Khan on Ringside.

[safeerah]

This is turning into a political debate.
However I say it again.
The worst racism I have ever witnessed was at a Khan fight and it wasn't the "40 something meat head shaven blah blah" as you so eloquently put it that were dishing it out.
It was Khan's fans - aimed vociferously at the perfectly calm white people around them - including ladies and youngsters.

Do you think people are stupid ? so that's we got it wrong, it was the black slaves who where the racists, not the slave masters, lol.

What an obnoxious response. Twenty Six wasn't saying anything of the sort but because you can't win the argument so you misrepresent what the guy says.

Who's talking about slaves anyway, Mr Historian? Why don't you tell us all about the history of the slave trade in Islamic nations long after it was outlawed in the 'West'?

How is that obnoxious ? It was a comparison you nitwit and how do you know if I am muslim, you ignorant fool, get some education before you debate.

[banjo]

Nowt to do with race on these boards

I think that the problem is alot of posters envy\dislike him due to success

Brits love an underdog/loser ala tim henman

I don't think for a second that anyone here dislikes Khan because of his race. Not a single poster.

The Brits loving a loser is a complete myth. Henman was loved? Only by british tennis fans who would support anyone flying their flag seeing as they are so success starved! Henman was ridiculed by the rest of the nation!

Look at the modern day sporting hero's...Wiggins, Hoy, Ennis, Farah are just four from this Summer. No plucky losers or underdogs there.
Brits love a character and a good story. They also love a winner

Cocky, flash, party animal, womaniser, winner = Possibly the most popular sportsman this country ever produced.

[safeerah]

This is turning into a political debate.
However I say it again.
The worst racism I have ever witnessed was at a Khan fight and it wasn't the "40 something meat head shaven blah blah" as you so eloquently put it that were dishing it out.
It was Khan's fans - aimed vociferously at the perfectly calm white people around them - including ladies and youngsters.

oooh touched a nerve did I? Was i too eloquent in describing you yourself with those adjectives.

Instead of stirring the pot without any evidence why dont you tell us a little more about this "worst case of racism in 35 years of boxing you saw with Khan fans being racist"?...event, place???.....or did it only take place in the figment of your imagination? Lets see if anyone else can corroborate it.
Gee it must have been something really bad to surpass Hagler-Minter in your mind!

Ive been to countless boxing and MMA events. The boxing ones were mostly amateur and i have yet to witness any racism in the amateur code crowds or MMA crowds. I have heard black boxers being abused, and women abused during pro shows. But that is a small minority of drunken idiots who hate on anyone imo.

I have been to a lot of Amir Khan shows and have seen and heard a lot of racism, and I know what colour performs it, too be honest the only thing I have seen from the asians is them responding to paki chants and trying to pull the white girls which upset the white men around them, there is good and bad in every nationality, but racism is reserved mostly for the majority.

[safeerah]

This is turning into a political debate.
However I say it again.
The worst racism I have ever witnessed was at a Khan fight and it wasn't the "40 something meat head shaven blah blah" as you so eloquently put it that were dishing it out.
It was Khan's fans - aimed vociferously at the perfectly calm white people around them - including ladies and youngsters.

Do you think people are stupid ? so that's we got it wrong, it was the black slaves who where the racists, not the slave masters, lol.

at that time in africa they had their own slave system with their own black slaves...stop playing the race card.....people dislike khan because of what he says not what he looks like

America was built on the murder and destruction of the red Indians and the slavery of Africans, Britain was built on the slavery of the africans, child labour, a class system and the occupation, rape, murder( by the millions ) and stealing of the resources of many of the countries on the planet. Some people make me laugh on this forum how they use comments like the above to justify in some way how their relatives where once predators of the world.

[banjo]

This is turning into a political debate.
However I say it again.
The worst racism I have ever witnessed was at a Khan fight and it wasn't the "40 something meat head shaven blah blah" as you so eloquently put it that were dishing it out.
It was Khan's fans - aimed vociferously at the perfectly calm white people around them - including ladies and youngsters.

oooh touched a nerve did I? Was i too eloquent in describing you yourself with those adjectives.

