Who should Geale fight next?

[Craig14]

Maybe the yid kid will not be happy until Macklin is beaten by all title holders.

I take it you never got round to watching the Macklin/Sturm fight? Watch it, It's a shocking home town decision.

[Brute]

Geale beat Sturm in the same home town.

[Craig14]

What has that got to do with the shocking decision that Macklin got? If anything it probably helped him.

[v8mach1]

Geale should go for Martinez all the way,,,,,, Geale not even getting a mention else where BUT we all know what he can do, problem is low profile + A grade fighter = less $$$ times that by high risk of damage to their product and future $$$$$ means Geale going to stuffed around,,, maybe go and dust up JCC jnr in USA to get some exposure???

[Brute]

What has that got to do with the shocking decision that Macklin got? If anything it probably helped him.

If Geale could get the decision in Germany, why couldn't Macklin? Since then Macklin has been stopped by Martinez, so what is the point of Geale fighting him?

[buster007]

geale should just keep name dropping, mention floyd, ward and the klits too can't hurt, lol.

just needs to keep his name up in the news and it will help get good paydays.

[JSA]

No doubt the fallout of Chavez drug test(?) + martinez injury has put a spanner in the works. And of course the alphabet boys will potentially start stripping ad hoc as they see fit. Will be very interesting to see ,once the dust settles, who Geale goes up against.

[Brute]

geale should just keep name dropping, mention floyd, ward and the klits too can't hurt, lol.

just needs to keep his name up in the news and it will help get good paydays.

When did Geale (not his promoter) say anything about fighting Mayweather?

[Craig14]

What has that got to do with the shocking decision that Macklin got? If anything it probably helped him.

If Geale could get the decision in Germany, why couldn't Macklin? Since then Macklin has been stopped by Martinez, so what is the point of Geale fighting him?

Corruption works in different ways, I had Macklin winning by 3 against Sturm and Geale winning by one. You really should watch Macklin fight before dismissing him. As for Martinez as I said he would hammer Geale, it was close when Macklin fought Martinez but you could always see Martinez had that extra power. I like the way Geale fights, plenty of heart. It would be a war with Macklin.

[buster007]

[quote="Brute"][quote="buster007"]geale should just keep name dropping, mention floyd, ward and the klits too can't hurt, lol.

just needs to keep his name up in the news and it will help get good paydays.[/quote]

When did Geale (not his promoter) say anything about fighting Mayweather?[/quote]
i don't know, when did he?

[Hounddawg]

Why does Macklin need to be mentioned with Geale??????

I personally think Macklin needs a very credible win first.... washed up Alcine and Asikainen are his only notable wins and were both long in the tooth when he's fought them. When ever at the top level he's fallen short. Convincing victory over Alcine, fighting a bloke who's won 1 out of his last 3 doesn't keep tounges wagging.

Geale has a pretty decent resume now, in fact the 2nd best in the division atm,he should keep building on this with defences of his belts until Sergio is back and fit, then step up to him.

Let Golovkin get at least 2 more decent victories, before he earns the right, his best win was Proska, and we never really got to see where he was going, as GGG smashed and probably crippled his career. I really think this is going to be the biggest test for Geale.

Don't get me wrong, Macklin would look nice on the record of Geale, however in years to come it will be worth nothing and look like a easy defence to those learning the sport.

[Kingkam]

quote="Hounddawg"]I really wanted Alcine for Geale, Alcine is a lemon, an easy mark
Rubbish like that is exactly what is wrong with boxing.is that really what you want to see a one sided fight?a champion vs a washed up lemon,an easy mark?but a decent matchup such as golovkin has to win a couple of fights to earn the right to fight geale..wake up to yourself,I bet you think mundine vs wood rematch would be a cracka of a fight too.

[Craig14]

I think Darren Barker would beat Daniel Geale as well, not trying to wind people up but Geales strong but limited he wouldn't be top 2 in Britain. Honestly watch how he fights, Geale's a decent scrapper who gives as good as he gets but let's face it if he did the hard way through the British Middles wouldn't be a world champ now. Just my opinion.

