Dawson/Bryant Aug 4

[Stinger]

Take it to PM guys....

[amwsnw]

I know these questions get asked all the time, but it really shits me so I must vent....How does Daniel Dawson defend a PABA title against a guy with a 9-9 record !!! What credit does this give the belt ?? very little in my opinion. I dont blame Daniel, he's just in there to do ajob regardless of who is put in front of him. But crap like this needs to stop. Have heard a bit of talk around about the Sharp v Allen fight. IMO Sharp was an easy victor (on the cards), in a tough, tough fight....97-93.
I say it every time, but lets hope Dawson fights a creditable opponent next time round.....apparently he was suppose to fight the NZ champ this time but it fell through. Not sure of the kiwis name though.

[kylamy]

Hey, I agree with you to a certain extent, but you also need to understand that Dawson, after two 12 round wars with Virgil Kalakoda, was suffering some injuries and, he certainly took his time to get back to fight fitness.

He was matched with rugged Kiwi, Lee Oti, who withdrew for some reason, Then Dawson himself, suffered another niggling injury, and they decided to sit out the last show in Perth.

So this time, they just wanted to get busy and have a hit out, nothing too hard and nothing too easy, this was a voluntary defence and soon, he will be due for a Mandatory defence against the #1 or 2 or the highest available contender.

So in this fight, they were looking to ease back into work, i don't think you can blame them, after-all, these guys are human, they're not machines, they are entitled to have an easy fight here and there.

Look back, even the once invincible Mike Tyson had a few easy fights in his comeback fights, ie:Peter McNeeley etc, so it happens all the time and in every country, not just here, people forget that, and its easy to criticize our fighter's for wanting to stay active, and not have tough fights every time out, but I understand where you, as a supporter of the sport is coming from, you pay good money and want to see good competitive fights every time, and your entitled to expect that.

Look i think we all need to look at the bigger picture here, Dawson, is trying to get his career back on track, I am sure he is willing to fight almost anyone, provided the terms and conditions are right, hence him calling out Trout, and good luck to him, because in the bigger scheme of things, Trout may even look at Dawson as an easy voluntary defence, plus Daniel will get a sensible dollar for fighting him, and the chance to win the WBA World title, something another Aussie, simply decided to forgo for his own reasons.

Everyone criticized Frank Lo-Porto for taking the Trout fight, but they also criticised him for taking other easier fights as well, even after he defeated Dawson for the title, so there is a no win scenario for the fighter's, your damned if you do, and your damned if you don't.

The Dawson vs. Oti fight will be a good one, if and when it happens, I refereed their last fight, won by Dawson in the 5th round, after a real struggle, But Oti, as he has shown, can fight and wants to avenge that loss.

So yes there are better and harder fights for Dawson out there, but i suggest we give him sometime and let him get his career back on track, after all, at his age, and if i was his trainer, i would be looking to work smarter, not harder, let's give him a chance and see what he really can do in this division, he may fail, he may succeed, but i would prefer that as Aussies, we get behind our guys, and give them a chance to see just how far they can go, without the criticism.

I am not criticizing you for your questions about his choice of opponents, or the quality and level of his opponents, i am just saying after what the kid's been through, at least just give him a chance. I know he is not scared to fight some of the best, he has proven that in the past, so let's just wait and see if he can replicate his past efforts ( whether they be good or bad) before trying to bury him once and for all.

Now regarding the Allan v Sharpe fight, while i did not see the fight, from all reports it was a close hard fight and the two Judges who scored a draw, are very experienced Judges with International experience, but that does not make them immune from stuffing up.

I have spoken with both judges in recent days and got their view and reasoning for scoring the way they did, at fight's end, both said, that neither knew who they had winning, they did not know who had won the fight. until the decision was announced, and that is the correct way, but one Judge had it quite wide, and that is not to say he was wrong, it was no doubt one of those close hard fights.

I am really sure there was a lot of WA pride on the line here, Jeremy Allan has had a couple of good hit-outs in recent weeks with a 10 round loss to Shaick for the Aussie title, then a few weeks later he got some good rounds, in losing a 6 round decision to Rohan Murdock, So he was match fit.