Instead of stirring the pot without any evidence why dont you tell us a little more about this "worst case of racism in 35 years of boxing you saw with Khan fans being racist"?...event, place???.....or did it only take place in the figment of your imagination? Lets see if anyone else can corroborate it.
Gee it must have been something really bad to surpass Hagler-Minter in your mind!

Ive been to countless boxing and MMA events. The boxing ones were mostly amateur and i have yet to witness any racism in the amateur code crowds or MMA crowds. I have heard black boxers being abused, and women abused during pro shows. But that is a small minority of drunken idiots who hate on anyone imo.

I have been to a lot of Amir Khan shows and have seen and heard a lot of racism, and I know what colour performs it, too be honest the only thing I have seen from the asians is them responding to paki chants and trying to pull the white girls which upset the white men around them, there is good and bad in every nationality, but racism is reserved mostly for the majority.

Probably because they were the blokes ladies.

Last scrat who tried it on with my missus got himself a chelsea smile, squealed like a pig he did.

[safeerah]

To BIGMARK and the other patronising git that posted.

I'm not naive. I am from a multi cultural area myself, a town in Manchester. Every third or fourth person is of a different race/background/culture... it's not an issue...

As someone said earlier in the post. Khan was loved at the Olympics, by the UK... Not just minority groups. Opinions have changed purely because Khan rubs people up the wrong way.

Naz got abuse because he thrived on it, it was a character he created for himself... I didn't like Naz at the time.. not because of his skin colour. Because he was a cocky get, but funny with it.. and now I respect him.He was merely a pantomime villain. But Khan is just a fool.

I don't like Khan for the same reason everyone else has stated... now are you saying I am lying to cover up the fact I am racist?

I deal with diversity everyday in my job and am by no means naive.

Really I think your view of racism is very outdated, you need to get out of that crappy pub and out in the real world mate.

I think you should change your name from rob to NOB, just bit of constructive advice, thats all.

[safeerah]

Well that's a first for me.
I'm now a 40 year old shaven headed meat head white van driving benefit cheating BNP member.
I give up.
I'll have a word with my friends in boxing of all ages colours and creeds and see if they agree.
Thanks for that Mugabi.

Drama queen !

[banjo]

Do you think people are stupid ? so that's we got it wrong, it was the black slaves who where the racists, not the slave masters, lol.

at that time in africa they had their own slave system with their own black slaves...stop playing the race card.....people dislike khan because of what he says not what he looks like

America was built on the murder and destruction of the red Indians and the slavery of Africans, Britain was built on the slavery of the africans, child labour, a class system and the occupation, rape, murder( by the millions ) and stealing of the resources of many of the countries on the planet. Some people make laugh on this forum how they use comments like the above to justify in some way how their relatives where once predators of the world.

Yeah and modern people should suffer for what their ancestors did shouldn't they?

By that reckoning you probably think Ratko Mladic was justified in his genocide against muslims in Bosnia because after all he's only doing what the muslims ancestors did to his ancestors

[los2]

Do you think people are stupid ? so that's we got it wrong, it was the black slaves who where the racists, not the slave masters, lol.

at that time in africa they had their own slave system with their own black slaves...stop playing the race card.....people dislike khan because of what he says not what he looks like

America was built on the murder and destruction of the red Indians and the slavery of Africans, Britain was built on the slavery of the africans, child labour, a class system and the occupation, rape, murder( by the millions ) and stealing of the resources of many of the countries on the planet. Some people make laugh on this forum how they use comments like the above to justify in some way how their relatives where once predators of the world.[/quote]



youre ignoring the slave system that was already in africa....read roots - muslim preachers had an army of them.....you,ve chosen to ignore the question on slavery in islamic countries....chip on your shoulder perhaps?

[safeerah]

It seems to me that some people make their minds up about an Amir Khan studio performance before the show has even aired.

I would never argue that Khan hasn't said some daft things over the years, but there was nowt wrong with this latest appearance whatsoever.

Silly topic.

I agree, at least they did not end up brawling, like a pair of kids, Khan will never win over his haters, even if he became pound for pound champion, he knows that, thats why he is defensive sometimes, but I bet he does not give a shit anymore, he is making his money and love him or hate him, they will come.

