They can say he stopped Tomas Adamek in 5 rounds tho!! http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
Cleverly NOT defending against average East European!!
Cleverly NOT defending against average East European!!
Nathan Cleverly to defend his WBO light heavyweight title against Ukraininan Vyacheslav Uzelkov on Oct 27. Uzelkov is another Karpency clone, he struggled by the Algerian Belkacem to win the WBO Intecontinental bauble in July to earn this shot. Not a lot of recognisable names on his record, he was well beaten against Shumenov a few years back and lost to Gutknecht for the European title earlier this year on points.
They can say he stopped Tomas Adamek in 5 rounds tho!! http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
They can say he stopped Tomas Adamek in 5 rounds tho!! http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
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Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
Did the press conference/press release include the phrase "Never been stopped"?dve3333 wrote:Nathan Cleverly to defend his WBO light heavyweight title against Ukraininan Vyacheslav Uzelkov on Oct 27. Uzelkov is another Karpency clone, he struggled by the Algerian Belkacem to win the WBO Intecontinental bauble in July to earn this shot. Not a lot of recognisable names on his record, he was well beaten against Shumenov a few years back and lost to Gutknecht for the European title earlier this year on points.
They can say he stopped Tomas Adamek in 5 rounds tho!! http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
A step up from Karpency, but a huge step down from who Clev should be fighting at this stage of his career.
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jameswilson
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Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
The bout we have all been waiting for.
Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
To be fair to Team Clev, they have tried everything they can to secure the best possible opponent.....
"The main target was American great Bernard Hopkins but after I agreed terms with his promoter Golden Boy, he pulled out. We’ll look to resurrect the fight next year.
IBF world supermiddleweight champion Froch turned down a huge purse to step up a division to take on Cleverly."
"The main target was American great Bernard Hopkins but after I agreed terms with his promoter Golden Boy, he pulled out. We’ll look to resurrect the fight next year.
IBF world supermiddleweight champion Froch turned down a huge purse to step up a division to take on Cleverly."
Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
This really is a repeat of Calzaghe's early WBO title-holding career (except Clev didn't actually have to beat anyone to win it, which makes it worse).
Maybe he should think about that.
Maybe he should think about that.
Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
I see Buncey buddy Lillis is trying to make a case for Uzelkov on twitter being "unlucky" to get the decision against Gutknecht but that's garbage, he lost the first 5 rounds by loading up and being outboxed, rallied in the middle rounds but lost the last 3 or 4 clearly. Nowhere remotely close to winning a decision.
Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
I don't think any of us are surprised with this. Poor opponent but after the Karpency fight he needs to look impressive rather than coast through a 12 round spar like he did against the American nurse.
Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
earsjohn wrote:To be fair to Team Clev, they have tried everything they can to secure the best possible opponent.....
"The main target was American great Bernard Hopkins but after I agreed terms with his promoter Golden Boy, he pulled out. We’ll look to resurrect the fight next year.
IBF world supermiddleweight champion Froch turned down a huge purse to step up a division to take on Cleverly."
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Counter-puncher
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Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
to the threadstarter- love the title, mate. 
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Wake up call
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Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
Hmm, if you believe that...earsjohn wrote:To be fair to Team Clev, they have tried everything they can to secure the best possible opponent.....
"The main target was American great Bernard Hopkins but after I agreed terms with his promoter Golden Boy, he pulled out. We’ll look to resurrect the fight next year.
IBF world supermiddleweight champion Froch turned down a huge purse to step up a division to take on Cleverly."
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mickey1975
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Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
Well, there are people close to Froch on here. Has he been offered the Froch fight and what were the options and purse?Wake up call wrote:Hmm, if you believe that...earsjohn wrote:To be fair to Team Clev, they have tried everything they can to secure the best possible opponent.....
"The main target was American great Bernard Hopkins but after I agreed terms with his promoter Golden Boy, he pulled out. We’ll look to resurrect the fight next year.
IBF world supermiddleweight champion Froch turned down a huge purse to step up a division to take on Cleverly."
Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
I believe it as much as I believe most of what comes out in Mr Warrens Sun column.Wake up call wrote:Hmm, if you believe that...earsjohn wrote:To be fair to Team Clev, they have tried everything they can to secure the best possible opponent.....
"The main target was American great Bernard Hopkins but after I agreed terms with his promoter Golden Boy, he pulled out. We’ll look to resurrect the fight next year.
IBF world supermiddleweight champion Froch turned down a huge purse to step up a division to take on Cleverly."
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Newport Daz
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Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
I thought he was getting Dennis Simic? Maybe he was considered too dangerous so they went for a bloke that lost to him instead.