Where on the other hand, this was Luke's first 10 round fight, Plus he had not had a hit out for a few months, so in effect, he was the one behind the eight ball, but he showed his quality and really made a fight of it, by taking Jeremy the 10 round distance, and it no doubt was a close decision.

It was a shame for both boys really, but it will make for a great rematch with lots of fire on the next show, Also it was a shame no-one got to wear the beautiful title belt, because i had the two WA State title belts made overseas for Ty Colman, and what beautiful belts they are, It was so much nicer, than the ones made up here in Qld, plus they were cheaper, even with the delivery from overseas.

One ANBF Senior executive, has now seen how nice they are, and they're looking at them as a replacement, for the very average belts they've been giving out for the past few years, which quite frankly, are a disgrace for our National belt, so we will keep you informed.

[Da Voice]

Australian belt should be Australian made - end of story

[Sweet P]

In regards to the Allan vs Sharp fight.

It was a really great fight, a few of the middle rounds were close, one guy was coming forward throwing body shots and having a bit of success with his jab and right hand, the other was fighting off the back foot and using angles and throwing combination punches. Sometimes a scorecard dosnt reflect just how close some of the rounds were. A lot of rounds come down to a handful of punches.

I just found out today Jeremy is in hospital, Im going to try to go down to visit him tomorrow. Apparently he went in Saturday as he has an eye injury. Im not sure of the exact injury but will try to find out.

I agree in regards to the belts, they were wonderfully made and really looked great.

The whole card was great, Some really promising prospects coming through WA at the moment, There are 3-4 good amatuers who are looking to turn Pro in the next few months.

[p4p1]

In regards to the Allan vs Sharp fight.

It was a really great fight, a few of the middle rounds were really close, one guy was coming forward throwing body shots and having a bit of success with his jab and right hand, the other was fighting off the back foot and using angles and throwing combination punches. Sometimes a scorecard dosnt reflect just how close some of the rounds were. A lot of rounds come down to a handful of punches.

I just found out today Jeremy is in hospital, Im going to try to go down to visit him tomorrow. Apparently he went in Saturday as he has an eye injury. Im not sure of the exact injury but will try to find out.

I agree in regards to the belts, they were wonderfully made and really looked great.

The whole card was great, Some really promising prospects coming through WA at the moment, There are 3-4 good amatuers who are looking to turn Pro in the next few months.

they looked a lot better than the last WA state title i saw

[Sweet P]

In regards to the Allan vs Sharp fight.

It was a really great fight, a few of the middle rounds were really close, one guy was coming forward throwing body shots and having a bit of success with his jab and right hand, the other was fighting off the back foot and using angles and throwing combination punches. Sometimes a scorecard dosnt reflect just how close some of the rounds were. A lot of rounds come down to a handful of punches.

I just found out today Jeremy is in hospital, Im going to try to go down to visit him tomorrow. Apparently he went in Saturday as he has an eye injury. Im not sure of the exact injury but will try to find out.

I agree in regards to the belts, they were wonderfully made and really looked great.

The whole card was great, Some really promising prospects coming through WA at the moment, There are 3-4 good amatuers who are looking to turn Pro in the next few months.

they looked a lot better than the last WA state title i saw

They sure did p4p. They were really impressive looking belts.

[kylamy]

Australian belt should be Australian made - end of story

You actually call them belts? they're supposed to be a reflection of the Australian title?? I bet some of our past champions would vomit, if given one of them

But in all reality, I would expect you to say nothing less than that, I bet if your mates bought the idea up, you run with it.

Anyway, what would you know about the Aussie belt, you have never seen one, never presented one, and in fact, you will NEVER present one, or have the opportunity to watch one being won.

Sadly, i like to purchase all Aussie made stuff as well, but the current belt is an absolute disgrace, made by two fools who charge the earth for them, they take no pride in their work, and only do it for the money, you only have to look at them to see that, nothing more to say

[Da Voice]

Australian belt should be Australian made - end of story

You actually call them belts? they're supposed to be a reflection of the Australian title?? I bet some of our past champions would vomit, if given one of them

But in all reality, I would expect you to say nothing less than that, I bet if your mates bought the idea up, you run with it.