[crusader]

I think Darren Barker would beat Daniel Geale as well, not trying to wind people up but Geales strong but limited he wouldn't be top 2 in Britain. Honestly watch how he fights, Geale's a decent scrapper who gives as good as he gets but let's face it if he did the hard way through the British Middles wouldn't be a world champ now. Just my opinion.

The elite middleweights in Britain are Murray, Macklin, and Barker. Each of them are good fighters, but I don't think they would form an insuperable gamut for Geale.

Neither Barker nor Murray have notable wins; the former's best performance was a KO defeat in which he won only a few rounds, while the latter’s best performance was a fairly rendered draw against Sturm, whom Geale defeated without controversy. Shortly before those fights, Barker struggled with the journeyman Affif Belghecham and was pushed close on points by Spada, while Murray was dropped by Nick Blackwell, an 8 fight domestic-level novice, aged 20. If Geale—a unified world champion who won his titles on the road against top opponents—is limited, how limited is a fighter who scraped by Belghecham? How limited is a fighter who was dropped by Blackwell? It's been years since Geale struggled at levels that low. Moreover, Barker is plagued by injuries and he will have been inactive for over a year when he fights next; this combination of inactivity and injury rarely benefits a fighter—negative outcomes are much more likely in these cases.

Macklin is clearly more proven than Murray and Barker, and I believe that he is the best of the Brits. However, he still has fewer notable wins than Geale does, and overall little differentiates their abilities. Both Geale and Macklin have a high work rate, average speed, and they both punch in combination well. Macklin hits harder, but Geale has shown slightly better stamina (Macklin faded late in multiple fights) and doesn't mark up as easily. Notwithstanding the divergent results, I thought that Macklin and Geale performed similarly well against Sturm, reflecting how evenly matched they are.

I favor Geale over Murray and Barker, but assign roughly 50/50 odds to a Macklin bout. Those odds are one reason it may be unwise for Geale to fight Macklin; great risk without great reward. Geale holds great leverage, as he is a unified champion who is considered very beatable; this gives him a realistic chance of landing bouts that are much more lucrative than those involving British opponents.

[crusader]

Why does Macklin need to be mentioned with Geale??????

I personally think Macklin needs a very credible win first.... washed up Alcine and Asikainen are his only notable wins and were both long in the tooth when he's fought them. When ever at the top level he's fallen short. Convincing victory over Alcine, fighting a bloke who's won 1 out of his last 3 doesn't keep tounges wagging.

Geale has a pretty decent resume now, in fact the 2nd best in the division atm,he should keep building on this with defences of his belts until Sergio is back and fit, then step up to him.

Let Golovkin get at least 2 more decent victories, before he earns the right, his best win was Proska, and we never really got to see where he was going, as GGG smashed and probably crippled his career. I really think this is going to be the biggest test for Geale.

Don't get me wrong, Macklin would look nice on the record of Geale, however in years to come it will be worth nothing and look like a easy defence to those learning the sport.

Macklin performed no worse against Sturm than Geale did, and he was also very impressive against Martinez and Alcine. This places him near the top 5 of the division, and renders him a credible challenger in my opinion. I also believe that Golovkin, while not accomplished as Geale, would be a deserving challenger; he's destroyed nearly all of his opponents and no more than two fighters can be unarguably ranked ahead of him at 160. If Golovkin and Macklin don't merit the fight based on their performances, who does? Only Martinez? I don't believe that Geale has accomplished enough to put himself on such a pedestal.

However, I do agree that Geale should focus on landing a fight with Martinez, or perhaps even Chavez or Sturm, who are likely among the most lucrative options available. Given the leverage that Geale has, it makes little sense to look outside the biggest names in the division, except for tune-ups or mandatories; this involves looking past certain opponents who may deserve a fight based on their past performances.

[Brute]

I think Darren Barker would beat Daniel Geale as well, not trying to wind people up but Geales strong but limited he wouldn't be top 2 in Britain. Honestly watch how he fights, Geale's a decent scrapper who gives as good as he gets but let's face it if he did the hard way through the British Middles wouldn't be a world champ now. Just my opinion.