As for Froch being offered a "massive" purse to fight Cleverley at 175, or "close" to gettting Hopkins, I have more belief in the existence of Father Christmas, the Tooth Fairy and the Lock Ness Monster. Maybe Gomez can shed some light the "massive" offer.
As for Froch being offered a "massive" purse to fight Cleverley at 175, or "close" to gettting Hopkins, I have more belief in the existence of Father Christmas, the Tooth Fairy and the Lock Ness Monster. Maybe Gomez can shed some light the "massive" offer.
Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
I have asked mate, and also asked about Bellew supposedly turning it down. They are, quite rightly, considering whether to respondmickey1975 wrote:Well, there are people close to Froch on here. Has he been offered the Froch fight and what were the options and purse?Wake up call wrote:Hmm, if you believe that...earsjohn wrote:To be fair to Team Clev, they have tried everything they can to secure the best possible opponent.....
"The main target was American great Bernard Hopkins but after I agreed terms with his promoter Golden Boy, he pulled out. We’ll look to resurrect the fight next year.
IBF world supermiddleweight champion Froch turned down a huge purse to step up a division to take on Cleverly."
Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
Uzelkov beat Simcic.Newport Daz wrote:I thought he was getting Dennis Simic? Maybe he was considered too dangerous so they went for a bloke that lost to him instead.
He is a better opponent for Cleverly than Simcic.
Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
Still a rubbish opponentHorse wrote:Uzelkov beat Simcic.Newport Daz wrote:I thought he was getting Dennis Simic? Maybe he was considered too dangerous so they went for a bloke that lost to him instead.
He is a better opponent for Cleverly than Simcic.
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Hagler2002
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Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
The thing is Cleverly is also an average European who got handed the title and has continued to fight sub standard opposition. Warren is talking out of his hole about Froch and Hopkins there isn't a chance he'd put him against anybody of that calibre.
Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
Froch been offered nothing, and will not afford them one inch of press out of his name either.
They claimed a similar thing when Joe was still fighting. That Froch turned it down.
They claimed a similar thing when Joe was still fighting. That Froch turned it down.
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MightyWarrior
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Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
Or better yet, why not wait just a few more years, then when Hopkins turns 49 3/4, they can make the fight that the whole of Wales has been crying out for, with the added drama of Bernard turning 50 during the fight.earsjohn wrote:To be fair to Team Clev, they have tried everything they can to secure the best possible opponent.....
"The main target was American great Bernard Hopkins but after I agreed terms with his promoter Golden Boy, he pulled out. We’ll look to resurrect the fight next year.
Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
Would Warren really claim that he had offered Froch and Bellew the fight if he hadn't?G0mez wrote:Froch been offered nothing, and will not afford them one inch of press out of his name either.
They claimed a similar thing when Joe was still fighting. That Froch turned it down.
Why wouldn't he offer them an amount that wouldn't be accepted instead?
Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
Horse wrote:Would Warren really claim that he had offered Froch and Bellew the fight if he hadn't?G0mez wrote:Froch been offered nothing, and will not afford them one inch of press out of his name either.
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This is from Bellew's twitterHorse wrote:Would Warren really claim that he had offered Froch and Bellew the fight if he hadn't?G0mez wrote:Froch been offered nothing, and will not afford them one inch of press out of his name either.
They claimed a similar thing when Joe was still fighting. That Froch turned it down.
Why wouldn't he offer them an amount that wouldn't be accepted instead?
"More rubbish about me in the media! For the last time I have never been offered a rematch! If I had I wouldn't be fighting Miranda! #Fact"
Somebody's telling porkies, Horse. I suppose you think its Froch and Bellew?
Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
It wouldn't suprise me if they actually did offer Froch the fight, but only after he'd already signed for the Mack fight (which they knew). Then they could say they'd offered him a "massive" purse, in the knowledge that he couldn't take the fight even if he wanted to.
Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
I don't want to accuse anyone of anything.Dan Dares wrote:This is from Bellew's twitter
"More rubbish about me in the media! For the last time I have never been offered a rematch! If I had I wouldn't be fighting Miranda! #Fact"
Somebody's telling porkies, Horse. I suppose you think its Froch and Bellew?
It just seems a bit stupid to lie and say he offered them a fight, when he could just give them a crap offer instead.
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freddydoesdallas
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Re: Cleverly defends against average East European on Oct 27th
I may be being a bit wet behind the ears here but surely the venue would have to have been booked a fair bit in advance ie before negotiations with an opponent took place. The venue booked wouldn't be suitable for the big purses that were supposedly offered to Hopkins and froch and bellew v clev 2 would sell a better sized venue. Smells a bit fishy to me