Welliver is an interesting case, yes he's ranked higher and has some sort of name. The fight with Williams looked really bad for him IMO, ended up a bit of farce and made Chauncy and Williams look like a bit of a side show.
I like Chauncy, but the problem with fighting him its always going to an ugly looking fight and an unattractive win. At the stage Marks at, just a win isn't enough, it has to be a good looking win to get attention.
Welliver is an interesting case, yes he's ranked higher and has some sort of name. The fight with Williams looked really bad for him IMO, ended up a bit of farce and made Chauncy and Williams look like a bit of a side show.
I like Chauncy, but the problem with fighting him its always going to an ugly looking fight and an unattractive win. At the stage Marks at, just a win isn't enough, it has to be a good looking win to get attention.
Has Chauncy fought the Japanese guy yet? Result?
Thanks for clearing that up, If Mark does not get the Wilder fight we all hope he does - Will he fight one more time in Australia?.
As for a Welliver fight. As ugly as it could be, Im sure Mark would be the first guy to KO him. If he gets by the Japanese pug and Wilder falls through Mark should give the fans/pundits what they want to see.
Welliver is an interesting case, yes he's ranked higher and has some sort of name. The fight with Williams looked really bad for him IMO, ended up a bit of farce and made Chauncy and Williams look like a bit of a side show.
I like Chauncy, but the problem with fighting him its always going to an ugly looking fight and an unattractive win. At the stage Marks at, just a win isn't enough, it has to be a good looking win to get attention.
Has Chauncy fought the Japanese guy yet? Result?
Thanks for clearing that up, If Mark does not get the Wilder fight we all hope he does - Will he fight one more time in Australia?.
As for a Welliver fight. As ugly as it could be, Im sure Mark would be the first guy to KO him. If he gets by the Japanese pug and Wilder falls through Mark should give the fans/pundits what they want to see.
If the Wilder fight doesn't happen it will almost certainly be another stiff in Australia.
Do you think it is easy to get a fight in the USA? The Yanks usually only let people in for work purposes if they can do something a local can't.
There are 428 active heavyweight boxers in the USA, which means they do not have to travel overseas to get fights and they do not particularly want any outsiders to come in and upset their applecart.
Brute wrote:Do you think it is easy to get a fight in the USA? The Yanks usually only let people in for work purposes if they can do something a local can't.
There are 428 active heavyweight boxers in the USA, which means they do not have to travel overseas to get fights and they do not particularly want any outsiders to come in and upset their applecart.
Did I say it is easy to get a fight in the USA?
It is easy to get washed up stiffs like Weida to come out here though
Brute wrote:..and it is easy for shit like you to crap on about things you know nothing about.
The difference between you and me is I have the ability to analyze and discuss things in a rational manner
Come on TrainInsane its the truth, Troy Weida was a 1 + 1/2 week replacement when the original fighter withdraw. Dont hear you giving shit about Alex Leapai fighting him with more then 2 months notice?.
I get it with de Mori needing to step up but after a 2 year in peril you cant Justify your statments of him fighting stiffs being 3 fights into his restart.
Brute wrote:..and it is easy for shit like you to crap on about things you know nothing about.
The difference between you and me is I have the ability to analyze and discuss things in a rational manner
Come on TrainInsane its the truth, Troy Weida was a 1 + 1/2 week replacement when the original fighter withdraw. Dont hear you giving shit about Alex Leapai fighting him with more then 2 months notice?.
I get it with de Mori needing to step up but after a 2 year in peril you cant Justify your statments of him fighting stiffs being 3 fights into his restart.
Seriously? The original fighter was as bad or worse than Weida. 2 of his 3 recent opponents were washed up old guys getting their last paydays with a trip to Oz thrown in. Don't you think he is due to fight someone with a ranking that doesn't read like someone's phone number? Serious question. See if your debating skills are a bit better than the earlier sook.
Let's see if Convict has a better ability to communicate. Which is after all what this forum is intended for.
In response to your previous post:
The original fighter was as bad or worse than Weida. 2 of De Mori's 3 most recent opponents were washed up old guys getting their last paydays with a trip to Oz thrown in. Don't you think he is due to fight someone with a ranking that doesn't read like someone's phone number? Serious question
TrainInsane wrote:Let's see if Convict has a better ability to communicate. Which is after all what this forum is intended for.
In response to your previous post:
The original fighter was as bad or worse than Weida. 2 of De Mori's 3 most recent opponents were washed up old guys getting their last paydays with a trip to Oz thrown in. Don't you think he is due to fight someone with a ranking that doesn't read like someone's phone number? Serious question
If you have read my comments then i would not need to answer you question. But with the through of sounding redundant i could just quote my prev post for you
However i wont. Mark is trying to get a fight with Wilder and he is unbeaten so its a step up in my POV and a good move if it gets on TV. If that does not happen i hope he can finally fight Weliver if Chauncy gets by the pug in Japan.
Weida was a stiff, Calloway was not. Weida btw was the 3rd replacement after the American then Sth American pulled out.