Anyway, what would you know about the Aussie belt, you have never seen one, never presented one, and in fact, you will NEVER present one, or have the opportunity to watch one being won.

Sadly, i like to purchase all Aussie made stuff as well, but the current belt is an absolute disgrace, made by two fools who charge the earth for them, they take no pride in their work, and only do it for the money, you only have to look at them to see that, nothing more to say

Naturally! For once, it's good to see you're capable of posting an intelligent non-abusive comment.

[kylamy]

In regards to the Allan vs Sharp fight.

It was a really great fight, a few of the middle rounds were close, one guy was coming forward throwing body shots and having a bit of success with his jab and right hand, the other was fighting off the back foot and using angles and throwing combination punches. Sometimes a scorecard dosnt reflect just how close some of the rounds were. A lot of rounds come down to a handful of punches.

I just found out today Jeremy is in hospital, Im going to try to go down to visit him tomorrow. Apparently he went in Saturday as he has an eye injury. Im not sure of the exact injury but will try to find out.

I agree in regards to the belts, they were wonderfully made and really looked great.

The whole card was great, Some really promising prospects coming through WA at the moment, There are 3-4 good amatuers who are looking to turn Pro in the next few months.

Yes Ben, from what i am told, it was a very competitive fight and a hard fight to score, I doubt anyone could argue with that, even tho, it was a draw, it was a good advertisement for WA boxing.

Yes i know there are a few good prospects coming through the system over there, I see this as an exciting time for Boxing in WA, Let's hope they get matched correctly early on, because this will reflect in their performances, once they settle in as professionals.

Sadly, I must add, that if past performance is any barometer, don't expect them to be rated too soon in the National ratings, we all know the reasons why there,

I am led to believe there will be something done about these discrepancies soon.

Hey, well done to you and the team on a good job last Friday evening, Sorry i could not be there to enjoy the night with you, that's the first night ive missed over there in years.

Chat sometime over the weekend mate, shame you couldn't have sneaked over for the Soliman fight, we're all gonna be there, Ty Colman is coming, along with Billy and a few others, including a couple of the international Judges you've met before as well.

[kylamy]

Australian belt should be Australian made - end of story

You actually call them belts? they're supposed to be a reflection of the Australian title?? I bet some of our past champions would vomit, if given one of them

But in all reality, I would expect you to say nothing less than that, I bet if your mates bought the idea up, you run with it.

Anyway, what would you know about the Aussie belt, you have never seen one, never presented one, and in fact, you will NEVER present one, or have the opportunity to watch one being won.

Sadly, i like to purchase all Aussie made stuff as well, but the current belt is an absolute disgrace, made by two fools who charge the earth for them, they take no pride in their work, and only do it for the money, you only have to look at them to see that, nothing more to say

Naturally! For once, it's good to see you're capable of posting an intelligent non-abusive comment.

Absolutely Sunshine Not abusive, but truthfully and simply, they are the facts

[Da Voice]

Your comment in red is simply silly. How many Oz belts have you presented (albeit ANBF Secretary then President at some stage), which were contested outside Queensland & how many will you in the future??
First time I sighted OZ title belt was in 1994, when Garth Cussion came home (Adelaide) after beating Mick Beattie in Sydney. Remember the days, when you were only a baby in the game??
IMO, not a great deal has changed since then

[amwsnw]

I am aware of Daniels ups and downs of recent times and spoke with him for some time during the evening. I dont blame him at all, he is told who to fight,,,,and yes, IF the OTI fight happens it will be a good fight. I dont remember Laporto copping too much flack when he took on Trout. Much like Dawson didnt cop any when he fought Dzinzuriik. Hes a fighter, he fights.
The fight was easy. Very easy. Thats my point. If it was average opponent who gave him competetive rounds I could see the value, but this wasnt.I have always, and will always a be a huge supporter of The Rock. Just hoping the management start looking after him and making him some money with bigger fights.
Hey, international judges or not, I reckon the two guys who had it a draw were two of only a hand full in the club who may have had it that way. Take nothing away from Jeremy, it was a tough bout, but the scores were totally wrong on two counts. Odd situation when two judges get it wrong outta the three. Be interested to know if their scores were the same round by round or they just came to the same conclusion. Good luck with ya recovery Jeremy. Keep marching forward Rock, your day will come.
Thats why I love this sport....open to soo much debate !!

