Khaosai Galaxy v. Sung-Kil Moon.

[Rover]

Quiroga-Kid Akeem was the fight of the year in 91. If these two had fought, that would have been the fight of the year (and in the same division).
I'd go with Moon; better chin, though I know how Galaxy is revered in the West (only super fly in the HOF).
He didn't fight a lot of the top guys of that era (Watanabe, Roman, Moon, Konadu).

[Datsue]

Quiroga-Kid Akeem was the fight of the year in 91. If these two had fought, that would have been the fight of the year (and in the same division).
I'd go with Moon; better chin, though I know how Galaxy is revered in the West (only super fly in the HOF).
He didn't fight a lot of the top guys of that era (Watanabe, Roman, Moon, Konadu).

Moon has a much better (though less pretty) record, definitely. This would've been an ugly, ugly war. Two guys who deserve a mention on my "Noble & honourable art..." thread, at times.

Also, I've seen Moon & thought "Fvck me, someone's replaced that Korean bloke's feet with two left ones! That's not fair!" But a hard, hard, heavy-handed bastard. This fight would've ruled.

[meade95]

Galaxy's resume is underreated by those who followed those divisions closely back then -

Both are ATG JBWs....but I'd go with Galaxy via TKO (on cuts most likely or via a beating). Galaxy was never ever closed to being stopped in his career, he threw the better staright power shot (left hand) and had the physical strength to move Moon (at his own game) fighting inside.

Great match up but I'd go with Galaxy.

[Rover]

Moon was never stopped.
Galaxy's resume isn't under-rated. All of the other top jr. bantams fought each other (meaning, for instance, that Watanabe fought Roman, Roman fought Laciar, Rojas, Watanabe, Konadu, etc., Laciar fought Rojas and Roman, etc.). Galaxy's best win was probably over Contreras.

[meade95]

Moon was never stopped.
Galaxy's resume isn't under-rated. All of the other top jr. bantams fought each other (meaning, for instance, that Watanabe fought Roman, Roman fought Laciar, Rojas, Watanabe, Konadu, etc., Laciar fought Rojas and Roman, etc.). Galaxy's best win was probably over Contreras.

Wantabe GAVE UP his title instead of fighting Galaxy -

The reality is the other Champions during Galaxy's reign avoided him (more or less) And smartly so.... Galaxy did fight and beat the other long reigning IBF JBW champion during his regin....that was E. Pical - And he beat him on the road in Pical's HOME COUNTRY and HOMETOWN to boot (KO 14th).

He traveld and beat the undefeated / big punching Israel Contreras (24-0-1) in Willemstad, Curacao -

He traveld and beat Chang Ho Choi in Seoul, Korea -

He traveld and beat Kenji Matsumura, in Japan (Twice) -

Galaxy also fought and beat...Rafael Orono 32-2-1 (WBC JBW World Champion....had an accomplished reign as champion)

Also beat the following champions..

Tae-Il Chang 26-2-1 (Won IBF World Title)

Yong Kang Kim 21-2-0 (Won 2 world titles)

David Griman 13-0-0 (Went on to win WBA Fly Title)

Chang Ho Choi 18-2-0 (IBF Fly World Champion)

When I look at Galaxy (and watch tape) the guy faced all types. Bangers, boxers, runners, you name it...and he walked them down and beat them all (mostly by stoppage). He had some of the best body punching you will see in the late 80s/90s...

[meade95]

The other point not often mentioned is Moon did face (and lose) to Khaosai twin brother, Khakor Galaxy (who was the lesser of the two Galaxy brothers). If Khakor was able to beat Moon (be it in a rough fight) I fully suspect Khaosai would have stopped Moon at some point or won a more clear cut decision.

[Rover]

1. Orono was well past-prime by the time he fought Galaxy. His legs were gone in that fight.
2. Most of the champs you cite whom Galaxy beat were flyweight champs.
3. Watanabe decided to unify the titles so there would be an undisputed champ instead of fighting Galaxy. That wasn't an avoidance of Galaxy. Galaxy at that time (84) wasn't nearly as highly thought of as he came to be. Watanabe fought the other top fighter in the division.
4. Pical? The IBF was a relatively new org when he became "champ." Especially in the lighter weights, some of its champs (including Pical) were quite inferior. Pical wasn't in the same league as Watanabe (the undisputed champ), Roman, Moon, Laciar, Konadu, etc.
Have you seen Galaxy v. Payakaroon? Galaxy barely squeaked by in that fight, and Payakaroon wasn't that good. Roman schooled him.
Galaxy never was the "champ" at 115. He won a belt when Watanabe became the undisputed champ by fighting Poonturat. Tae-Il Chang was another mediocre IBF champ. Galaxy's resume is over-rated by many who don't know the era. Had he won all those fights by decision, his resume wouldn't be given nearly the acclaim that it is.

