Does anybody know real names of old-time sporting writers, who used these pen names?
- "Left Hook" from NY Morning Telegraph from early 1900s.
- "Cross Counter" from NY Press in 1910s.
- "Monte" or "Monty", New York sports writer in 1910s, I don't know what newspaper he wrote for.
- "Ringside", another New York writer in 1910s, and again I don't know the newspaper.
- "Breakaway" or "Break Away" from St. Louis Republic in 1898-1899.
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Left hook could be Joe fraserSenya13 wrote:Does anybody know real names of old-time sporting writers, who used these pen names?
- "Left Hook" from NY Morning Telegraph from early 1900s.
- "Cross Counter" from NY Press in 1910s.
- "Monte" or "Monty", New York sports writer in 1910s, I don't know what newspaper he wrote for.
- "Ringside", another New York writer in 1910s, and again I don't know the newspaper.
- "Breakaway" or "Break Away" from St. Louis Republic in 1898-1899.
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Cmon Gian, quit your smilin' Joe could have been a young journalist.....and then became inspired enough from such writings to move up to being a "doer".......and then like Liston, lied about his age.
This does put Joe WAY in front of the pack of all time greats, IF such time lines are proven. If so, he would have been well over a century old upon his passing this year.
This does put Joe WAY in front of the pack of all time greats, IF such time lines are proven. If so, he would have been well over a century old upon his passing this year.
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"Ringside" appears to be Ringside Regan from New York Evening Mail.
Ok, how about the writer calling himself "Left Jab", from the same newspaper, around the same time (1915-1920)? Supposedly, he was the sporting editor of the Mail in 1916.
Ok, how about the writer calling himself "Left Jab", from the same newspaper, around the same time (1915-1920)? Supposedly, he was the sporting editor of the Mail in 1916.
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Ive always wondered who "Fair Play" was.
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John J. Romanoklompton wrote:Ive always wondered who "Fair Play" was.
I wonder if http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer was him as boxer?
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Since I asked about "Left Jab" and "Left Hook" already, I'll add "Left Cross" in the mix, a sporting writer in "New York Evening Mail" in 1907 or thereabouts. Anybody knows anything about him?
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Looking at Nat Fleischer movements between NY newspapers, before he founded The Ring magazine, "Cross Counter" is probably him. He's writing on boxing in NY Press in 1915 and in NY Sun in 1918. I don't see his writing under his own name in the Sun, but he was said to be their main boxing writer. I'm 90% sure it's him.
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On the other hand, it could be old Charles F. Mathison, if I have the years he worked for NY Press and NY Sun wrong. I thought he quit NY Press around 1912. And the Cross Counter seems to be much more experienced and knowledgable than Fleischer could be at the time.
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Why did they take those names in the first place?
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Using help from another forum, this was Fred Wenck, later the chairman of NYSAC.Senya13 wrote:"Ringside" appears to be Ringside Regan from New York Evening Mail.
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Who knows. NY Press often had in its Sunday edition three write-ups, signed "By Counter Cross", "By Shortstop", "By Sprinter". On boxing, baseball and running, respectively.DaveBoyMorrison wrote:Why did they take those names in the first place?
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Senya13 wrote:Who knows. NY Press often had in its Sunday edition three write-ups, signed "By Counter Cross", "By Shortstop", "By Sprinter". On boxing, baseball and running, respectively.DaveBoyMorrison wrote:Why did they take those names in the first place?
It's quite strange. I will try to look into it. Is it perhaps so one guy can write on a wide range of sports?
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I don't think so. Those two writers (Sprinter and Shortstop) had their own photos (two different men) next to their write-ups. Counter Cross was putting photos of boxers in his articles, but no photo of himself (a-la Bob Edgren or Otto Floto).
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Here's another one.
Somebody was writing Sunday boxing reviews for Chicago Tribune in 1912, signing them "By Knockout". When Walter Eckersall and Ray Pearson wrote on boxing or other sports, they used their own names (their write-ups could be found on the same or other sporting pages in the same Sunday issue, so why would they use real name in one case, or on one Sunday, and then use a pseudonym in another case? I'm guessing this was a different author than them). He wrote for the Tribune from 1911 until 1917.
Somebody was writing Sunday boxing reviews for Chicago Tribune in 1912, signing them "By Knockout". When Walter Eckersall and Ray Pearson wrote on boxing or other sports, they used their own names (their write-ups could be found on the same or other sporting pages in the same Sunday issue, so why would they use real name in one case, or on one Sunday, and then use a pseudonym in another case? I'm guessing this was a different author than them). He wrote for the Tribune from 1911 until 1917.
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Senya13 wrote:Here's another one.
Somebody was writing Sunday boxing reviews for Chicago Tribune in 1912, signing them "By Knockout". When Walter Eckersall and Ray Pearson wrote on boxing or other sports, they used their own names (their write-ups could be found on the same or other sporting pages in the same Sunday issue, so why would they use real name in one case, or on one Sunday, and then use a pseudonym in another case? I'm guessing this was a different author than them). He wrote for the Tribune from 1911 until 1917.
It's like Boxrec forum names.
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Chip, Chicago sporting writer in 1903-1906, again no idea who that was.