[kylamy]

Your comment in red is simply silly. How many Oz belts have you presented (albeit ANBF Secretary then President at some stage), which were contested outside Queensland & how many will you in the future??
First time I sighted OZ title belt was in 1994, when Garth Cussion came home (Adelaide) after beating Mick Beattie in Sydney. Remenber the days, when you were only a baby in the game??
IMO, not a great deal has changed since then

Oh my dear, I'm so sorry, so you have sighted a belt, well dandy doo for you.

My comment is not silly, because ive presented many many belts, how many have you presented pretender? Oh, tell me, how many will you present in the future? Ill tell you --- NONE, so what's silly about that statement, it's simply the truth, but you don't like hearing the truth now do you??

Yes my boy, the first and only Oz title belt you saw was back in 1994, and NONE since, must be a sad prospect for you, knowing you will never have any input, or action what so ever in your beloved Oz title,

But wait? there's hope, maybe your one and only mate in Qld could pull another shifty for you, and have you present one in Qld, now there's a thought, let's just see how much of a mate he really is, and whether he will actually do you a favour to prove me wrong???

Somehow, I already know the answer, even if you don't?? ha-ha

Anyway, can't play anymore, gotta get to bed, gotta catch a plane early in morning, you know, those things that go up up and away, but i use the ones that give boarding passes, unlike your mystical airline??

[Da Voice]

Your comment in red is simply silly. How many Oz belts have you presented (albeit ANBF Secretary then President at some stage), which were contested outside Queensland & how many will you in the future??
First time I sighted OZ title belt was in 1994, when Garth Cussion came home (Adelaide) after beating Mick Beattie in Sydney. Remenber the days, when you were only a baby in the game??
IMO, not a great deal has changed since then

Oh my dear, I'm so sorry, so you have sighted a belt, well dandy doo for you.

My comment is not silly, because ive presented many many belts, how many have you presented pretender? Oh, tell me, how many will you present in the future? Ill tell you --- NONE, so what's silly about that statement, it's simply the truth, but you don't like hearing the truth now do you??

Yes my boy, the first and only Oz title belt you saw was back in 1994, and NONE since, must be a sad prospect for you, knowing you will never have any input, or action what so ever in your beloved Oz title,

But wait? there's hope, maybe your one and only mate in Qld could pull another shifty for you, and have you present one in Qld, now there's a thought, let's just see how much of a mate he really is, and whether he will actually do you a favour to prove me wrong???

Somehow, I already know the answer, even if you don't?? ha-ha

Anyway, can't play anymore, gotta get to bed, gotta catch a plane early in morning, you know, those things that go up up and away, but i use the ones that give boarding passes, unlike your mystical airline??

First paragraph is equally silly, given, other than maintaining ratings page (for time being), I've got nothing to do with ANBF Ltd nor ANBF Qld Inc for that matter.
Good night....I think you need it....you're all over the joint like a bush shithouse.

In March 2008 @ Nerang Fair Coffee Lounge, you told me you are going to give the game away 'cos it's interfering too much with your business (at this stage I won't elaborate).
Maybe now it's a good time to do so, not only to save your business but also face??

[kylamy]

Your comment in red is simply silly. How many Oz belts have you presented (albeit ANBF Secretary then President at some stage), which were contested outside Queensland & how many will you in the future??
First time I sighted OZ title belt was in 1994, when Garth Cussion came home (Adelaide) after beating Mick Beattie in Sydney. Remenber the days, when you were only a baby in the game??
IMO, not a great deal has changed since then

Oh my dear, I'm so sorry, so you have sighted a belt, well dandy doo for you.