[Rover]

The other point not often mentioned is Moon did face (and lose) to Khaosai twin brother, Khakor Galaxy (who was the lesser of the two Galaxy brothers). If Khakor was able to beat Moon (be it in a rough fight) I fully suspect Khaosai would have stopped Moon at some point or won a more clear cut decision.

Khaokor v. Moon was at bantamweight. That has nothing to do with Moon's ability at super flyweight.

[meade95]

1. Orono was well past-prime by the time he fought Galaxy. His legs were gone in that fight.

2. Most of the champs you cite whom Galaxy beat were flyweight champs.
3. Watanabe decided to unify the titles so there would be an undisputed champ instead of fighting Galaxy. That wasn't an avoidance of Galaxy. Galaxy at that time (84) wasn't nearly as highly thought of as he came to be. Watanabe fought the other top fighter in the division.
4. Pical? The IBF was a relatively new org when he became "champ." Especially in the lighter weights, some of its champs (including Pical) were quite inferior. Pical wasn't in the same league as Watanabe (the undisputed champ), Roman, Moon, Laciar, Konadu, etc.
Have you seen Galaxy v. Payakaroon? Galaxy barely squeaked by in that fight, and Payakaroon wasn't that good. Roman schooled him.
Galaxy never was the "champ" at 115. He won a belt when Watanabe became the undisputed champ by fighting Poonturat. Tae-Il Chang was another mediocre IBF champ. Galaxy's resume is over-rated by many who don't know the era. Had he won all those fights by decision, his resume wouldn't be given nearly the acclaim that it is.

1. Not exactly so, Orono Had won 4 straight fights since losing his title via close Split Dec. And via that route/thinking I could go over Watanbae, Roman (Vs Moon) and all the others and say it wasn't prime Vs prime when they faced so and so. There is some merit to that.....However, What we do know is Galaxy Signed to fight Watanabe and it was Watanbee that decided to go elsewhere....(and then never looked to unify Vs Galaxy down the road either, wonder why?).

2. The notion that Galaxy was not the bigger threat than the 9-1-0 (Payao Poontarat) whom Wantabe gave up his title to fight Vs (instead of defending Vs Galaxy, whom had been #1 for well over a year) is garbage. The Wantabe camp avoided Galaxy on purpose. Everyone knew that is what was happening...

3. Yes, some were Fly Wt Champs moving up, but he faced them because they were not in a postion to avoid facing him (as the other champions at JBW were).

4. E. Pical had been champion for 2 years prior to facing Galaxy (in his two reigns he made 8 or 9 title defenses). ....."IF". THere is no IF. Galaxy won 17 of his 19 defenses by TKO/KO. The notion that if they had been by decision is a weird suggestion.

[meade95]

The other point not often mentioned is Moon did face (and lose) to Khaosai twin brother, Khakor Galaxy (who was the lesser of the two Galaxy brothers). If Khakor was able to beat Moon (be it in a rough fight) I fully suspect Khaosai would have stopped Moon at some point or won a more clear cut decision.

Khaokor v. Moon was at bantamweight. That has nothing to do with Moon's ability at super flyweight.

When we are talking about Moon Vs Khaosai it most certainly is somewhat relavent to the discussion. Considering both Moon and Khaosai were big (big) JBWs. With Khaosai brother Khakor being not on the same level as Khaosai and yet taking all Moon had to dish out and beating him by clear decision. If Khakor could do that, I'm certain Khaosai would do the same, plus likely stopping Moon late.

[Rover]

The other point not often mentioned is Moon did face (and lose) to Khaosai twin brother, Khakor Galaxy (who was the lesser of the two Galaxy brothers). If Khakor was able to beat Moon (be it in a rough fight) I fully suspect Khaosai would have stopped Moon at some point or won a more clear cut decision.

Khaokor v. Moon was at bantamweight. That has nothing to do with Moon's ability at super flyweight.

