ripped off by bookmakers.... ?

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 26 Sep 2005, 07:53

I went to a bookmakers on friday and placed £40 on Klitchko to win the fight, went to collect my winnings today only to be told that when you put a bet on "to win" points dont count. Anyone else heard of this ?

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 26 Sep 2005, 08:03

Wales wrote:I went to a bookmakers on friday and placed £40 on Klitchko to win the fight, went to collect my winnings today only to be told that when you put a bet on "to win" points dont count. Anyone else heard of this ?

You have been robbed.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 26 Sep 2005, 08:04

Wales wrote:I went to a bookmakers on friday and placed £40 on Klitchko to win the fight, went to collect my winnings today only to be told that when you put a bet on "to win" points dont count. Anyone else heard of this ?

No.

I've put bets on in the past which have specified that they have to win inside the distance, but surely if you had just bet to win then you should get paid on a points victory IMO

ptwbuk · Post by **ptwbuk** » 26 Sep 2005, 08:07

There is no way in the world if all you have said is correct that they can do that. I would strongly recommend you taking the bookmaker in question to IBAS their regulatory body, you will get payed out on your bet.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 26 Sep 2005, 08:10

What price were you quoted? Might give us an idea if it was Klitscko win outright or inside the distance price.

E · Post by E » 26 Sep 2005, 08:12

Chambers2 wrote:
Wales wrote:I went to a bookmakers on friday and placed £40 on Klitchko to win the fight, went to collect my winnings today only to be told that when you put a bet on "to win" points dont count. Anyone else heard of this ?
No.

I've put bets on in the past which have specified that they have to win inside the distance, but surely if you had just bet to win then you should get paid on a points victory IMO

This is bollox. Unless you specify the manner in which they win as part of your bet, then a points win is a win...

I won £250 on Klitchko for the straight win.

Very odd.

I always bet online anyway - less hassle. [/url]

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 26 Sep 2005, 08:13

Evens!! - most online ones had 12/10 or 13/10 etc...

my btting slip says

Klitchko to win £40 Sept 24th (spelling mistake is on there aswel)

E · Post by E » 26 Sep 2005, 08:15

Wales wrote:Evens!!

my btting slip says

Klitchko to win £40 Sept 24th (spelling mistake is on there aswel)

This is for the straight win - either the staff member you spoke to does not know what they're talking about, or it is a v dodgy bookie.

What is the name of the bookie?

You also got stiffed on the odds - I got 6/4 on a Klitschko win.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 26 Sep 2005, 08:16

Wales wrote:Evens!! - most online ones had 12/10 or 13/10 etc...

my btting slip says

Klitchko to win £40 Sept 24th (spelling mistake is on there aswel)

Then you are due back £80. End of story. Indeed, get in touch with their regulatory body if they are denying you this.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 26 Sep 2005, 08:16

What a rip off, deserve a write up in the local papers if that's case.

I had 6/4 on Wlad to win at Bluesquare. Another good one is bet365 - I had a bet to win, and when it was a draw they gave me my cash back!

Now that's service

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 26 Sep 2005, 08:19

I had seen better odds online, however, dont have an account and didnt have me (visa) cards in work with me. Thought i'd pop down to corbetts (north west ) bookmakers. Asked for odds on klitchko to win and aftera phone call was told evens. Walked out thinking sod that, got in the car but thought i may aswel take it so did. Went back today and they refused to pay out, phoned their head office and was told thats consistent with all bookmakers. To win is to KO and that an evens bet would be far too good odds for just a win....

will contact the aforementioned governing body

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 26 Sep 2005, 08:20

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
Wales wrote:Evens!! - most online ones had 12/10 or 13/10 etc...

my btting slip says

Klitchko to win £40 Sept 24th (spelling mistake is on there aswel)
Then you are due back £80. End of story. Indeed, get in touch with their regulatory body if they are denying you this.

Definitely for the straight win.