When you have people dropping out of fights and a short list by way of DKP what do you do? Not fight at all and let a promotion/event fall flat on its arse? Not to mention any money that was invested in it?. Please answer that TrainInsane.
TrainInsane wrote:Let's see if Convict has a better ability to communicate. Which is after all what this forum is intended for.
In response to your previous post:
The original fighter was as bad or worse than Weida. 2 of De Mori's 3 most recent opponents were washed up old guys getting their last paydays with a trip to Oz thrown in. Don't you think he is due to fight someone with a ranking that doesn't read like someone's phone number? Serious question
If you have read my comments then i would not need to answer you question. But with the through of sounding redundant i could just quote my prev post for you
However i wont. Mark is trying to get a fight with Wilder and he is unbeaten so its a step up in my POV and a good move if it gets on TV. If that does not happen i hope he can finally fight Weliver if Chauncy gets by the pug in Japan.
Weida was a stiff, Calloway was not. Weida btw was the 3rd replacement after the American then Sth American pulled out.
When you have people dropping out of fights and a short list by way of DKP what do you do? Not fight at all and let a promotion/event fall flat on its arse? Not to mention any money that was invested in it?. Please answer that TrainInsane.
The Bolivian guy was an absolute joke and it was going to be a title def fight too. I believe that promotion fell flat on it's arse as it turns out anyway. Coming back to Callaway. He was 42 and it was a retirement fight. Should have retired years ago. Not much merit beating guys like that. Wilder would be the best and probably first serious opponent still in good shape De Mori has ever fought. Maybe you disagree with that?
TrainInsane wrote:Let's see if Convict has a better ability to communicate. Which is after all what this forum is intended for.
In response to your previous post:
The original fighter was as bad or worse than Weida. 2 of De Mori's 3 most recent opponents were washed up old guys getting their last paydays with a trip to Oz thrown in. Don't you think he is due to fight someone with a ranking that doesn't read like someone's phone number? Serious question
If you have read my comments then i would not need to answer you question. But with the through of sounding redundant i could just quote my prev post for you
However i wont. Mark is trying to get a fight with Wilder and he is unbeaten so its a step up in my POV and a good move if it gets on TV. If that does not happen i hope he can finally fight Weliver if Chauncy gets by the pug in Japan.
Weida was a stiff, Calloway was not. Weida btw was the 3rd replacement after the American then Sth American pulled out.
When you have people dropping out of fights and a short list by way of DKP what do you do? Not fight at all and let a promotion/event fall flat on its arse? Not to mention any money that was invested in it?. Please answer that TrainInsane.
The Bolivian guy was an absolute joke and it was going to be a title def fight too. I believe that promotion fell flat on it's arse as it turns out anyway. Coming back to Callaway. He was 42 and it was a retirement fight. Should have retired years ago. Not much merit beating guys like that. Wilder would be the best and probably first serious opponent still in good shape De Mori has ever fought. Maybe you disagree with that?
Besides Alex Leapai i say that's correct.
Im not hear to earn brownie points. I agree with what you say about the Weida stuff to some extend and its justifiable. But you constantly go on about it like de Mori is doing a Mundine or something? Come on its getting old.
convict wrote:
If you have read my comments then i would not need to answer you question. But with the through of sounding redundant i could just quote my prev post for you
However i wont. Mark is trying to get a fight with Wilder and he is unbeaten so its a step up in my POV and a good move if it gets on TV. If that does not happen i hope he can finally fight Weliver if Chauncy gets by the pug in Japan.
Weida was a stiff, Calloway was not. Weida btw was the 3rd replacement after the American then Sth American pulled out.
When you have people dropping out of fights and a short list by way of DKP what do you do? Not fight at all and let a promotion/event fall flat on its arse? Not to mention any money that was invested in it?. Please answer that TrainInsane.
The Bolivian guy was an absolute joke and it was going to be a title def fight too. I believe that promotion fell flat on it's arse as it turns out anyway. Coming back to Callaway. He was 42 and it was a retirement fight. Should have retired years ago. Not much merit beating guys like that. Wilder would be the best and probably first serious opponent still in good shape De Mori has ever fought. Maybe you disagree with that?
Besides Alex Leapai i say that's correct.
Im not hear to earn brownie points. I agree with what you say about the Weida stuff to some extend and its justifiable. But you constantly go on about it like de Mori is doing a Mundine or something? Come on its getting old.
The Weida stuff is only justifiable to 'some extent'? Late notice sure. But he was an absolute total stiff on his last legs. The Bolivian was a dud too. Alex Leapai could hardly be considered a career defining fight when he was making his pro debut. Has done good things since though. De Mori is a wasted talent that is why I am critical of him. Mundine is also a wasted talent. But he has at least fought a few opponents of his own level.
Brute wrote:Still talking about a fight you did not see, Alan?
Glad I missed seeing the 400th ranked Weida get touched up in front of half a crowd. The fact his corner themselves were hoping he would hang the gloves up adequately summarizes the value of the win.