When we are talking about Moon Vs Khaosai it most certainly is somewhat relavent to the discussion. Considering both Moon and Khaosai were big (big) JBWs. With Khaosai brother Khakor being not on the same level as Khaosai and yet taking all Moon had to dish out and beating him by clear decision. If Khakor could do that, I'm certain Khaosai would do the same, plus likely stopping Moon late.

It's irrelevant because it was in a different division. Khaokor also took all Wilfredo Vazquez had (and beat him).

[Rover]

1. Orono was well past-prime by the time he fought Galaxy. His legs were gone in that fight.

2. Most of the champs you cite whom Galaxy beat were flyweight champs.
3. Watanabe decided to unify the titles so there would be an undisputed champ instead of fighting Galaxy. That wasn't an avoidance of Galaxy. Galaxy at that time (84) wasn't nearly as highly thought of as he came to be. Watanabe fought the other top fighter in the division.
4. Pical? The IBF was a relatively new org when he became "champ." Especially in the lighter weights, some of its champs (including Pical) were quite inferior. Pical wasn't in the same league as Watanabe (the undisputed champ), Roman, Moon, Laciar, Konadu, etc.
Have you seen Galaxy v. Payakaroon? Galaxy barely squeaked by in that fight, and Payakaroon wasn't that good. Roman schooled him.
Galaxy never was the "champ" at 115. He won a belt when Watanabe became the undisputed champ by fighting Poonturat. Tae-Il Chang was another mediocre IBF champ. Galaxy's resume is over-rated by many who don't know the era. Had he won all those fights by decision, his resume wouldn't be given nearly the acclaim that it is.

1. Not exactly so, Orono Had won 4 straight fights since losing his title via close Split Dec. And via that route/thinking I could go over Watanbae, Roman (Vs Moon) and all the others and say it wasn't prime Vs prime when they faced so and so. There is some merit to that.....However, What we do know is Galaxy Signed to fight Watanabe and it was Watanbee that decided to go elsewhere....(and then never looked to unify Vs Galaxy down the road either, wonder why?).

2. The notion that Galaxy was not the bigger threat than the 9-1-0 (Payao Poontarat) whom Wantabe gave up his title to fight Vs (instead of defending Vs Galaxy, whom had been #1 for well over a year) is garbage. The Wantabe camp avoided Galaxy on purpose. Everyone knew that is what was happening...

3. Yes, some were Fly Wt Champs moving up, but he faced them because they were not in a postion to avoid facing him (as the other champions at JBW were).

4. E. Pical had been champion for 2 years prior to facing Galaxy (in his two reigns he made 8 or 9 title defenses). ....."IF". THere is no IF. Galaxy won 17 of his 19 defenses by TKO/KO. The notion that if they had been by decision is a weird suggestion.

1. The "9-1 Poonturat" had accomplished far more than Galaxy when Watanabe elected to fight him. You're focused strictly on numbers.
2. You say that Watanabe didn't "unify" with Galaxy. You again miss the point. Watanabe fought Poonturat precisely to do that.
Watanabe was not avoiding Galaxy. He fought someone far more accomplished.
3. Orono won four fights in a row...against whom? How many fights did Orono win after Galaxy? Answer: Not one, and he fought several times.
4. Pical made 8 or 9 title defenses in his 2 reigns prior to fighting Galaxy? Uh, he made a whopping 2 successful title defenses in those two reigns combined.
5. Galaxy won 16 of his 19 defenses by KO/TKO, not 17. That's relevant because people love the KO, and he's become vastly over-rated because of it. Had he won mostly decisions, I'd be shocked had he gotten the acclaim that he did.

[meade95]

1. Orono was well past-prime by the time he fought Galaxy. His legs were gone in that fight.

2. Most of the champs you cite whom Galaxy beat were flyweight champs.
3. Watanabe decided to unify the titles so there would be an undisputed champ instead of fighting Galaxy. That wasn't an avoidance of Galaxy. Galaxy at that time (84) wasn't nearly as highly thought of as he came to be. Watanabe fought the other top fighter in the division.
4. Pical? The IBF was a relatively new org when he became "champ." Especially in the lighter weights, some of its champs (including Pical) were quite inferior. Pical wasn't in the same league as Watanabe (the undisputed champ), Roman, Moon, Laciar, Konadu, etc.
Have you seen Galaxy v. Payakaroon? Galaxy barely squeaked by in that fight, and Payakaroon wasn't that good. Roman schooled him.
Galaxy never was the "champ" at 115. He won a belt when Watanabe became the undisputed champ by fighting Poonturat. Tae-Il Chang was another mediocre IBF champ. Galaxy's resume is over-rated by many who don't know the era. Had he won all those fights by decision, his resume wouldn't be given nearly the acclaim that it is.

