ESB Forum CLOSED???!!!

[Coco]

It does show we have to careful, freedom of speech works both ways, hopefully we will not have an influx of esb posters on here now!

[milpool]

Congleton didn't last long...

[LeedsLad]

Most of the best ESB posters are now on checkhookboxing.com, similar levels of traffic to here.

I was banned for two years for starting a thread titled ''You may take our lives, but you'll never take our freedom'', and bypassed the sensors to type in allegedly multiple times.

I was bored at work and had nothing better to do.... but was re-instated shortly afterwards.

There's no control over trolls, that's people's main gripe with the place.

[danconnollyeire]

Congleton didn't last long...

To be fair Pigg has lasted a while

And will be back

[LeedsLad]

Pigg got onto ESB three times.

[danconnollyeire]

Pigg got onto ESB three times.

He's got on here at least five times

[milpool]

He broke his cover by sending me another pointless PM.

[danconnollyeire]

He broke his cover by sending me another pointless PM.

Snap

and the fact he started a thread title 'Pigg Wilson - I want Dan Connolly to be my dad'

[LeedsLad]

Flint Island was the best troll on ESB.

China Hand Joe is probably the best one on there now....

Not sure Primadonna Kool classes as one....

All others are a pale imitation.

[danconnollyeire]

Flint Island was the best troll on ESB.

China Hand Joe is probably the best one on there now....

Not sure Primadonna Kool classes as one....

All others are a pale imitation.

Pigg is terrible. He thinks by regularly stating PIGG he will go down as one of the best. He's so uncreative and boring!

[Horse]

It does show we have to careful, freedom of speech works both ways, hopefully we will not have an influx of esb posters on here now!

I don't understand.

[Coco]

Free to say what you want and also being free from people saying things that are not true.

[Horse]

Free to say what you want and also being free from people saying things that are not true.

That is the opposite of free speech.

[Coco]

Free to say what you want and also being free from people saying things that are not true.

That is the opposite of free speech.

I think you get my point

[Horse]

I think you get my point

How does that show that free speech works both ways?

I think your point is a little bit messed up, Coco.

[dondada]

I think you get my point

How does that show that free speech works both ways?

I think your point is a little bit messed up, Coco.

Coco's point is fine (though I wish he himself would adhere to it more often). With rights come responsibilities. Free speech needs to be balanced against the rights of the individual. Lies/inaccuracies don't qualify as being protected under 'free speech'.

Unfortunately, it's a myth that we have free speech, anyway. If you don't have a fortune, sometimes you have to STFU, unfortunately.

[JLP]

If you don't have a fortune, sometimes you have to STFU, unfortunately.

If you don't have anything you can pretty much say what you want.

[dondada]

If you don't have a fortune, sometimes you have to STFU, unfortunately.

If you don't have anything you can pretty much say what you want.

Aye, that's another way of looking at it

[Horse]

Coco's point is fine (though I wish he himself would adhere to it more often). With rights come responsibilities. Free speech needs to be balanced against the rights of the individual. Lies/inaccuracies don't qualify as being protected under 'free speech'.

No, true freedom of speech includes the right to lie.

Unfortunately, it's a myth that we have free speech, anyway. If you don't have a fortune, sometimes you have to STFU, unfortunately.

I partially agree. We don't have free speech in this nation, but we bloody well should have.

If the average person stopped being a subservient dipshit then we could have true freedom.

[dondada]

Coco's point is fine (though I wish he himself would adhere to it more often). With rights come responsibilities. Free speech needs to be balanced against the rights of the individual. Lies/inaccuracies don't qualify as being protected under 'free speech'.

No, true freedom of speech includes the right to lie.

Unfortunately, it's a myth that we have free speech, anyway. If you don't have a fortune, sometimes you have to STFU, unfortunately.

I partially agree. We don't have free speech in this nation, but we bloody well should have.

If the average person stopped being a subservient dipshit then we could have true freedom.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on the first one. Just a difference of opinion on the definition.

Yes, you might be right re the latter. It's a national shame that people with money (or those who pretend they have money) can use the appalling defamation laws of this country to bully people telling the truth - often vitally important truths - into silence. They come from all corners of the globe to do so...

[LeedsLad]

I'm just glad that I've still got my house and car.... didn't fancy the cardboard box behind the local Asda.

Looked pretty ropey for a while, I must admit.

[Horse]

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on the first one. Just a difference of opinion on the definition.

The major problem is who decides what is true and what is not. I would imagine the super rich get to decide that and I consider that to be unfair to the normal people.

It is far more fair to legally allow incredibly offensive lies.

Yes, you might be right re the latter. It's a national shame that people with money (or those who pretend they have money) can use the appalling defamation laws of this country to bully people telling the truth - often vitally important truths - into silence. They come from all corners of the globe to do so...

Is it such a mad idea that the average person could come to the understanding that everything that they read might not be true?

Could a multi-million pound corporation not refute an offensive allegation using logical arguments, instead of using defamation laws to shut up those who are against them?

[liamlion]

The sites being shut- whats happened?

Forum Closed Until Further Notice...

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Some of you guys really need to learn not to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory of a person's privacy...esp. when you know that certain people read this forum every day. Well done!

Last post posted by esboxing....

What ever happened to freedom of speech eh!?

I really think Bunce nees to get a life

ie people say shit about Liam Gallagher but you don't see him suing rock n roll forums cos he doesn't care, people talk shite and if youre a TV personality people are gonan talk shite who cares its a forum!

Basically fvck off fatty

No, but he did issue legal proceedings against his own brother for defamation.... maybe not such a good choice of an example, my friend.

[Horse]

No, but he did issue legal proceedings against his own brother for defamation.... maybe not such a good choice of an example, my friend.

If a member of my family sued me I would shoe their head in.

What sort of vile shite sues their own family?

The idea of a person suing their own family is extremely revolting to me.

[banjo]

No, but he did issue legal proceedings against his own brother for defamation.... maybe not such a good choice of an example, my friend.

If a member of my family sued me I would shoe their head in.

What sort of vile shite sues their own family?

The idea of a person suing their own family is extremely revolting to me.

What if they've said something about you that isn't true?