Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

forcefraser
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 5514
Joined: 17 Jun 2008, 06:15

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by forcefraser »

Gallagher got a bit riled when Nelson asked him what he thought about the assumption that he trained all his fighters the same way.
stujones
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 27516
Joined: 29 Aug 2003, 15:08

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by stujones »

forcefraser wrote:Gallagher got a bit riled when Nelson asked him what he thought about the assumption that he trained all his fighters the same way.
It probably took him by surprise also. Nelson just completely changed the topic - don't think Gallagher was expecting that.

Good that it wasn't just a back patting exercise, but was so out of context with the segment they were on.

Gallagher was clearly riled, as I think anyone would be, but it was a calm well thought response.

Why didn't team Sky go to McCraken, aside from a world class amateur fighter that joined your stable you aint done much as a pro trainer.
dondada
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 8872
Joined: 26 Nov 2003, 10:55

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by dondada »

stujones wrote:
forcefraser wrote:Gallagher got a bit riled when Nelson asked him what he thought about the assumption that he trained all his fighters the same way.
It probably took him by surprise also. Nelson just completely changed the topic - don't think Gallagher was expecting that.

Good that it wasn't just a back patting exercise, but was so out of context with the segment they were on.

Gallagher was clearly riled, as I think anyone would be, but it was a calm well thought response.

Why didn't team Sky go to McCraken, aside from a world class amateur fighter that joined your stable you aint done much as a pro trainer.
It was the best question Johnny has ever asked, by miles.

Problem was, as you say Stu, it was out of place and given no context.
stujones
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 27516
Joined: 29 Aug 2003, 15:08

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by stujones »

It was just weirdly asked also. I thought it was Nelson going actually defend Gallagher not ask it as a question.

It was something like.... "Now on twitter so people have accused you of training all your fighters to fight one way".... I was fully expecting Nelson to follow by saying "BUT that is definately not the case" - but he kind of stopped mid statement and you could see Gallagher think "oh this is a dig". There wasn't even a "what do you say to people who think that?"

It was a great question, because it was bang on the money - rightly or wrongly there has been many many boxing forum posters question particularly the development of Steve Smith under Gallagher for these reasons. It was great that Nelson brought it up, but it just seemed so random and out of there.
palooka
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 15698
Joined: 20 Jan 2012, 15:31

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by palooka »

Johnny will fit into the role and make it his own; he has years and years of experience and is intelligent; he's developing his craft; in a few years he will be very well thought of and respected.
Tomasino
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 7876
Joined: 24 Apr 2010, 16:39

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by Tomasino »

palooka wrote:Johnny will fit into the role and make it his own; he has years and years of experience and is intelligent; he's developing his craft; in a few years he will be very well thought of and respected.

A least he will be if you have your way palooka :lol:
palooka
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 15698
Joined: 20 Jan 2012, 15:31

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by palooka »

He weren't a right good boxer and stuck at it and did ok :TU: I can imagine he'd see this as a job that he can get better at; there are a lot of people that will never like him or anything he does anyway. Can't imagine he loses much sleep though eh?
Kilburn
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 6720
Joined: 25 Jul 2002, 07:27

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by Kilburn »

There had better be some improvement in Sky's international coverage in the new year as it's just pitiful at the moment. They've got no business sitting in a studio talking about fights every week when they're not showing anything!

I don't need to see Tyson talking about Cus D'Mato for the millionth time, like it's some major achievement for Sky to set up an interview with Iron Mike.
dbf
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 1793
Joined: 28 Nov 2003, 11:06

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by dbf »

stujones wrote:
forcefraser wrote:Gallagher got a bit riled when Nelson asked him what he thought about the assumption that he trained all his fighters the same way.
It probably took him by surprise also. Nelson just completely changed the topic - don't think Gallagher was expecting that.

Good that it wasn't just a back patting exercise, but was so out of context with the segment they were on.

Gallagher was clearly riled, as I think anyone would be, but it was a calm well thought response.

Why didn't team Sky go to McCraken, aside from a world class amateur fighter that joined your stable you aint done much as a pro trainer.
That would have been a great question. McCraken hasn't trained anyone of note other than Froch. Eastman was mid career when he joined McCracken (and had recently beat him!). He's not brought any other fighters through.
DavidPayne
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 6248
Joined: 11 Mar 2004, 11:00

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by DavidPayne »

Cancelled Sky Sports months ago.

Go to the pub if they come with a fight I want to see.

Same for allegedly.

So far I've made as special effort to go out for Haye v Chisora and Price v Harrison this season.

I always go out for Tyson Fury fights.

Very popular among the non-boxing fans.
stujones
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 27516
Joined: 29 Aug 2003, 15:08

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by stujones »

dbf wrote:
stujones wrote:
forcefraser wrote:Gallagher got a bit riled when Nelson asked him what he thought about the assumption that he trained all his fighters the same way.
It probably took him by surprise also. Nelson just completely changed the topic - don't think Gallagher was expecting that.

Good that it wasn't just a back patting exercise, but was so out of context with the segment they were on.

Gallagher was clearly riled, as I think anyone would be, but it was a calm well thought response.

Why didn't team Sky go to McCraken, aside from a world class amateur fighter that joined your stable you aint done much as a pro trainer.
That would have been a great question. McCraken hasn't trained anyone of note other than Froch. Eastman was mid career when he joined McCracken (and had recently beat him!). He's not brought any other fighters through.
Don't want to annoy the trainer of one of your 6 title holders that you have in your stable (and the only world champion).
fizzjambo
Cruiserweight
Posts: 1283
Joined: 22 Sep 2010, 10:36

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by fizzjambo »

Vaudeville Villain wrote:It is all very Groundhog Day. Wasn't there a Tyson feature a year or so ago?

