxing technique

But any more than bagwork or sparring would?

Very good point

[1 nut]

I'd say pad work is better than any for sharpening , and the fitness you receive on pads isn't perfect for the ring it just adds to it so sparring is essential for the rounds , ring fitness

[Wales]

Little kid in mayweathers gym knows how to hit the pads - not his son is it?

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri= ... alGqlHNRh8

[Teddy's Toupee]

I'd say pad work is better than any for sharpening , and the fitness you receive on pads isn't perfect for the ring it just adds to it so sparring is essential for the rounds , ring fitness

Surely sparring is better for sharpening up timing and accuracy. I just feel padwork is more "show" than substance (speedballs as well).

[LeedsLad]

Fighters do way too much padwork these days.

I think it should be used for warm ups/warm downs, and a bit of cardio here and there.

Aside from that, it's useful for Boxercise classes only.

The trainer should be watching the fighter go about his work and coaching him.

Watch videos of Nathan Cleverly training and you'll see why his punch technique and footwork is abysmal, then watch videos of the training in the Romanza gym - difference in quality is ridiculous.

I think trainers have been blinded by Roger and Floyd's routine on the pads, when in reality it's all for show and a bit of cardio work, nothing more. All their best stuff is when Floyd is whacking the bags and Roger is just stood watching and observing.

[coachster]

I personally think that all the high speed padwork that is prevalent in the majority of gyms nowadays is all about show and has no substance to it other than perhaps a liitle bit of a conditioning effect. It is used as an ego boost for the coach, the boxer, or quite often both the coach and the boxer.

The pads are a great way of improving technique when used correctly to correct faults and develop techniques. Fault correction and technique development is very rarely done in front of an audience and is usually done at a slow pace and then built up into a skill over a period of time.

In my opinion the pads are a preliminary tool to develop a technique which would then be reinforced with bagwork, shadow boxing, conditioned sparring, and open sparring in that order.

Just my opinion for what its worth, I know others may have different views.

[arlovski]

LeedsLad speaks the truth! Been saying the same thing for years, ever since the slappy/showy padwork has become so popular due to Mayweather.
Fighters of old worked the bag, not mitts, for multiple rounds, working on technique and power, whille the trainer observed, broke down faults in technique, demonstrated what he wanted.

I'm from Leeds, do you train mate? If so, where out of interest?

[jameswilson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QevWKNM9JWY

[coachster]

Follow this link and you will see the pads in use as a coaching tool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVQuidJl ... re=related

[Teddy's Toupee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QevWKNM9JWY

The Mayweather team do all the serious stuff "off-camera" don't they? The padwork is just entertainment. In relation to the clip, the training that they do behind closed doors certainly paid off against Hatton.

[jameswilson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QevWKNM9JWY

The Mayweather team do all the serious stuff "off-camera" don't they? The padwork is just entertainment. In relation to the clip, the training that they do behind closed doors certainly paid off against Hatton.

I was gonna say Hatton has a point about the padwork Mayweather does on camera where nobody seems to notice that Floyd might be looking at the camera but Roger is looking at Floyd and basically hitting the pads into his hands. By the same token tho whilst Ricky says that padwork doesn't represent a fight, I really was never sold on his padwork where he'd hit Billy Graham with that sumo suit on, Ricky says nobody is gonna be right in front of you and let you hit them like that, well the same can be said for the sumo suit. Altho I'm sure that is more for endurance and being able to throw hard shots a lot for 3 minutes rather than any work on tequnique.

I also thought it was good of Roger to admit to being the best in the World at fornicating his Mum at the end of that vid.

[Boxingcutsman]

I mainly use the pads if I'm drilling a move to use on a percific opponent and set traps or if i wanna do some high pressure rounds but other than that I stand back and watch them shadow, bag work etc and coach from that, my personal preference is that there's nothing better for ring craft, timing, etc than quality sparring, there's no substitute in my opinion. Not saying my way is right but it's working in our camp and were doing amazingly well.

[LeedsLad]

LeedsLad speaks the truth! Been saying the same thing for years, ever since the slappy/showy padwork has become so popular due to Mayweather.
Fighters of old worked the bag, not mitts, for multiple rounds, working on technique and power, whille the trainer observed, broke down faults in technique, demonstrated what he wanted.

I'm from Leeds, do you train mate? If so, where out of interest?

I don't mate, need to start doing something though, right fat knacker these days

[Old bones Ian]

When did the use of pads start?

[Scrap]

In Hungary, I believe just after the War, the 2nd one. D

[Shirow]

I think that proper padwork is very useful for training technique especially for beginners. I've trained some white collar boxers from scratch before and it's the easiest way. You can have your boxer stand in front of you put their feet in the fight place, get them to throw the shots and adjust your position until they are throwing them at the correct length and at the correct angle. When they can do that the next step is for them to replicate on the bag and after that replicate it in sparring.
Once you get to top class i think it is of little use as you know what you should be doing and you can be verbally corrected on any slip ups. Horses for courses though it's clear that Roach just drills Pacman in combinations. You could tell and Freddie has admitted that the KO combination of Hatton was a combo that he reeled off automatically as it had been repeated so many times in training.

I've thought for a long time that Floyd & Roger's slappy pad routine is just for entertainment at the open workouts because they don't want anyone to see anything that they do in 'real' training.

[Scrap]

I think that proper padwork is very useful for training technique especially for beginners. I've trained some white collar boxers from scratch before and it's the easiest way. You can have your boxer stand in front of you put their feet in the fight place, get them to throw the shots and adjust your position until they are throwing them at the correct length and at the correct angle. When they can do that the next step is for them to replicate on the bag and after that replicate it in sparring.
Once you get to top class i think it is of little use as you know what you should be doing and you can be verbally corrected on any slip ups. Horses for courses though it's clear that Roach just drills Pacman in combinations. You could tell and Freddie has admitted that the KO combination of Hatton was a combo that he reeled off automatically as it had been repeated so many times in training.

I've thought for a long time that Floyd & Roger's slappy pad routine is just for entertainment at the open workouts because they don't want anyone to see anything that they do in 'real' training.

Actually its very good way of Training the Nervous system to adapt to Distance and Feel.

[billy nelson]

LeedsLad speaks the truth! Been saying the same thing for years, ever since the slappy/showy padwork has become so popular due to Mayweather.
Fighters of old worked the bag, not mitts, for multiple rounds, working on technique and power, whille the trainer observed, broke down faults in technique, demonstrated what he wanted.

I'm from Leeds, do you train mate? If so, where out of interest?

That tippy tippy stuff is a lot of shit all for the cameras

[arlovski]

I know mate, but a lot of trainers have copied it in the last few years – I’ve seen coaches drilling 30 punch flashy combinations on the pads with their fighters but their chin’s out to dry, crap footwork, can’t slip a shot and don’t develop proper leverage for any power.

It’s a shame, because mitts are a great tool when used correctly and in conjunction with other decent training, as Shirow describes above

[John1980]

LeedsLad speaks the truth! Been saying the same thing for years, ever since the slappy/showy padwork has become so popular due to Mayweather.
Fighters of old worked the bag, not mitts, for multiple rounds, working on technique and power, whille the trainer observed, broke down faults in technique, demonstrated what he wanted.

I'm from Leeds, do you train mate? If so, where out of interest?

That tippy tippy stuff is a lot of shit all for the cameras

In the times i've been up at yours billy l have seen you devote no time to the tippy tappy stuff...if anything l have been taken aback at the hard work