Worst beatings in Boxing

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Worst beatings in Boxing

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In your mind what are the worst beatings in boxing history? mine are;

Dempsey v Willard
Baer vs Carnera
Collins vs Resto
Foreman vs Frazier
Mancini vs Kim
Moore vs Duran
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Well Griffith Paret is missing here I see.

Not sure that the ones that produced fatal results are fair game. Because the "deathmaking" moment may have been a fluke, but the outcome is so horrendous that it transcends whatever "beating" was dished out or endured.

I suppose Benn McClellan could be included but you'd never have known before the fight was over which fighter might have been fatally injured. I have a partner who I consider to be the most knowledgeable head injury specialist in New England, and I've learned that a single punch can be the defining moment. Indeed some winning fighters have been dealt lethal blows that did not take their toll until after they scored their "victory".

Please forgive my gory obsession with this subject, but I have been at the scene of several fatal head injuries in my life, and they have left an indelible impression on me as to the bountiful nature of such an event.

Without offering up an answer, I would say you may want to include some "winning" fighters. If I recall, the onion farmer took a pretty good beating from SRR and won one of their encounters. They used to let fighters "win" in that fashion. Lamotta took a good beating one Saint Valentines day, and was left standing.

A fifteen round thrashing is much harder on the constitution than a clean KO. Patterson probably stayed pretty clear headed as a fighter because he never took serious beatings, though he was on several occasions "seriously beaten". (At least his lights were put out on a few losing occasions).

Ali would be the sort of fighter that would impose more damage on an opponent than a Foreman or a Liston IMHO. A big puncher will put you to sleep in somewhat of a compassionate way if the neurological truth be known. Being beaten on for 15 rounds by a guy who falls JUST SHORT of the power to spark you is the most dangerous scenario. Come to think of it Ali could be ICONIC in both directions...he could also take far too big of a punch to be "safe".
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Mancini/Kim was an epic war, the tragedy that ended it leaves it as a very underrated fight. I wouldn't classify that anywhere near a beating, that was an even fight you mixed in with some real drubbings. Qaiw vs Saad & L Spinks were ugly.
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the beatings the previously pretty much unbeaten Lloyd Honeyghan took from Marlon Starling and Mark Breland were two of the very very worst I saw, both physically and psychologically as both fights were as genuine a grudge fight as u can get.

In the first Honeyghan fought the worst fight of his life, had his jaw and nose broken, his mouth bloodied, his eyes swollen and had as comprehensive a boxing lesson as u can imagine for 9 rounds.

In the second he was beaten to almost an inch of his life in being knocked down 6-7 times with his own hometown fans rabid for his blood. The attack Breland unleashed on Honeyghan with impunity from the seemingly sadistic referee had the ABC commentator screaming "stop the fight for gods sake"....to cap it all off, the london fans let Honeyghan leave to a chorus of "what a load of rubbish".....but I think the Duran-Moore one is the worst I saw.
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The atmosphere of that fight calls to mind what I've read about Lupe Pintor-Johnny Owen. That fight may fit the category,however,I've never seen it and don't want to. Maybe someone here can comment on it...
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Expug wrote:The atmosphere of that fight calls to mind what I've read about Lupe Pintor-Johnny Owen. That fight may fit the category,however,I've never seen it and don't want to. Maybe someone here can comment on it...

Owen was a very very game kid. From memory he had a good lead in the fight when he sustained a horrible cut inside his mouth, which caused him to swallow a lot of blood during rounds.

I watched a documentary on YouTube recently that was recommended to me. The BBC flew Owen's father out to Mexico to meet Pintor at his gym, then they flew Pintor and his family out to Wales to attend the unveiling of the Johnny Owen statue. It was quite a sad, but touching doco.
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yep watson -mccallum is a good one but not a grade a beating imo . watson came back stronger than ever. But it was a schooling as u say.

Calzaghe-Lacey.........