1. Not exactly so, Orono Had won 4 straight fights since losing his title via close Split Dec. And via that route/thinking I could go over Watanbae, Roman (Vs Moon) and all the others and say it wasn't prime Vs prime when they faced so and so. There is some merit to that.....However, What we do know is Galaxy Signed to fight Watanabe and it was Watanbee that decided to go elsewhere....(and then never looked to unify Vs Galaxy down the road either, wonder why?).

2. The notion that Galaxy was not the bigger threat than the 9-1-0 (Payao Poontarat) whom Wantabe gave up his title to fight Vs (instead of defending Vs Galaxy, whom had been #1 for well over a year) is garbage. The Wantabe camp avoided Galaxy on purpose. Everyone knew that is what was happening...

3. Yes, some were Fly Wt Champs moving up, but he faced them because they were not in a postion to avoid facing him (as the other champions at JBW were).

4. E. Pical had been champion for 2 years prior to facing Galaxy (in his two reigns he made 8 or 9 title defenses). ....."IF". THere is no IF. Galaxy won 17 of his 19 defenses by TKO/KO. The notion that if they had been by decision is a weird suggestion.

1. The "9-1 Poonturat" had accomplished far more than Galaxy when Watanabe elected to fight him. You're focused strictly on numbers.
2. You say that Watanabe didn't "unify" with Galaxy. You again miss the point. Watanabe fought Poonturat precisely to do that.
Watanabe was not avoiding Galaxy. He fought someone far more accomplished.
3. Orono won four fights in a row...against whom? How many fights did Orono win after Galaxy? Answer: Not one, and he fought several times.
4. Pical made 8 or 9 title defenses in his 2 reigns prior to fighting Galaxy? Uh, he made a whopping 2 successful title defenses in those two reigns combined.
5. Galaxy won 16 of his 19 defenses by KO/TKO, not 17. That's relevant because people love the KO, and he's become vastly over-rated because of it. Had he won mostly decisions, I'd be shocked had he gotten the acclaim that he did.

1. Poonturat had accomplished more than Galaxy! He had really two meaningful wins at 10-1-0, one was an upset SD over (who you claim was terribly faded) Orono. And the other Vs (if you want to play this game) a very washed up G. Espadas...... Reality is Wantabee was heavily favored to beat Poonturat (after giving up his belt to avoid fighting Galaxy). Galaxy was his #1 contender for over a year and was avoided.

2. No, Watabee was stripped of his belt (prior to his fight with Poonturat). The only real unification fight was with Galaxy (WBA) and Pical (IBF). Pical title was not on the line, but he was the belt holder on fight night (and Galaxy won).

3. Galaxy shortened lots of careers with the beatings he put on people. Galaxy beatdown and stopped Orono like he had never been in his carreer prior (and within 5 rounds). And lets be clear Orono was 27 years old at the time.....

4. E. Pical won the following fights with the IBF Title ont he line - Ju-Do Chun (won it), Wayne Mulholland (Def), Cesar Polanco (recaptured it) ,Tae-Il Chang (Def, after being briefly stripped for KO loss to Galaxy),Raul Ernesto Diaz (Def), Ki-Chang Kim (def), Mike Phelps (def).

5. Breaking down and stopping your opponent is more impressive than winning by the opinions of sometimes flawed judges...

And lastly, again, Khaosai less powerful, lesser brother beat Moon.....If Khakor could do that, Khaoasi would likely fare very well...... Reality is Galaxy body punching alone would cause Moon problems (who liked to swing high and leave his body exposed). Galaxy's staright left would be Moon's doom....and Galaxy is one of the few JBWs in history who was physically stronger than Moon to boot....

Moon more or less style was was made to order for Galaxy. A fighter that is willing to wade into and swap bombs.....Galaxy would take that fight....he'd take that fight and win in 99 out of a 100 times. Moon's (and I'm a huge Sung Kil Moon fan by the way) advantages would likely be handspeed and volume punching.....But he threw wide shots much too often and Galaxy would make him pay. Galaxy's bodyshots would also be a huge difference.

