Just reminiscing: Can any of you think of the guys that came out of the N.Y. Golden Gloves in the 40's, 50's and 60's and looked like sure fire stars, and fizzled as pros?
I think of Howard Davis, Jr. and Alex Ramos. It's hard to include Mark Breland in that list...He became the welterweight champ.
Who else comes to mind for you?
john garfield
40's, 50's & 60's: NY Golden Gloves champs flunked as pr
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I'm puzzled
delisa,
I read your post several times, but I can't figure it out.
Also, I read on a thread on this board that you were from
Williamsburg in Brooklyn. I was. too, briefly, after we moved from the Navy Yard Section.
john garfield
I read your post several times, but I can't figure it out.
Also, I read on a thread on this board that you were from
Williamsburg in Brooklyn. I was. too, briefly, after we moved from the Navy Yard Section.
john garfield
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Roberto Vinas
tomato can,
I think I remember Roberto Vinas. Tell me if I have the right kid. Think it was in the early 70's, and he had a very active bobing and weaving style, like Jose Stable.
He bowled over the amateurs, but it didn't work as well in the pros, and I think he got stopped a couple of times and quit.
These names occur to me: Vince Shomo, Frankie Ryff, Carl Williams, & Johnny Persol
john garfield
I think I remember Roberto Vinas. Tell me if I have the right kid. Think it was in the early 70's, and he had a very active bobing and weaving style, like Jose Stable.
He bowled over the amateurs, but it didn't work as well in the pros, and I think he got stopped a couple of times and quit.
These names occur to me: Vince Shomo, Frankie Ryff, Carl Williams, & Johnny Persol
john garfield
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Coley Wallace
Guest,
Did you ever have the right guy with Wallace!
All one ever heard around stillman's was: This is not only the next Louis... but it is Louis... look at him!
I could see how people could think that from his early fights... but it was just the outer shell that was Louis.
I was certain that the next Robinson was going to be Johnny Saxton...years later, it was going to be Howard Davis, Jr.
I suppose for anything it's true: There's only one original.
john garfield
Did you ever have the right guy with Wallace!
All one ever heard around stillman's was: This is not only the next Louis... but it is Louis... look at him!
I could see how people could think that from his early fights... but it was just the outer shell that was Louis.
I was certain that the next Robinson was going to be Johnny Saxton...years later, it was going to be Howard Davis, Jr.
I suppose for anything it's true: There's only one original.
john garfield
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Forrest Ward
Forrest Ward, the heavyweight from Brownsville, was another one.
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Forrest Ward
Forrest Ward, the heavyweight from Brownsville, was another one.
john garfield
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Re: Forrest Ward
Mitch Greenjohn garfield wrote:Forrest Ward, the heavyweight from Brownsville, was another one.
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I would have to go with my bro. Alex"The Bronx Bomber"Ramos all the way...Nile4000 wrote:\adonis1956 wrote:As far as from the 60's, I'd say the Viruet bro's and Vilomar and Jose Fernandez, They didn't fizzle, but they never became champions.
My buddy Alex Ramos, I thought was a sure thing.
If him and Tony Ayala Jr fought as pros, who do you think would win?