Current Title Bout II ratings....

[BoxBuzz]

As they appear on my stats sheet, Is anyone missing? If so I'll track them down and get them in. I attempted to eliminate all non managed fighters in this readout.


1. Joe Louis
2. Benny Leonard
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Frazier
5. Roberto Duran
6. Ray Robinson
7. Rocky Marciano
8. Gene Tunney
9. Jack Dempsey? Is he being currently managed? If not move everyone up one.
10. Julio Cesar Chavez
11. Willie Pep
12. Marvin Hagler
13. Eder Jofre
14. Ezzard Charles
15. Harry Greb
16. Alexis Arguello
17. Peter Jackson
18. Archie Moore
19. Henry Armstrong
20. Jimmy Wilde
21. Pernell Whitaker
22. Stanley Ketchell
23. Roy Jones Jr
23 1/2 Ricardo Lopez
24. Ray Leonard
25. Salvador Sanchez
26. Mike Spinks/Floyd Mayweather Jr (Tie)
27. Kid Chocolate
28. Joe Gans
29. Abe Attell
30. Mike Tyson
31. Marcel Cerdan
32. Larry Holmes
33. Dulio Loi
34. Kostya Tszyu
35. Kid Gavilan
36. Naseem Hamed
37. Pancho Villa

[JDC]

[DMA1987]

Missing Tommy Hearns

[BoxBuzz]

Hearns is tied with Kid Gavilan.

He was a late starter right? Explains his low rating.

[JDC]

The HWs have a bit of a head start from last season, but that should be starting to get ironed out more as the season goes on.

[Crease]

I do find it hilarious that Crease is trying to justify his bullshit of ranking Chocolate in multiple title rankings and he's fvcking 27th on here!

I find it even more comical that you struggle to interpret the FACTS. Kid Chocolate has amassed 26 points so far this season, and he has done so fairly and justly - and that is a fact.

I have no control over the results and that is a fact.

Kid Chocolate is currently ranked 16th and that is a fact.

Learn to accept the facts, son... It would be your life easier.

[Crease]

The only thing I have to accept is your corruption.

Porve that I am corrupt. Your all talk and no action, bitch.

[BigJuicyHog]

Where is Ricardo Lopez?

[HomicideHenry]

I can accept each of these rankings coupled with the other (even though idk if I agree with either), but on their own they would each be hard to swallow.

I do find it hilarious that Crease is trying to justify his bullshit of ranking Chocolate in multiple title rankings and he's fvcking 27th on here!

THATS WHAT IM SAYING! I kicked Chocolate's ass and I aint anywhere near title shots!

Its about as ridiculous as when McNeeley was suddenly made #7 in the world after beating Frankie Hines, who had 77 losses!

[DMA1987]

Last 2 weeks Hearns beat Arguello, and dropped a super tight SD to Whitaker. Must be better than 4th bottom.

I want my shot.

[BoxBuzz]

Ratings are subjective.......

Commishes who manage fighters will be suspect

It's the reality of sim

I don't think Crease has cooked the numbers, but he does have unfortunate and clumsy luck to be managing a fighter with a big discrepancy in the Ratings. And latecomers get a bad deal....it's the Sim life. Hearns is another example It's hard to catch the leaders when you get a late start...... Maybe we can put some thought into this.


I had the misfortune of having my fighter beat the leading fighter in the sim.


I half wish I could undo it.....I'm sure Crease feels the same.


Can we just let it go?

As with the Frazier/Jofre fight maybe we can attempt to throw some bones out to give a "leg up" to late starters, and happenstance victims.


I suggest payola money directly to me.

[BoxBuzz]

Where is Ricardo Lopez?

I'll find his rating and post it tonight.

[Crease]

See highlighted areas:

Again: Don't enter in to a discussion if you are not willing to look at all the evidence:
Now this is the last time I am explaining Kid Chocolate's position

1. The Kid is currently ranked 16th in the official rankings.
2. The Kid is coming off a win.
3. The Kid is ranked 16th because of the points he has accumulated this season.

In terms of the Title rankings.

I have already explained that the Title Rankings are using a Positional System (wins go up, losses go down) and you have already highlighted that your fighter (Eder Jofre) has failed to win in three weeks, obviously he will drop out of the top 10s... Particularly considering that the other contenders (like Kid Chocolate) are winning their fights.

[Deadendgeneration]

As also stated, heavyweights got a head-start in these rankings. Hence Fraizer being so high here. But having started late, being so low in the official rankings.

[BoxBuzz]

Where is Ricardo Lopez?

I'll find his rating and post it tonight.

He is rated now...23.5 lol

Under Roy Jones, above Sugar Ray