I've no axe to grind when it comes to Nelson, the Sky team are generally good, but there's loads of presenters and nothing for to get their teeth into. They do the odd debate, but all broadly agree, so it isn't really a debate as they know the outcome before they begin it.

Imagine if Marvel made Avengers 2 and Iron Man, The Hulk, Thor, Captain America, leather catsuit big tits and not Jason Bourne were all in it yet they had no one to fight. It would just be that lot sat about talking about what happened in the first film, which is very much like Ringside's current output.

Thor: "Remember when we had an amazing final showdown in New York at the end of the last film?"

Iron Man: "Yeah, that was awesome, and I'm kind of bored, so we should show highlights of it for the next few hours."

Captain America: "But what about the audience and these patriotic, good people who have paid good money to watch this sequel?"

The Hulk: "eff them. We only care about the footy fans."

Iron Man: "Hulk's very lucid today. Too ludic. Loki, is that you?"

Thor: "Nah, Loki's signed to Allegedly channel, along with Marvels' other major villains, which is why we're sat around doing piss all. I'm away to bang Natalie Portman with my big hammer. Peace."
NERD!
Tomasino
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 7876
Joined: 24 Apr 2010, 16:39

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by Tomasino »

palooka wrote:He weren't a right good boxer and stuck at it and did ok :TU: I can imagine he'd see this as a job that he can get better at; there are a lot of people that will never like him or anything he does anyway. Can't imagine he loses much sleep though eh?

Certainly not over my opinion. Your right though, his boxing career shows massive determination to improve himself. Let me know if he does get better, then I can start watching ringside again :TU:
ShadrachSimmo
Cruiserweight
Posts: 4738
Joined: 20 Oct 2010, 05:42

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by ShadrachSimmo »

No way Adam smith was a kid in 1990. I was a kid in 1990 and I'm at least years younger than him.
slapbangwhallop
Cruiserweight
Posts: 2031
Joined: 13 Dec 2010, 08:27

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by slapbangwhallop »

For all the Bunce bashing to goes on here, remember he does hours on end live and unscripted. Whereas those on Ringside have a week to prepare. Hours to film a single hour show. And more backroom support than Charles and Camilla to edit and produce.

Just worth pointing out.

P.S. I enjoy, watch and subscribe to both shows.
danconnollyeire
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 3576
Joined: 24 May 2012, 10:31

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by danconnollyeire »

slapbangwhallop wrote:For all the Bunce bashing to goes on here, remember he does hours on end live and unscripted. Whereas those on Ringside have a week to prepare. Hours to film a single hour show. And more backroom support than Charles and Camilla to edit and produce.

Just worth pointing out.

P.S. I enjoy, watch and subscribe to both shows.
And starts legal writs against forums :evil:
twenty six
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 3574
Joined: 17 Jun 2006, 13:43

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by twenty six »

Slapbang.
Wrong !
Ringside is filmed on the day it goes out.
They have one rehearsal run through in the morning then film straight after.
jBacca
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 5563
Joined: 14 Sep 2008, 17:40

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by jBacca »

Is Eubank purposely vague when it comes to answering a question? It was like a Q&A with Horse.
twenty six
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 3574
Joined: 17 Jun 2006, 13:43

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by twenty six »

They filmed a special with him straight after mate that is really good.
Will be shown in the new year.
dbf
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 1793
Joined: 28 Nov 2003, 11:06

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by dbf »

twenty six wrote:Slapbang.
Wrong !
Ringside is filmed on the day it goes out.
They have one rehearsal run through in the morning then film straight after.
This is true. They pretty much film as live.

Sky don't have all week to dwell on one thing, when they have so much more stuff to prepare.
jBacca
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 5563
Joined: 14 Sep 2008, 17:40

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by jBacca »

twenty six wrote:They filmed a special with him straight after mate that is really good.
Will be shown in the new year.
I trust your opinion so look forward to it.

He was doing me head in last night. They were asking him about Froch and I thought it was cringey how he was avoiding answering the question but still made it glaringly obvious that he doesn't rate the current fighters in comparison to his era.
palooka
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 15698
Joined: 20 Jan 2012, 15:31

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by palooka »

Froch would have fit into any era; it shouldn't hurt to give credit where credit is due.
slapbangwhallop
Cruiserweight
Posts: 2031
Joined: 13 Dec 2010, 08:27

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by slapbangwhallop »

twenty six wrote:Slapbang.
Wrong !
Ringside is filmed on the day it goes out.
They have one rehearsal run through in the morning then film straight after.
Its not wrong actually. Plenty of the segments are in the can well in advance. And as you say, they even have a full run through.

People ain't comparing apples with apples
samc1967
Super Middleweight
Posts: 2
Joined: 16 Nov 2012, 11:39

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by samc1967 »

Terrrrry wrote:So Manny Steward was a "hall of train famer", was he Johnny? :lol:

His cock ups when presenting Ringside are getting worse!
I also remember Jonnie getting voted as being involved in one of the most boring fights ever again Carlos De Leon
It was like watching paint dry !!
samc1967
Super Middleweight
Posts: 2
Joined: 16 Nov 2012, 11:39

Re: Johnny Nelson at it again on Ringside

Post by samc1967 »

Also Jonnie was voted as being in one of the most boring fights ever . Against Carlos De Leon. It was like watching paint dry! :box: :box: :box: :box: :box:
Post Reply