[Bronxbull666]

Do you think people are stupid ? so that's we got it wrong, it was the black slaves who where the racists, not the slave masters, lol.

at that time in africa they had their own slave system with their own black slaves...stop playing the race card.....people dislike khan because of what he says not what he looks like

America was built on the murder and destruction of the red Indians and the slavery of Africans, Britain was built on the slavery of the africans, child labour, a class system and the occupation, rape, murder( by the millions ) and stealing of the resources of many of the countries on the planet. Some people make laugh on this forum how they use comments like the above to justify in some way how their relatives where once predators of the world.

youre ignoring the slave system that was already in africa....read roots - muslim preachers had an army of them.....you,ve chosen to ignore the question on slavery in islamic countries....chip on your shoulder perhaps?[/quote] Britain are slavery abolishinists, Africans traded their own people for slavery, sold their own family members to slave drivers.

[banjo]

Just to weigh in, the abuse dished out to orthodox Jews at the Salita fight was disgusting, possibly the worst I've seen, and I'm anti-Semitic, I hate applying meaning to anything. It started and continued long after Salita had been banjaxed. That isn't Khan's fault, but it did happen so racist abuse at shows is a two way street and people on both sides who want to deny this are pissing in the wind or just trying to cover their own arse cracks.

As Jennifer Melfi once said: "Is your self-esteem so low that any transgression by a person with the same ethnicity as you is seen a direction reflection on you." MILFI is a fictional character, and she makes more sense than most of the posts on this thread, but then she is a character in The Sorpanos, which is the best TV show of all time, after all.



Come one, come all, come to the earth mother's chest.

I don't want to see any Wire fans rearing their ugly, dark skinned heads, either, and trying to use the history of slavery to persuade us that The Wire was better than The Sopranos — eff that affirmative acton shit. Seasons 2 and 4 were decent, and that is it. People only like it because it has a high number of black characters and white liberals feel compelled to say it is "gritty" etc. in order to cover up their own GUILT!!!!

Now, I'm away to put my soul on ice.

Oh, and I thought both guys came across well on Ringside, they hyped a possible future fight and the job was a good 'un, but they're not in line for Hatton, a win for Hatton will put him in the mix for far bigger fights should he want them.

The Sopranos is the daddy of TV entertainment, it is the greatest TV show ever made.

[loaded_gloves]

Having watched the video, I have to retract my comment. Khan still overrates himself, but he was perfectly fine and acceptable in the interview. Kell Brook isn't very comfortable speaking on camera yet, but they were okay.

The strap line for Audley irked me. 'British & Commonwealth challenger'? They know full well he was a European heavyweight champion, why couldn't they credit him as such? Seemed deliberately cruel and disrespectful.

[safeerah]

Bango

Go back and read your history, when the muslims ruled most of the planet they treated the people they conquered fairly, as an example when they ruled spain, other faiths were allowed co-exist within the muslim structure, when the christians took it back they murdered every person who would not denounce Islam.

yes slavery happened in africa and on the arab peninsula, as well as the rest of the world, in britain the slaved their own people, prisoners and lower class were forced row on the ships traveling the globe, lower class were used as servants and their children taken for slave labour and as chimney sweeps, on a mass scale nobody does it like the white race and England did more damage to the world then any other nation. two wrongs don't make a right, neither does large scale and smaller scale match.

[twenty six]

Safeerah,
I'll add drama queen to the CV as well.
Not a problem.
Now I wonder how you would react if you were called similar things by someone you've never met before ? You know the stereo typical stuff.
Maybe we're book ends ........
Maybe we're not.

[banjo]

Bango

Go back and read your history, when the muslims ruled most of the planet they treated the people they conquered fairly, as an example when they ruled spain, other faiths were allowed co-exist within the muslim structure, when the christians took it back they murdered every person who would not denounce Islam.

yes slavery happened in africa and on the arab peninsula, as well as the rest of the world, in britain the slaved their own people, prisoners and lower class were forced row on the ships traveling the globe, lower class were used as servants and their children taken for slave labour and as chimney sweeps, on a mass scale nobody does it like the white race and England did more damage to the world then any other nation. two wrongs don't make a right, neither does large scale and smaller scale match.

I refuse to believe that.