When was the last UK World middleweight champion? Benn? The Poms made a big deal over Barker beating Ben Crampton who no Australian promoter in his right mind would put in the ring with Geale, Soliman, wood or Mundine. He could not even beat Talipeau.

[Hounddawg]

quote="Hounddawg"]I really wanted Alcine for Geale, Alcine is a lemon, an easy mark
Rubbish like that is exactly what is wrong with boxing.is that really what you want to see a one sided fight?a champion vs a washed up lemon,an easy mark?but a decent matchup such as golovkin has to win a couple of fights to earn the right to fight geale..wake up to yourself,I bet you think mundine vs wood rematch would be a cracka of a fight too.

Hi welcome to the board, just woke up, think you may have misread what i meant.

A few things, Alcine would have got stopped by Geale in front of American audience, makes Geale interesting to the US public( Not well known by casual fans), this is what i meant, other point was, don't carry on too much about Macklins performance, it was impressive, but against who???? Relax Timmy!!


Ummm, unsure of your boxing knowlege, as you're a rookie, but Mundine did rematch Wood my hot headed friend.

GGG, again you don't follow text well, i said i honestly believe he would be Geale's hardest fight, given GGG has had his strongest test recently, for it to be worth while make him chase another 2 names, more so for Geales benefit, when he smacks the shit out of the OLYMPIC Champion!!!!!!

Not quite awake yet, making a cuppa now!

[Hounddawg]

Why does Macklin need to be mentioned with Geale??????

I personally think Macklin needs a very credible win first.... washed up Alcine and Asikainen are his only notable wins and were both long in the tooth when he's fought them. When ever at the top level he's fallen short. Convincing victory over Alcine, fighting a bloke who's won 1 out of his last 3 doesn't keep tounges wagging.

Geale has a pretty decent resume now, in fact the 2nd best in the division atm,he should keep building on this with defences of his belts until Sergio is back and fit, then step up to him.

Let Golovkin get at least 2 more decent victories, before he earns the right, his best win was Proska, and we never really got to see where he was going, as GGG smashed and probably crippled his career. I really think this is going to be the biggest test for Geale.

Don't get me wrong, Macklin would look nice on the record of Geale, however in years to come it will be worth nothing and look like a easy defence to those learning the sport.

Macklin performed no worse against Sturm than Geale did, and he was also very impressive against Martinez and Alcine. This places him near the top 5 of the division, and renders him a credible challenger in my opinion. I also believe that Golovkin, while not accomplished as Geale, would be a deserving challenger; he's destroyed nearly all of his opponents and no more than two fighters can be unarguably ranked ahead of him at 160. If Golovkin and Macklin don't merit the fight based on their performances, who does? Only Martinez? I don't believe that Geale has accomplished enough to put himself on such a pedestal.

However, I do agree that Geale should focus on landing a fight with Martinez, or perhaps even Chavez or Sturm, who are likely among the most lucrative options available. Given the leverage that Geale has, it makes little sense to look outside the biggest names in the division, except for tune-ups or mandatories; this involves looking past certain opponents who may deserve a fight based on their past performances.

I agree about Macklin, he performed very well, i still think Sturm under prepared for the fight though, where is he thought Geale was the biggest fight of his career.
Just saying Geale beat up on much tougher mindset.
He holds 2 victories over German champions in Germany( massive accomplishment in any era), and he deserve's a shot at the other guy who holds the rest of the belts. So yeah i believe right now, the middleweight division still needs sorting, so let them sort it out......Macklin can fight in eliminator and earn his shot, like everyone else, no jumping the line here. I still think he's done nothing to warrant the shot, it would be the same as putting choc forward.
And i was hoping when things were in perspective, people would stop listing the 3 undeserved british challenges to Geales unified crown.


And i much prefered to read your second paragraph, those are the fights i want to see!