[Counter-puncher]

a Moon thread and no mention of headbutting so far, interesting.

[Datsue]

a Moon thread and no mention of headbutting so far, interesting.

Ooh, ooh, shall we have a "Best "accidental" head-butter" thread? I mean, the bloody one about elbowing was such a roaring success...

[Counter-puncher]

I reckon there would be at least 3 or 4 Koreans in any serious top 10. the guy Banke fought in Korea, Lee, he's top 5 easily. Injin Chi wasn't shy with the ol' loaf, either.

[Datsue]

I reckon there would be at least 3 or 4 Koreans in any serious top 10. the guy Banke fought in Korea, Lee, he's top 5 easily. Injin Chi wasn't shy with the ol' loaf, either.

Yeah, I know, but people will just say "Oldyfield" & then no-one else will post, no matter how many obscure Orientals we shoe-horn in.

In-Jin Chi! Yeah, flagrant with the bonce, wasn't he? Also was a good candidate for the old "elbows" thread as well. Watched the Morales one the other night, he catches Erik a corker with the follow-through & Morales just has this indignant look on his face like "Did you see that? I cannot believe you just did that!"

[Counter-puncher]

even Korean amateurs tend to be tasty with their heads.

[Rover]

1. Not exactly so, Orono Had won 4 straight fights since losing his title via close Split Dec. And via that route/thinking I could go over Watanbae, Roman (Vs Moon) and all the others and say it wasn't prime Vs prime when they faced so and so. There is some merit to that.....However, What we do know is Galaxy Signed to fight Watanabe and it was Watanbee that decided to go elsewhere....(and then never looked to unify Vs Galaxy down the road either, wonder why?).

2. The notion that Galaxy was not the bigger threat than the 9-1-0 (Payao Poontarat) whom Wantabe gave up his title to fight Vs (instead of defending Vs Galaxy, whom had been #1 for well over a year) is garbage. The Wantabe camp avoided Galaxy on purpose. Everyone knew that is what was happening...

3. Yes, some were Fly Wt Champs moving up, but he faced them because they were not in a postion to avoid facing him (as the other champions at JBW were).

4. E. Pical had been champion for 2 years prior to facing Galaxy (in his two reigns he made 8 or 9 title defenses). ....."IF". THere is no IF. Galaxy won 17 of his 19 defenses by TKO/KO. The notion that if they had been by decision is a weird suggestion.[/quote]
1. The "9-1 Poonturat" had accomplished far more than Galaxy when Watanabe elected to fight him. You're focused strictly on numbers.
2. You say that Watanabe didn't "unify" with Galaxy. You again miss the point. Watanabe fought Poonturat precisely to do that.
Watanabe was not avoiding Galaxy. He fought someone far more accomplished.
3. Orono won four fights in a row...against whom? How many fights did Orono win after Galaxy? Answer: Not one, and he fought several times.
4. Pical made 8 or 9 title defenses in his 2 reigns prior to fighting Galaxy? Uh, he made a whopping 2 successful title defenses in those two reigns combined.
5. Galaxy won 16 of his 19 defenses by KO/TKO, not 17. That's relevant because people love the KO, and he's become vastly over-rated because of it. Had he won mostly decisions, I'd be shocked had he gotten the acclaim that he did.[/quote]

1. Poonturat had accomplished more than Galaxy! He had really two meaningful wins at 10-1-0, one was an upset SD over (who you claim was terribly faded) Orono. And the other Vs (if you want to play this game) a very washed up G. Espadas...... Reality is Wantabee was heavily favored to beat Poonturat (after giving up his belt to avoid fighting Galaxy). Galaxy was his #1 contender for over a year and was avoided.

2. No, Watabee was stripped of his belt (prior to his fight with Poonturat). The only real unification fight was with Galaxy (WBA) and Pical (IBF). Pical title was not on the line, but he was the belt holder on fight night (and Galaxy won).

3. Galaxy shortened lots of careers with the beatings he put on people. Galaxy beatdown and stopped Orono like he had never been in his carreer prior (and within 5 rounds). And lets be clear Orono was 27 years old at the time.....

