P4P SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS:

[NazNaci1]

Gomez will fight Hamed

who wants to take on Charles?

Whitaker will take on Charles. Sign it up, mate

[JDC]

Leonard has agreed to fight Jofre. Degeneration has indicated his willingness to manage Leonard in the most legitimate way. Dropping belts ALWAYS taints a fighters legacy in the SIM... Degeneration should be aware of this.

Crease, you seem to have missed the fight (with Jofre) out in the OP

[JDC]

Jofre is 1(1) - 1(1) - 1 against Duran

Marciano was stopped by Louis.

Jofre is the biggest fight out there, by a mile. He drew with Duran last week, and if any fight were to challenge the Lonsdales legitimacy... it would surely be... Leonard vs Jofre... let Marciano earn his right, and ignore Crease's frantic PM's (which I'm sure he's been sending to Leonards honorable manager)

[Crease]

Lonsdale Pride should be fought for by the top two boxers in the sim... They are:
Benny Leonard – 41 pts
Rocky Marciano - 38 pts

Both men are willing to relinquish their World titles in order to make the fight happen... As such, (and as has happened before in the Featherweight & Heavyweight seasons) this fight will rightfully be fore the Londale belt.

Duran & Louis have done well to meet the three defence quota, and they will unify... But they are not the top fighters of this sim.

[JDC]

Lonsdale Pride should be fought for by the top two boxers in the sim... They are:
Benny Leonard – 41 pts
Rocky Marciano - 38 pts

Both men are willing to relinquish their World titles in order to make the fight happen... As such, (and as has happened before in the Featherweight & Heavyweight seasons) this fight will rightfully be fore the Londale belt.

Duran & Louis have done well to meet the three defence quota, and they will unify... But they are not the top fighters of this sim.

These rankings take no account of form... Louis and Duran are the form fighters and have each earned the right to unify.

Next...

[JDC]

Either be a manager, or a commissioner. Don't try and be both, dictators end up like Colonel Gadaffi and Saddam Hussein...

... lynched, by their own mob

[Crease]

Sign it up then.

No probs mate.

As for D, Jofre is the highest ranked challenger for Leonard's belt so surely he can be put in against Greb for the vacant title can he not?

That is correct. Robinson will fight another WBC ranked Contender and Jofre will fight another IBF ranked Contender.

Whoever calls them out first and it in the top 10s, will get the fights.

[JDC]

Either be a manager, or a commissioner. Don't try and be both, dictators end up like Colonel Gadaffi and Saddam Hussein...

... lynched, by their own mob

[Crease]

These rankings take no account of form... Louis and Duran are the form fighters and have each earned the right to unify.

Correct. And they will unify.... Just not for the Lonsdale Belt. That right is only for the top two fighters, just like in the Ring Magazine in real life... Neither Duran nor Louis are even in the top 3...

This is a Commish's ruling... And I would do it anyway even if Marciano wasn't in it... And that's being truthful.

[JDC]

This is like when the PM goes on holiday, and leaves his deputy in charge of the country... please come back Buzz

[Crease]

One last thing I would say, it that a notable Hall Of Famer once said this: (taken from: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=123143)

The SimRing & Ring belts are only ever contested between the number 1 and number 2 (or in some rare cases 1 & 3) ranked fighters.

The top two fighters in the Sim will fight for the Lonsdale Title... It's all just and fair. And though some might criticise the points rankings... They are an accumulation of the success of boxers. And they are an excellent measure to see how well a boxer has done.


It looks like we are gonna have two megafights then this week.

[Crease]

This is like when the PM goes on holiday, and leaves his deputy in charge of the country... please come back Buzz

Do you really expect me to sanction a Lonsdale fight between the 4th and 5th rankled guys in the Sim...


Actually, I think that is funnier than anything you have said.

[JDC]

The "true" unification fight should always take precedence over any bastardized version in the Lonsdale picture, that's a well-known fact to the people that have been around long enough. Dong Grease should know better.

[JDC]

We all know what the real lineal fight will be this week. Considering Marciano was already KOd by Louis theres not much ground to stand on... 8)

[JDC]

Either be a manager, or a commissioner. Don't try and be both, dictators end up like Colonel Gadaffi and Saddam Hussein...

... lynched, by their own mob

[JDC]

DURAN wants to UNIFY with JOE LOUIS!!! ...as he is also eligible to unify his WBO with the WBA!!!...

...it is time to create the SIM RING P4P LONSDALE LINEAL CHAMPION!!!



In other news...

...SANCHEZ is looking for a WTF TITLE shot, at the newly crowned ''PRINCE'' NASEEM HAMED

Duran vs Louis is signed

Isn't this for the Lonsdale, Crease? True Lineage should begin here...

You are correct. Crease is merely trying to "storm the gates," and we all know his attempts are futile.

[Crease]

You can't just decide that you're gonna have a Lonsdale fight anytime you want.

Actually it's about two World Champions dropping their titles (as has happened before) and the top two guys facing each other.

[Crease]

These rankings take no account of form... Louis and Duran are the form fighters

Do you really want to talk about "form"? Rocky is coming off conclusive victories over Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali over the past two weeks...

"Form" as you call it, doesn't get any better than that.

[Crease]

It is clear that both fights have a valid claim to be Londsale Title fights.

As joint Commish I only have 50% of the say of what goes on around here... I am going to leave Buzz a message and let him make the final ruling.

Until that time, unmatched fighters are still encouraged to call each other out.

[kevo]

How about this? Both fights happen, the winners fight for the Lonsdale next week.

[Crease]

How about this? Both fights happen, the winners fight for the Lonsdale next week.

As a compromise, that would be acceptable to me... But I still want to hear what Buzz says about it.

[JDC]

How about this? Both fights happen, the winners fight for the Lonsdale next week.

Or they man up and make enough defences to become eligible. Duran and Louis could of vacated weeks ago...

Should Leonard and Marciano be getting a chance at unification on the back of what Duran and Louis have achieved?

...let them have an interim fight and make them mandatory for their old title. Add this to the previous defences?

[Crease]

Or they man up and make enough defences to become eligible. Duran and Louis could of vacated weeks ago...

I knew that you would run from this opportunity... Marciano has called out Duran two times this season already and you have run everytime.

[Crease]

Duran and Louis could of vacated weeks ago...

Instead they choose (Duran especially) soft title defences to meet the quota... Marciano voluntarily defended against Joe Louis & Muhammad Ali... At least The Rock takes the hard fights.

[JDC]

Earn your right to fight for the Lonsdale.

You are trying to employ the type of tactic which you have always denounced.

If you drop your belts you have no bargaining power, exept your interim whatsit Title.