[AT MAGIC]

Martinez , chavez are out, Golokin is out also high risk low reward ,theres little interest a soliman fight , hate or love best option is mundine

[caveman]

dont think mundine is an option at all,he hasnt earnt it, declined offers of a rematch,has fought nobody in the last few years etc etc, only people that want this fight are fanatical mundine supporters who have been listening to the crap he has gone on with about fighting the best and hasnt delivered,wont deliver,and is going nowhere, so now geale has got the fairdinkum belts, mundine's supporters think fighting geale will redeem their fighter.....wont happen

[Uppercut1]

Sad how a fighter who unifies two belts still is a nobody in the grand scheme of things.

Geale deserves bigger names.

Screw a Mundine fight. He hasn't earned it.

Soliman would be fun to watch, but yeah, not a crazy demand. Maybe he should just fight soliman now while still biding his time. Least it's a mandatory defense.

[Craig14]

I think Darren Barker would beat Daniel Geale as well, not trying to wind people up but Geales strong but limited he wouldn't be top 2 in Britain. Honestly watch how he fights, Geale's a decent scrapper who gives as good as he gets but let's face it if he did the hard way through the British Middles wouldn't be a world champ now. Just my opinion.

The elite middleweights in Britain are Murray, Macklin, and Barker. Each of them are good fighters, but I don't think they would form an insuperable gamut for Geale.

Neither Barker nor Murray have notable wins; the former's best performance was a KO defeat in which he won only a few rounds, while the latter’s best performance was a fairly rendered draw against Sturm, whom Geale defeated without controversy. Shortly before those fights, Barker struggled with the journeyman Affif Belghecham and was pushed close on points by Spada, while Murray was dropped by Nick Blackwell, an 8 fight domestic-level novice, aged 20. If Geale—a unified world champion who won his titles on the road against top opponents—is limited, how limited is a fighter who scraped by Belghecham? How limited is a fighter who was dropped by Blackwell? It's been years since Geale struggled at levels that low. Moreover, Barker is plagued by injuries and he will have been inactive for over a year when he fights next; this combination of inactivity and injury rarely benefits a fighter—negative outcomes are much more likely in these cases.

Macklin is clearly more proven than Murray and Barker, and I believe that he is the best of the Brits. However, he still has fewer notable wins than Geale does, and overall little differentiates their abilities. Both Geale and Macklin have a high work rate, average speed, and they both punch in combination well. Macklin hits harder, but Geale has shown slightly better stamina (Macklin faded late in multiple fights) and doesn't mark up as easily. Notwithstanding the divergent results, I thought that Macklin and Geale performed similarly well against Sturm, reflecting how evenly matched they are.

I favor Geale over Murray and Barker, but assign roughly 50/50 odds to a Macklin bout. Those odds are one reason it may be unwise for Geale to fight Macklin; great risk without great reward. Geale holds great leverage, as he is a unified champion who is considered very beatable; this gives him a realistic chance of landing bouts that are much more lucrative than those involving British opponents.

You really are one of the better posters on these boards

[AT MAGIC]

dont think mundine is an option at all,he hasnt earnt it, declined offers of a rematch,has fought nobody in the last few years etc etc, only people that want this fight are fanatical mundine supporters who have been listening to the crap he has gone on with about fighting the best and hasnt delivered,wont deliver,and is going nowhere, so now geale has got the fairdinkum belts, mundine's supporters think fighting geale will redeem their fighter.....wont happen

I aint no Mundine fan , Geale wins wide ud or ko and with it gains a biger fanbase gets australia behind him who is out side of boxing not that well known and makes a shit load more money more than 5 times a soliman fight a guaranted sell out anywhere in oz and big ppv seller at the same time

[caveman]

know wat ur gettin at magic,but i reckon the majority of people have either woken up to mundine or just cant be bothered and geale is fighting a class of fighter way above mundines opponents. the fans may think 'oh no,dont go backwards now, but i see ur point and maybe i'm wrong,lol

[AT MAGIC]

I think Martinez first fight back from injury will be Geale or maybe Quillian if he wins his up coming world title fight N 'jakam so i dont want to see a risky fight for Geale. A Martinez fight would be huge and if Dan could pull it off!, That would put him right up there and crack the us market.