4. E. Pical won the following fights with the IBF Title ont he line - Ju-Do Chun (won it), Wayne Mulholland (Def), Cesar Polanco (recaptured it) ,Tae-Il Chang (Def, after being briefly stripped for KO loss to Galaxy),Raul Ernesto Diaz (Def), Ki-Chang Kim (def), Mike Phelps (def).

5. Breaking down and stopping your opponent is more impressive than winning by the opinions of sometimes flawed judges...

And lastly, again, Khaosai less powerful, lesser brother beat Moon.....If Khakor could do that, Khaoasi would likely fare very well...... Reality is Galaxy body punching alone would cause Moon problems (who liked to swing high and leave his body exposed). Galaxy's staright left would be Moon's doom....and Galaxy is one of the few JBWs in history who was physically stronger than Moon to boot....

Moon more or less style was was made to order for Galaxy. A fighter that is willing to wade into and swap bombs.....Galaxy would take that fight....he'd take that fight and win in 99 out of a 100 times. Moon's (and I'm a huge Sung Kil Moon fan by the way) advantages would likely be handspeed and volume punching.....But he threw wide shots much too often and Galaxy would make him pay. Galaxy's bodyshots would also be a huge difference.[/quote]

1. Get your timeline straight when disputing my arguments. I said Orono was badly faded when he fought Galaxy, not when he fought Poonturat. And yes, that accomplishment by Poonturat was better than anything Galaxy had done. Quality, not quantity. As for the "Galaxy was avoided" line, saying it over and over again doesn't make it any less false. Regarding the "mandatory" point, Galaxy wasn't the other champ. Poonturat was. Watanabe unified the title (though the WBA stripped him for having dared to do that). Watanabe fought and beat a more deserving fighter than GGalaxy. Whether he was "heavily favored" (source?) is irrelevant to my point.
2. This point is nonsense. Pical's title wasn't on the line. End of story. It wasn't a unification. Had it been, his title would've been on the line. Learn some logic. As for Watanabe v. Poonturat, again, this is pretty simple. The WBA champ signed to fight the WBC champ to unify and have an undisputed champ. Then, the WBA stripped Watanabe for this. That doesn't change the fact that the two champs of the division signed to fight, and an undisputed champ was crowned. The WBA's actions merely indicate (as if we needed another example) what a joke it was/is. Jiro Watanabe became the lineal super fly champ when he beat Poonturat because they were the two champs when they agreed to fight. Galaxy wasn't.
3. Orono was 27; so what? Again, you're focusing on numbers strictly. Question: When was Meldrick Taylor finished as a fighter? Answer: At age 26 when he was destroyed by Espana. Orono's legs were shot in that fight. Saad was 27 when Qawi beat the daylights out of him, too. Is that really the best you have?
4. First off, the Chang fight was not a defense. Actually, it was--for Chang, that is. He'd won the vacant title after Pical was stripped. Neither was the Polanco victory. Neither was the Chun won. You used the word defenses (8 or 9), and you were referring to his "two reigns." That's how I know you were referring to pre-Galaxy, as he'd had two reigns as the IBF beltholder prior to Galaxy. But, logic time again: You can't "defend" a title once you've been stripped of it!
This is getting hilarious.

5. No, decisions (like, say, Pep, Locche, etc.) are just as impressive. The public loves KO's, and that's why Galaxy is so over-rated.
As for having brought up the Khaokor Galaxy fight, this mythical match was at superfly. It says a lot when you have to go outside the super flyweight division to attempt to evaluate this matchup. Khaokor-Moon (both fights) were in another weight division and are irrelevant here. It would be just as idiotic for me to bring up Galaxy's loss to Saksuree (which occurred at bantamweight).
Galaxy and Moon were champs from 90-91 before Galaxy retired. That's when this fight could've and should've happened.
As for advantages/disadvantages, Moon had a superior chin. Galaxy was down and hurt several times in his career by fighters who weren't exactly known as huge punchers. Galaxy was also hurt (though not down) v. Pical. (Examples are Cobra Ari Blanca, Armando Castro, and Alberto Castro.)

[orbtastic]

I know many bands have written songs about boxers, or immortalised them in lyrics, but has anyone other than Moon actually had a band named after them?

[Rover]

I know many bands have written songs about boxers, or immortalised them in lyrics, but has anyone other than Moon actually had a band named after them?

Not that I knof of. Was that an American band?

