Why don't they want it ?safeerah wrote:We have tried for the fight twice now, but they don't want it and I know why, but I do like him has a fighter, skillful, entertaining and good for the sport, not the finished article yet though.los2 wrote:how about erick v nasser al harbi?
ERICK OCHIENG Good Boxer Grt Character but who next?
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Nasser would stop Erick Ochieng in the later rounds, after out boxing him, but would be a quality fight and that's why they would not take it.maley1984 wrote:saf and mcato how do u think the fight with nasser and erick would go. id defo like to see the 2 lads get it on![]()
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Thought that's what you might say, just wanted to confirm it, I agree it would be a quality fight if it happens, I noticed Jamie cox was 4th in the division, that's quite high considering his inactivity, would you fight him next ?safeerah wrote:Nasser would stop Erick Ochieng in the later rounds, after out boxing him, but would be a quality fight and that's why they would not take it.maley1984 wrote:saf and mcato how do u think the fight with nasser and erick would go. id defo like to see the 2 lads get it on![]()
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Onwards and upward to a nice guy Erick Ochieng!safeerah wrote:Nasser would stop Erick Ochieng in the later rounds, after out boxing him, but would be a quality fight and that's why they would not take it.maley1984 wrote:saf and mcato how do u think the fight with nasser and erick would go. id defo like to see the 2 lads get it on![]()
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I will always watch him, my type of fighter, I hope they don't push him to fast, because he can still get better.mcato wrote:Onwards and upward to a nice guy Erick Ochieng!safeerah wrote:Nasser would stop Erick Ochieng in the later rounds, after out boxing him, but would be a quality fight and that's why they would not take it.maley1984 wrote:saf and mcato how do u think the fight with nasser and erick would go. id defo like to see the 2 lads get it on![]()
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Jamie Cox is back now, his got to be worth a spot in the top 4, remember he was once thought of as the fighter to beat Kel Brook, Nasser has sparred many times with Jamie and even stayed at his house when sparring with him in Swindon, they are good friends and respect each other as fighters, it's difficult to fight friends, but with good fighters eventually they share the same plains.jessi wrote:Thought that's what you might say, just wanted to confirm it, I agree it would be a quality fight if it happens, I noticed Jamie cox was 4th in the division, that's quite high considering his inactivity, would you fight him next ?safeerah wrote:Nasser would stop Erick Ochieng in the later rounds, after out boxing him, but would be a quality fight and that's why they would not take it.maley1984 wrote:saf and mcato how do u think the fight with nasser and erick would go. id defo like to see the 2 lads get it on![]()
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Yes I do remember talk of cox fighting brook, that was a couple of years ago and although Jamie has had his problems the fight was never close to happening, Jamie was a great amateur to watch, he use to try to punch holes in people, I'm still confident he can succeed as a pro if he wants it enough !
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Yes Jessi, your right, Jamie wanted it, but he was a big welter and had to move up to light middle, where he punches lot harder, I think the fact that Warren managed both of them was part of the reason it never happened as well, would have been a great fight.jessi wrote:Yes I do remember talk of cox fighting brook, that was a couple of years ago and although Jamie has had his problems the fight was never close to happening, Jamie was a great amateur to watch, he use to try to punch holes in people, I'm still confident he can succeed as a pro if he wants it enough !
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Safeerah wow your mouth is just full of utter garbage.. He got beat by lee noble alot of people say do they? Well one judge had him winning all 10 round and another had him winning 9 off the 10 so that makes sense.. As for not fighting the best in the division he schooled a lad everyone including sky was talking upto be a massive star to win the belt that's the thing with some of you idiots on here your up a boxers arse 1 minute they have a poor performance or lose and they should never of laced the gloves on it's embarrassing like your comment!
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Guys PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can we stick to the title of the thread. Its not always Saf's fault but someone always mentions him and the whole thread gets ruined discussing everything else apart from the original thread. Eddie Hearn twittered Brian Rose today calling him out for Erick Ochieng in LION VS EAGLE!
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Wot are you saying is Cox ready? Hasn't he got any ties to Sai with the board?Talkischeap wrote::) ye didn't think we'd get the call Brian Lawrence is no mug.mcato wrote:Guys PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can we stick to the title of the thread. Its not always Saf's fault but someone always mentions him and the whole thread gets ruined discussing everything else apart from the original thread. Eddie Hearn twittered Brian Rose today calling him out for Erick Ochieng in LION VS EAGLE!
