P4P SEASON WEEK 21 RESULTS: OFFICIAL THREAD

[Crease]

Unified WBA, WBO, IBF World Titles
SOCKDOLAGER VS KEVO
JOE LOUIS VS MIKE TYSON
OFFICIAL RESULT: NO CONTEST
UNOFFICIAL RESULT: MIKE TYSON TKO 9

WTF TITLE FIGHT
SWEET P VS THE END
MICHAEL SPINKS VS FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR
RESULT: MICHAEL SPINKS TKO 11

SWEET P VS TZYUFOREVER
JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ VS KOSTYA TSZYU
RESULT: JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ

FIST OF LEGEND VS DENO1986
ARCHIE MOORE VS ABE ATTELL
RESULT: DRAW

ADAMJ1987 VS JBACCA
PNACHO VILLA VS JACK DEMPSEY
RESULT: JACK DEMPSEY TKO 4

TZYUFOREVER
LARRY HOLMES VS JAMES "BUSTER" DOUGLAS
RESULT: LARRY HOLMES UD


MDT GROUP STAGES

DEADENDGENERATION VS BENGULNACI1
BENNY LEONARD VS HENRY ARMSTRONG
RESULT: BENNY LEONARD TKO 10

JDC VS BOXBUZZ
SALVADOR SANCHEZ VS JOE FRAZIER
RESULT: SALVADOR SANCHEZ UD

JBACCA VS CREASE
ALEXIS ARGUELLO VS KID CHOCOLATE
RESULT: ALEXIS ARGUELLO TKO 1

P4P1 VS TECHNO89
WILFREDO GOMEZ VS KID GAVILAN
RESULT: KID GAVILAN MD

JDC VS BOXBUZZ
ROBERTO DURAN VS DUILIO LOI
RESULT: ROBERTO DURAN UD

ADAMJ1987 VS HOMICIDEHENRY
PETER JACKSON VS MARCEL CERDAN
RESULT: MARCEL CERDAN SD

DENO1986 VS DETROITHXC
MUHAMMAD ALI VS GENE TUNNEY
RESULT: GENE TUNNEY UD

SOCKDOLAGER VS DANDREWS010
JOE GANS VS NASEEM HAMED
RESULT: JOE GANS UD

IBO TITLE FIGHT
ARMAGETO VS TECHNO89
SUGAR RAY LEONARD VS SUGAR RAY ROBINSON
RESULT: SUGAR RAY ROBINSON TKO 6

BIGJUICYHOG VS DANDREWS010
RICARDO LOPEZ VS THOMAS HEARNS
RESULT: RICARDO LOPEZ UD

DEADENDGENERATION VS KEVO
WILLIE PEP VS HARRY GREB
RESULT: WILLIE PEP SD

WBC WORLD TITLE
THE END VS FIST OF LEGEND
ROY JONES JR VS MARVIN HAGLER
RESULT: MARVIN HAGLER TKO 8

CREASE VS P4P1
ROCKY MARCIANO VS EZZARD CHARLES
RESULT: EZZARD CHARLES UD

ARMAGETO VS HOMICIDEHENRY
JIMMY WILDE VS BILLY CONN
RESULT: JIMMY WILDE UD

LONSDALE SIMRING BELT
DETROITHXC VS BENGULNACI1
EDER JOFRE VS PERNELL WHITAKER
RESULT: PERNELL WHITAKER UD

BIGJUICYHOG
STANLEY KETCHEL VS MAX SCHMELING
RESULT: STANLEY KETCHEL SD

[Crease]

The fights (Louis vs Tyson & Dempsey vs Villa) will not be changed around and re-run, it will mess up the continuity of the game.

However, I accept responsibility for this, I missed out on the Louis challenging Villa (and forgot that it should have been automatically signed).

To prevent this occurance from happening in the future: I will return Jbacca's. The Ends' and Adam's fighters back to the Fighter pools, and until the three Managers return they will be classed as CPU opponents... But they will NOT be available to be picked up.

As for compensation, Tyson vs Louis will be signed for Week 22. Joe will be given an immediate rmeatch and the chance to become (something like a 7 time World Champion)


It's the best I can do at the moment... I'm not going to get it right 100% all the time, I do make mistakes...

[Crease]

And the results of Leonard vs Armstrong have not yet been published.

[Crease]

FINAL GROUP STANDINGS OF THE MILLION DOLLAR TOURNAMENT

Group A.
Benny Leonard - 6 pt.
Henry Armstrong - 3 pts.
Salvador Sanchez - 2 pts.
Joe Frazier - 4 pts.

Group A winner is Benny Leonard (who is currently undefeated in the tournament)
Group A runner up is Joe Frazier

Group B.
Alexis Arguello - 6 pts.
Kid Chocolate - 0 pts.
Wilfredo Gomez - 2 pts.
Kid Gavilan - 6 pts.

Group B winner is Kid Gavilan (with a perfect record of 3 wins)
Group B runner up is Alexis Arguello

Group C.
Roberto Duran - 5 pts.
Duilio Loi - 0 pts.
Peter Jackson - 3 pts.
Marcel Cerdan - 4 pts.

Group C winner is Roberto Duran (who is currently undefeated in the tournament)
Group C runner up is Marcel Cerdan

Group D.
Muhammad Ali - 4 pts.
Gene Tunney - 6 pts.
Joe Gans - 2 pts.
Naseem Hamed - 0 pts.