My comment is not silly, because ive presented many many belts, how many have you presented pretender? Oh, tell me, how many will you present in the future? Ill tell you --- NONE, so what's silly about that statement, it's simply the truth, but you don't like hearing the truth now do you??

Yes my boy, the first and only Oz title belt you saw was back in 1994, and NONE since, must be a sad prospect for you, knowing you will never have any input, or action what so ever in your beloved Oz title,

But wait? there's hope, maybe your one and only mate in Qld could pull another shifty for you, and have you present one in Qld, now there's a thought, let's just see how much of a mate he really is, and whether he will actually do you a favour to prove me wrong???

Somehow, I already know the answer, even if you don't?? ha-ha

Anyway, can't play anymore, gotta get to bed, gotta catch a plane early in morning, you know, those things that go up up and away, but i use the ones that give boarding passes, unlike your mystical airline??

First paragraph is equally silly, given, other than maintaining ratings page (for time being), I've got nothing to do with ANBF Ltd nor ANBF Qld Inc for that matter.
Good night....I think you need it....you're all over the joint like a bush shithouse.

In March 2008 @ Nerang Fair Coffee Lounge, you told me you are going to give the game away 'cos it's interfering too much with your business (at this stage I won't elaborate).
Maybe now it's a good time to do so, not only to save your business but also face??

Intelligent Lies, your Dreamer

[p4p1]

^^^ seriously guys it is happening in nearly every thread either of you post in maybe we should just sticky a thread for you guys or something because it is in nearly thread. Im not blaming anyone for it even if you guys just keep it to a pm

[Stinger]

^^^ seriously guys it is happening in nearly every thread either of you post in maybe we should just sticky a thread for you guys or something because it is in nearly thread. Im not blaming anyone for it even if you guys just keep it to a pm

[patron]

i fully agree with the two previous posters, i enjoy reading what most of the boys send in, i like reading other peoples opinions of the fight scene ,whether i agree or disagree it is still good reading, but this crap the two ? are going on about is hard to cop, this rubbish about the pen is mightier than the sword is fairytales, either front each other and fight or shake hands and have a schooner of black together,neither of you is a winner at the moment,all the best

[D J Pawsey]

Good call patron.

[Da Voice]

What's wrong with a bit of light entertainment between serious shite??

[p4p1]

What's wrong with a bit of light entertainment between serious shite??

because its not light entertainment its just two guys slagging each other off for their own reasons none of which ever really adds to the conversation on the subject though normally the fist post does, if one or either of you has any insight to aussie boxing we would be happy to read it. But what we don't want to read is two guys saying how corrupt, useless, incompetent, or a liar, scumbag, delusional the other is and what makes it worse is one of you guys is one of the most respected men in aussie boxing.

[Da Voice]

What's wrong with a bit of light entertainment between serious shite??

because its not light entertainment its just two guys slagging each other off for their own reasons none of which ever really adds to the conversation on the subject though normally the fist post does, if one or either of you has any insight to aussie boxing we would be happy to read it. But what we don't want to read is two guys saying how corrupt, useless, incompetent, or a liar, scumbag, delusional the other is and what makes it worse is one of you guys is one of the most respected men in aussie boxing.

Vocaleee most respected man in Oz boxing?? Got news for you mate.

[p4p1]

What's wrong with a bit of light entertainment between serious shite??

because its not light entertainment its just two guys slagging each other off for their own reasons none of which ever really adds to the conversation on the subject though normally the fist post does, if one or either of you has any insight to aussie boxing we would be happy to read it. But what we don't want to read is two guys saying how corrupt, useless, incompetent, or a liar, scumbag, delusional the other is and what makes it worse is one of you guys is one of the most respected men in aussie boxing.

Vocaleee most respected man in Oz boxing?? Got news for you mate.

i said one of the most and i would say he is, though he is not acting like it where ever you are concerned

[Da Voice]

You obviously don't know the real Bradley, who is his own worst enemy