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And you need to wash your mouth out, so full of anger and stupid to boot, Rose should not have fought Noble in the first place for the English title, firstly Max Maxwell should have fought for the English title and fighting a journeyman for a title is bull shit, I gave him credit for beating Prince Arron, you must read the positive comments as well, instead of being attracted to negative comments like a mouth to a flame, Now tell me do you believe Rose is the best Light middle in Britain ? Think about it first, instead of rushing in without thinking, like a Bull in a china shop.Adam1991 wrote:Safeerah wow your mouth is just full of utter garbage.. He got beat by lee noble alot of people say do they? Well one judge had him winning all 10 round and another had him winning 9 off the 10 so that makes sense.. As for not fighting the best in the division he schooled a lad everyone including sky was talking upto be a massive star to win the belt that's the thing with some of you idiots on here your up a boxers arse 1 minute they have a poor performance or lose and they should never of laced the gloves on it's embarrassing like your comment!
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Exactly, and Rose was given the title, when he should have gone to the back of the list, after the Maxwell defeat.Talkischeap wrote:Boxing news had Lee Noble winning the fight that is a factAdam1991 wrote:Safeerah wow your mouth is just full of utter garbage.. He got beat by lee noble alot of people say do they? Well one judge had him winning all 10 round and another had him winning 9 off the 10 so that makes sense.. As for not fighting the best in the division he schooled a lad everyone including sky was talking upto be a massive star to win the belt that's the thing with some of you idiots on here your up a boxers arse 1 minute they have a poor performance or lose and they should never of laced the gloves on it's embarrassing like your comment!
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Not my fault, I was sticking to the subject and Rose is linked to Ochieng, but some people get all nasty for nothing, then get upset when answered back. fights are about styles and Ochieng has the style to beat Rose, as long as he does not fight in straight lines, because Rose is very good working off the jab, hope the fight comes off.mcato wrote:Guys PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can we stick to the title of the thread. Its not always Saf's fault but someone always mentions him and the whole thread gets ruined discussing everything else apart from the original thread. Eddie Hearn twittered Brian Rose today calling him out for Erick Ochieng in LION VS EAGLE!
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I think Ochieng has a nice style to beat Rose.
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I think he has the makings of a nice style to beat Rose but I'm not sure if he is there just yet.Counter-puncher wrote:I think Ochieng has a nice style to beat Rose.
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I've never been that convinced by Rose, don't know why
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Well said mate.safeerah wrote:There is no way he is going to Ghana, none at all, I know promoters in Ghana, no one will be able to finance it, most shows cost between 3 and 7 thousand pounds to put on, complete shows and they struggle with them, in fact without sponsors they have no shows at all, tickets sales and tv bring very little and Jamie cox's purse would be around 15,000 pounds alone, trust me it can't happen, winning purse bids and carrying the fights out are two different things, besides Eddie Hearn wants a commonwealth and British title shot for Ochieng and what a big promoter wants, he usually gets, Ochieng was calling out Cox and Rose, why would he do that, if it was unlikely, so far Ochieng has defended his title against a journeyman in Lowe, who gave him trouble in the later rounds and Toms who was stopped in the first round against a none puncher and the very basic Toms gave Ochieng real problems last night before the body shots got to him, amazing how Rose was avoiding serious challengers when English champion and not fighting Ochieng to get a shot at the British title, now Ochieng is doing the same. The whole national picture in this country is a joke, find the easiest way to win a title then get easy defenses until you get to fight for a bigger title, then repeat the process or even better don't defend your title just sit on it till you get a better one. No wonder nobody wants to watch boxing anymore.mcato wrote:I think Cox has more issues than just his hand. He still has to travel to Ghana if he wants to keep that belt and the way the Board is with the Warren fighters at the moment they are not letting that one go. Interesting time however Sky are being very good towards Erick and people are starting to get to know him. Godd time ahead for Team Ochieng
Was a travesty Nasser (or even Ball to be fair) weren't considered for English title defences by Ochieng's team.
But neither have Flash Eddie behind them and both imo would give Ochieng a lot harder fight than he's had so far so wasn't going to happen.