Group D winner is Gene Tunney (with a perfect record of 3 wins)
Group D runner up is Muhammad Ali

Group E.
Sugar Ray Robinson - 6 pts.
Sugar Ray Leonard - 3 pts.
Ricardo Lopez - 3 pts.
Thomas Hearns - 1 pt.

Group E winner is Sugar Ray Robinson (who is currently undefeated in the tournament)
Group E runner up is Sugar Ray Leonard

Group F.
Willie Pep - 5 pts.
Harry Greb - 4 pts.
Roy Jones Jr - 2 pts.
Marvin Hagler - 3 pts.

Group F winner is Willie Pep
Group F runner up is Harry Greb

Group G.
Rocky Marciano - 4 pts.
Ezzard Charles - 4 pts.
Jimmy Wilde - 2 pts.
Billy Conn - 2 pts.

Group G winner is Ezzard Charles
Group G runner up is Rocky Marciano

Group H.
Eder Jofre - 4 pts.
Pernell Whitaker - 4 pts.
Stanley Ketchel - 4 pts.
Max Schmeling - 0 pts.

Group H winner is Eder Jofre
Group H runner up is Stanley Ketchel

[Crease]

For the tie-breakers: (taken from: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=155436)

In the case of a tie we will decide first on fighters records against each other and if their is still a tie we will add the scores from the judges scorecards in all of their fights, if there is a further tie then they can fight to the death, or a better option will be decided on.

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This gives an unfair advantage to those fighters (Sugar Ray Leonard & Eder Jofre) who were in title fights and have subsequently fought more rounds and tallied up more points. As a matter of fact, all of Leonard's and Jofre's fights have been title fights thus far.

[Crease]

First and foremost you go by their records against each other, and Ketchel beat Whitaker in Group Stage 1.

Jofre beat Ketchel who beat Whitaker. Jofre is the winner, Ketchel is the runner up.

You are forgetting that Whitaker beat Jofre in Group Stage 3. I know that you are desparate to give your fighter every chance of winning the MDT, but please don't think your corruption if fooling anyone.


Here is the real breakdown of fights between the three fighters in Group H:
Week 19: Ketchel beat Whitaker
Week 20: Jofre beat Kettchel
Week 21: Whitaker beat Jofre

so they have all beat each other, and that brings us down to com paring the points.

[Crease]

In the case of Lopez and Sugar Aids Leondard, I would say that since they both got their points by earning a decision over Thomas Hearns and drawing with each other, and Leonard was stopped by Robinson while Lopez lost a hard fought decision, that Lopez deserves to go to the second round.

Anyone have a problem with that?

Well that's certainly one way of looking at it....

From another perspective we could also say that Robinson conclusively beat Lopez because he won on EVERY scorecard and he clearly won that fight.

Leonard give Robinson a scare by knocking him down.

The best way to settle this is a one-off Sugar Ray Leonard vs Ricardo Lopez bout to decide who goes through second place in the group.

[Crease]

Here are the points for the five tied fighters:

Group E.

Sugar Ray Leonard's points:
Week 19: 428 pts
Week 20: 429 pts
Week 21: 141 pts
Total pts: 998 points
(though it must be noted that ALL of Jofre's fights were 15 rounders, giving him an unfair advantage over Lopez)

Ricardo Lopez's points:
Week 19: 428 pts
Week 20: 277 pts
Week 21: 288 pts
Total pts: 993 points

So, if we're going to respect the points tie-break rule that Mr Detroit devised, Leonard would progress.

Though presonally, I think the best and only way of deciding this is a one-off fight between them.


Eder Jofre's points:
Week 19: 430 pts
Week 20: 432 pts
Week 21: 422 pts
Total pts: 1284 pts
(though it must be noted that ALL of Jofre's fights were 15 rounders, giving him an unfair advantage over the others)

Pernell Whitaker's points:
Week 19: 274 pts
Week 20: 286 pts
Week 21: 433 pts
Total pts: 993 pts

Stanley Ketchel's points:
Week 19: 285
Week 20: 420
Week 21: 288
Total pts: 993 pts

Oddly enough, Whitaker and Ketchel points totals are identical... Count them up if you don't believe me.

This needs to be settled one way or the other. I am very reluctant to agree to Jofre progressing, just under the basis that he was fighting 15 rounders. That's no way to qualify through any tournament.



I will put up the Week 22 matchup thread tomorrow.

[JDC]

I'm all bamboozled.

[BoxBuzz]

We will take the time that is needed to sort this out.

Event 22 does not take place until we have a plan that resolves the pending issues.

[Crease]

Jofre walked in as Lonsdale champ, and any champ deserves whatever "extras" come his way, and in this case it's the fact that he fought a few extra rounds (which he dominated for the most part).

Allow me to make this points again, in the case of Jofre, Ketchel & Whitaker

IT WAS A 3-WAY SPLIT TIE

Suppose that we all agree that Jofre progresses as winner of the group, on what basis should Ketchel join him?

And don't say you're reluctant to allow anything involving the tournament

Don't forget I'm the Commish baby, you'd do well to remember that. I've warned you about your attitude before.

[kevo]

Don't forget I'm the Commish baby, you'd do well to remember that. I've warned you about your attitude before.

Seriously Crease, cut this bullshit out.

[JDC]

The SIM is run by consensus, as far as I am aware. Tyszu called it a simocracy.

Whatever's the flow is he way we go.