Lewis-Tyson

Holmes-Parkinson ravaged drug coma'd Ali.
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Expug wrote:The atmosphere of that fight calls to mind what I've read about Lupe Pintor-Johnny Owen. That fight may fit the category,however,I've never seen it and don't want to. Maybe someone here can comment on it...
It was an even fight through 8. Then, Pintor landed a huge right in the 9th, and it was downhill from there for Owen.
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Here are some I haven't seen yet:
Chavez-Rosario
Hagler-Hamsho I
Pac-Margarito (loved every second of it)
Ruelas-Garcia (never should've gone to the 11th; I was a kid watching that, and my mother said, "he's gonna get killed")
Bowe-Golota II (just sickening, even though Riddick won)
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Tinnie wrote:
Expug wrote:The atmosphere of that fight calls to mind what I've read about Lupe Pintor-Johnny Owen. That fight may fit the category,however,I've never seen it and don't want to. Maybe someone here can comment on it...

Owen was a very very game kid. From memory he had a good lead in the fight when he sustained a horrible cut inside his mouth, which caused him to swallow a lot of blood during rounds.

I watched a documentary on YouTube recently that was recommended to me. The BBC flew Owen's father out to Mexico to meet Pintor at his gym, then they flew Pintor and his family out to Wales to attend the unveiling of the Johnny Owen statue. It was quite a sad, but touching doco.
Thanks, that fight was at The Olympic in L.A. a tough place for a visitor as it is. I remember Johnnys career well. That was just a fight I missed at the time. Nice for Pintor to go to that unveiling. I would guess the statues in Merthyr Tydfill.
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Rover wrote:Here are some I haven't seen yet:
Chavez-Rosario
Hagler-Hamsho I
Pac-Margarito (loved every second of it)
Ruelas-Garcia (never should've gone to the 11th; I was a kid watching that, and my mother said, "he's gonna get killed")
Bowe-Golota II (just sickening, even though Riddick won)
I was at The Hagler- Hamsho fight. Yeah that was a beating. A very bloody one.
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Expug wrote:
Rover wrote:Here are some I haven't seen yet:
Chavez-Rosario
Hagler-Hamsho I
Pac-Margarito (loved every second of it)
Ruelas-Garcia (never should've gone to the 11th; I was a kid watching that, and my mother said, "he's gonna get killed")
Bowe-Golota II (just sickening, even though Riddick won)
I was at The Hagler- Hamsho fight. Yeah that was a beating. A very bloody one.
55 stitches, I believe. At least Marvin ended the rematch much earlier and spared Mustafa a second thrashing.
Also, how about Trinidad-Reid. Very competitive first half of the fight, but then Tito took over and ruined Reid's career.
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Sanchez-Lopez I deserves a mention.
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Not the worst by a long shot but Naz dished out a cruel beating to Steve Robinson, mentally as much as physically. Similarly Tyson- Bruno 2 where Big Frank completely unravelled before our eyes.
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Toney-Barkley was pretty bad. Toney landed 401 punches in 9 rounds.
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In recent times Froch's beasting of Bute was a bad one.
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This one might spark some controversy, but I think Chavez-Taylor I belongs here.
Flip Homanski described the damage that Taylor had sustained during HBO's Legendary Nights documentary about that fight. Taylor suffered facial fracturing and was urinating pure blood according to the ringside physician.
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It's been mentioned but Bowe-Golota 2 was painful to watch and it absolutely ruined Bowe.
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Matt W wrote:In recent times Froch's beasting of Bute was a bad one.
And fortunately a pretty short one.
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Oh, and Tyson-Biggs was a bad one.

And Pacquiao - De La Hoya (which I thought was a disgraceful mismatch going in).

Also Mayweather - Gatti, Mawyweather couldn't miss.
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Rover wrote:This one might spark some controversy, but I think Chavez-Taylor I belongs here.
Flip Homanski described the damage that Taylor had sustained during HBO's Legendary Nights documentary about that fight. Taylor suffered facial fracturing and was urinating pure blood according to the ringside physician.
Good shout, another fight that ruined the loser.

And of course Ali - Frazier 3 in which both men took brutal beatings.
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Mayweather-Corrales was a bad beating, though not as bad as the Gatti one because Floyd was a bit more cautious with Chico.
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Hopkins dished out some bad ones.
Glen Johnson
Tito
Joppy (who took extra punishment to win a $50,000 bet with B-Hop that Bernard wouldn't KO him)
Valero also thrashed DeMarco.
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Vitali v Briggs
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Taylor wasn't ruined after the Chavez fight, but it certainly sped up the course. He had a few good results after that, if he was ruined he wouldn't have beaten Aaron Davis.
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