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saturday_kid wrote:Well said mate.safeerah wrote:There is no way he is going to Ghana, none at all, I know promoters in Ghana, no one will be able to finance it, most shows cost between 3 and 7 thousand pounds to put on, complete shows and they struggle with them, in fact without sponsors they have no shows at all, tickets sales and tv bring very little and Jamie cox's purse would be around 15,000 pounds alone, trust me it can't happen, winning purse bids and carrying the fights out are two different things, besides Eddie Hearn wants a commonwealth and British title shot for Ochieng and what a big promoter wants, he usually gets, Ochieng was calling out Cox and Rose, why would he do that, if it was unlikely, so far Ochieng has defended his title against a journeyman in Lowe, who gave him trouble in the later rounds and Toms who was stopped in the first round against a none puncher and the very basic Toms gave Ochieng real problems last night before the body shots got to him, amazing how Rose was avoiding serious challengers when English champion and not fighting Ochieng to get a shot at the British title, now Ochieng is doing the same. The whole national picture in this country is a joke, find the easiest way to win a title then get easy defenses until you get to fight for a bigger title, then repeat the process or even better don't defend your title just sit on it till you get a better one. No wonder nobody wants to watch boxing anymore.mcato wrote:I think Cox has more issues than just his hand. He still has to travel to Ghana if he wants to keep that belt and the way the Board is with the Warren fighters at the moment they are not letting that one go. Interesting time however Sky are being very good towards Erick and people are starting to get to know him. Godd time ahead for Team Ochieng
Was a travesty Nasser (or even Ball to be fair) weren't considered for English title defences by Ochieng's team.
But neither have Flash Eddie behind them and both imo would give Ochieng a lot harder fight than he's had so far so wasn't going to happen.
completely agree
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Too true Saturday Kid, I bumped into Jamie Ball at Nasser's fight last saturday, we had a chat, he is still looking to get a title shot and he congratulated me on Nasser's performance in Italy, nice lad, we also shared changing rooms with Shaun Cooper and his team, great guy and a nice team, Jamie is a tough lad and he stopped Lowe with a body shot for the midlands area title, so yes, he deserves a shot at a title, he took the fight with Nasser, when others would not.saturday_kid wrote:Well said mate.safeerah wrote:There is no way he is going to Ghana, none at all, I know promoters in Ghana, no one will be able to finance it, most shows cost between 3 and 7 thousand pounds to put on, complete shows and they struggle with them, in fact without sponsors they have no shows at all, tickets sales and tv bring very little and Jamie cox's purse would be around 15,000 pounds alone, trust me it can't happen, winning purse bids and carrying the fights out are two different things, besides Eddie Hearn wants a commonwealth and British title shot for Ochieng and what a big promoter wants, he usually gets, Ochieng was calling out Cox and Rose, why would he do that, if it was unlikely, so far Ochieng has defended his title against a journeyman in Lowe, who gave him trouble in the later rounds and Toms who was stopped in the first round against a none puncher and the very basic Toms gave Ochieng real problems last night before the body shots got to him, amazing how Rose was avoiding serious challengers when English champion and not fighting Ochieng to get a shot at the British title, now Ochieng is doing the same. The whole national picture in this country is a joke, find the easiest way to win a title then get easy defenses until you get to fight for a bigger title, then repeat the process or even better don't defend your title just sit on it till you get a better one. No wonder nobody wants to watch boxing anymore.mcato wrote:I think Cox has more issues than just his hand. He still has to travel to Ghana if he wants to keep that belt and the way the Board is with the Warren fighters at the moment they are not letting that one go. Interesting time however Sky are being very good towards Erick and people are starting to get to know him. Godd time ahead for Team Ochieng
Was a travesty Nasser (or even Ball to be fair) weren't considered for English title defences by Ochieng's team.
But neither have Flash Eddie behind them and both imo would give Ochieng a lot harder fight than he's had so far so wasn't going to happen.
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Jamie Ball stopped someone? crikey, he's come on a bit since I saw him.
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yeah he did and that kid got a english title shot b4 the likes of jamie and nasser how does that work check the records lowe should hav never got that shot (he only got it cause the show was in nottingham)Counter-puncher wrote:Jamie Ball stopped someone? crikey, he's come on a bit since I saw him.
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Counter-puncher wrote:I've never been that convinced by Rose, don't know why
That's what I have always thought, when he is on top he looks good, but when things start to go against him he looks delicate, though he has improved a lot, something is not quite right, for a British champion that is worrying, Webb is the same as well, so can see Rose winning that one, both of them were dropped by Max Maxwell, both have been knocked out, both have been able call themselves british champions, no way they are the best 2 in the division.
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ah, right, I remember that now, that was the one on the froch - Bute undercard that I couldn't be bothered to drive up to Nottingham in time for. sad, I normally try and do all the undercard fights but that night's did nothing for me.maley1984 wrote:yeah he did and that kid got a english title shot b4 the likes of jamie and nasser how does that work check the records lowe should hav never got that shot (he only got it cause the show was in nottingham)Counter-puncher wrote:Jamie Ball stopped someone? crikey, he's come on a bit since I saw him.
Naj, I agree something about Rose and Webb strikes me as quite similar.
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nasser or erick should fight matthew hall he would fight them in a heartbeat an i don't wanna hear from safeerah saying we offered him the fight or got offered the fight an he or his team didn't want it like he seems to do with everybody got hall would fight your boy anytime