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 26 Sep 2005, 08:22

Yep, that's horseshit. They've no idea what they're talking about and it most certainly is not the industry standard.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 26 Sep 2005, 09:08

Hear hear. If it was to win only inside the distance you would've written that wouldn't you? And if that's (fornicating ridiculous) his policy he should have made it clear. Sounds like a right douche-bagging plank

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 26 Sep 2005, 09:13

Wales wrote:I had seen better odds online, however, dont have an account and didnt have me (visa) cards in work with me. Thought i'd pop down to corbetts (north west ) bookmakers. Asked for odds on klitchko to win and aftera phone call was told evens. Walked out thinking sod that, got in the car but thought i may aswel take it so did. Went back today and they refused to pay out, phoned their head office and was told thats consistent with all bookmakers. To win is to KO and that an evens bet would be far too good odds for just a win....

will contact the aforementioned governing body

I think these characters need exposing. It is out and out Fraud really. Go to the regulatory body and say you will contact the local papers if you don't recieve satisfacttion.

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 26 Sep 2005, 09:20

That's a complete rip-off.

"IF" it's a reputable bookies, I'd take the matter further.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 26 Sep 2005, 09:28

Ive been to IBAS and am in the process of completing a betting arbitration form. Hopefuly they'll resolve the matter. The guy on the phone was basically saying it sounds like the bookies are wrong. They can however have their own rules on bets, if thats the case and I get naff all local press will be next port of call.

boxingchat · Post by **boxingchat** » 26 Sep 2005, 09:42

Bullshit that is. Had a similar thing when I bet that Kevin Keegan would be the next England Manager and when he only took the job, initially on a one match trial, they wouldn't pay me out. The regulatory body intervened and I got my cash. "The next Manager is the next man to pick the team" they said so I fucked Ladbrokes.

Also, they tried to fornicate me when I used the wording 'retain' rather than win in a title fight. The fight was draw and they tried to stiff me again. 'Retain' covered me for the draw and guess what - fucked them again and got paid. out....2-0 to me!!

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 26 Sep 2005, 10:30

You were lucky on the retained one Iwould think.

ptwbuk · Post by **ptwbuk** » 26 Sep 2005, 11:38

Extremely lucky on the retained one, sounds a bit like you and not the bookie was being a tad underhanded.

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 26 Sep 2005, 12:13

Technically Boxingchat IS correct though. I say it's nice to see the bookies get a taste of their own.

boxingchat · Post by **boxingchat** » 26 Sep 2005, 12:17

As they say read the small print. If they don't understand the sport they shouldn't take the bet.

Alway's put retained...cover ones arse I say!

boxingchat · Post by **boxingchat** » 26 Sep 2005, 12:18

Wales wrote:Ive been to IBAS and am in the process of completing a betting arbitration form. Hopefuly they'll resolve the matter. The guy on the phone was basically saying it sounds like the bookies are wrong. They can however have their own rules on bets, if thats the case and I get naff all local press will be next port of call.

Get a letter from the local commision in NJ and from Fightfax stating that he won and they cannot get out of it. fornicate em and fornicate em hard Welshy!

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 26 Sep 2005, 12:52

boxingchat wrote:Bullshit that is. Had a similar thing when I bet that Kevin Keegan would be the next England Manager and when he only took the job, initially on a one match trial, they wouldn't pay me out. The regulatory body intervened and I got my cash. "The next Manager is the next man to pick the team" they said so I fucked Ladbrokes.

Also, they tried to fornicate me when I used the wording 'retain' rather than win in a title fight. The fight was draw and they tried to stiff me again. 'Retain' covered me for the draw and guess what - fucked them again and got paid. out....2-0 to me!!

Sounds like they didn't know what retained meant.

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 26 Sep 2005, 13:07

I remember reading about a fella who put a bet on for Audley Harrison to become a world champion by 2005, so when Audley won the WBF title beating Richel Hersisia, the fella went down to his bookies to collect his winnings. The bookies argued that Audley wasn't a genuine world champion, but the fella went higher with his argument and the bookies where forced to pay out.

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