[meade95]

Too funny. So you want to suggest when Wantabee fought Poontruat it WAS a unification fight (When Wantabee was no longer champion and had been stripped prior to the fight for failing to fight his #1 contender Galaxy for over a year).....But when Galaxy (current WBA champion) fought Pical (current IBF) Champion that wasn't two champions fighting (unification) because IBF title wasn't on the line. Pical was not stripped for fighting Galaxy, he was briefly stripped because he LOST to Galaxy. Then was given an immediate match to win his title back (Vs another #1 contender IBF opponent).

ANd yes trying to compare Galaxy Vs Saksuree (in only his 5 or 6th fight) is the same as comparing Khakor Vs Moon when both men were entering their prime years. Come on, at least being willing to be intellectually honest here for a minute.

Reality is, that Khakor was able to handle Moon's best and beat him clearly, (when Khakor was a whole level below Khaosai) it does have some merit within this dicussion. Especially considering both Khaosai and Moon were very big JBWs and by fight time with weight they cut they routinely came in above 122 (each). So the notion that you somehow think them fighting at 115 or 118 would have made a huge difference is silly.

Style wise also, Moon simply was made to order for Galaxy. Galaxy was by far the better body puncher (one of the best body punchers all time for smaller weight guys). Galaxy also threw the straigher shots, his straight left would have caught Moon routinely as Moon led stright ahead and threw wide shots...

And Ok. So Orono was solid big win for Poontruat and within year and a half went to "badly faded" Vs Galaxy. Ok. Got it.

And Pical was IBF champion both BEFORE he fought Galaxy and AFTER his lost to Galaxy....His reigns as champion were around his loss to Galaxy...

[Datsue]

I know many bands have written songs about boxers, or immortalised them in lyrics, but has anyone other than Moon actually had a band named after them?

Not that I knof of. Was that an American band?

Sorry to butt in: yes, Sun [sic] Kil Moon are Mark Koszelek's (former singer with 80s Schmindie band Red House Painters) band. A bit twee even for my tastes, but they did record one amazing psych-rock sub-Crazyhorse mental feedback wig-out. & it's called "Salvador Sanchez", which is kinda cool. Name-checks Sanchez, Duk-Koo Kim, Pancho Villa & Benny Kid Paret.

[Rover]

1. Regarding Pical/Galaxy and Watanabe/Poonturat, I'm holding you to your standard. Pical/Galaxy was for the WBA title only. When Pical stripped is irrelevant. Watanabe/Poonturat was for the WBC title only. Watanabe was stripped of his WBA title because he had the nerve to unify with the WBC champ.
Hmmm...Funny that Galaxy wasn't stripped of his WBA title when he fought Pical. Could it maybe be that only Galaxy's title was on the line? Sanctioning orgs then and now don't like unifications.
2 . Provide sources for your fight night weight claims for Galaxy and Moon. Official ones, that is; not HBO bathroom scales.
We're talking about a super fly fight, not a bantam fight. You brought up a fight in another division in which this matchup wouldn't take place.
As for Pical and defenses, you claimed that he'd made 8 or 9 in two reigns. That's false (I assume you were talking about his pre-Galaxy reigns). He made 2 successful defenses.
As for Pical-Chang, he didn't win it from a #1 contender (Pical, that is) after Galaxy beat him. Chang was the champion; he'd won the vacant title. That was not a "def" as you characterized it.
And as forr Saksuree, mentioning either loss is silly because they weren't in the bantamweight division. It should also be noted that Moon beat Galaxy in the first fight and suffered heatstroke in the rematch, but that's irrelevant to my argument, which is that bantamweight fights are irrelevant when discussing a super flyweight matchup.

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I know many bands have written songs about boxers, or immortalised them in lyrics, but has anyone other than Moon actually had a band named after them?

Not that I knof of. Was that an American band?

Sorry to butt in: yes, Sun [sic] Kil Moon are Mark Koszelek's (former singer with 80s Schmindie band Red House Painters) band. A bit twee even for my tastes, but they did record one amazing psych-rock sub-Crazyhorse mental feedback wig-out. & it's called "Salvador Sanchez", which is kinda cool. Name-checks Sanchez, Duk-Koo Kim, Pancho Villa & Benny Kid Paret.

Ole pal, I'd love if you'd butt in on the discussion I'm having about Galaxy, Watanabe, Pical (LOL!) and Moon.