[safeerah]

Bango

Go back and read your history, when the muslims ruled most of the planet they treated the people they conquered fairly, as an example when they ruled spain, other faiths were allowed co-exist within the muslim structure, when the christians took it back they murdered every person who would not denounce Islam.

yes slavery happened in africa and on the arab peninsula, as well as the rest of the world, in britain the slaved their own people, prisoners and lower class were forced row on the ships traveling the globe, lower class were used as servants and their children taken for slave labour and as chimney sweeps, on a mass scale nobody does it like the white race and England did more damage to the world then any other nation. two wrongs don't make a right, neither does large scale and smaller scale match.

I refuse to believe that.

You don't have to, it's a fact, nations are built on suffering.

[Eddy]

F_cking hell! ...I've got a raging bull hard on looking at that picture. She's got some shooters on her a?

[los2]

America was built on the murder and destruction of the red Indians and the slavery of Africans, Britain was built on the slavery of the africans, child labour, a class system and the occupation, rape, murder( by the millions ) and stealing of the resources of many of the countries on the planet. Some people make me laugh on this forum how they use comments like the above to justify in some way how their relatives where once predators of the world.

some stereotypical anti-western views.....why do you choose to live here?....is it the free speech or that homosexuality is not punished by death?

[palooka]

Bango

Go back and read your history, when the muslims ruled most of the planet they treated the people they conquered fairly, as an example when they ruled spain, other faiths were allowed co-exist within the muslim structure, when the christians took it back they murdered every person who would not denounce Islam.

yes slavery happened in africa and on the arab peninsula, as well as the rest of the world, in britain the slaved their own people, prisoners and lower class were forced row on the ships traveling the globe, lower class were used as servants and their children taken for slave labour and as chimney sweeps, on a mass scale nobody does it like the white race and England did more damage to the world then any other nation. two wrongs don't make a right, neither does large scale and smaller scale match.

Maybe, maybe not. The average man in the street not done a great deal of harm to anyone though; we may have had greedy and brutal rulers and systems. The Indian continent weren't always such a shining example of love, harmony, understanding and charity as it is today and I think I'd feel like I'd had a bit of a bum deal if I an were born an untouchable in one of the mega slums.

[Eddy]

Every country is guilty at some time in history as having done the dirty on another country or to other races, or to its own people.

[palooka]

Every country is guilty at some time in history as having done do dirty on another country or to other races, or to its own people.

x2 (and for the most part the systems and policies that cause such harm or the people that reap the real reward don't post on boxing sites)

Khan is having a fantastic career, is a bit of a fool at times and Brook will do very well to match his professional achievements, there's no way in the world that Brook would have battered Khan in sparring 8 years ago; he'd have gone to Olympics and done the business wouldn't he have?

[ShadrachSimmo]

Just to weigh in, the abuse dished out to orthodox Jews at the Salita fight was disgusting, possibly the worst I've seen, and I'm anti-Semitic, I hate applying meaning to anything. It started and continued long after Salita had been banjaxed. That isn't Khan's fault, but it did happen so racist abuse at shows is a two way street and people on both sides who want to deny this are pissing in the wind or just trying to cover their own arse cracks.

As Jennifer Melfi once said: "Is your self-esteem so low that any transgression by a person with the same ethnicity as you is seen a direction reflection on you." MILFI is a fictional character, and she makes more sense than most of the posts on this thread, but then she is a character in The Sorpanos, which is the best TV show of all time, after all.



Come one, come all, come to the earth mother's chest.

I don't want to see any Wire fans rearing their ugly, dark skinned heads, either, and trying to use the history of slavery to persuade us that The Wire was better than The Sopranos — eff that affirmative acton shit. Seasons 2 and 4 were decent, and that is it. People only like it because it has a high number of black characters and white liberals feel compelled to say it is "gritty" etc. in order to cover up their own GUILT!!!!

Now, I'm away to put my soul on ice.

Oh, and I thought both guys came across well on Ringside, they hyped a possible future fight and the job was a good 'un, but they're not in line for Hatton, a win for Hatton will put him in the mix for far bigger fights should he want them.

The Sopranos is the daddy of TV entertainment, it is the greatest TV show ever made.

100%. Pure genius it is comedy gold. The subtle jokes and immoral violence go hand in hand like immoral violence and subtle jokes...

[Eddy]

Great show. Bought the box set. Best £50 I've ever spent.

[Eddy]

I think she looked nicer there than she did in Goodfellas. I love an old sparrow.