Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
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elmersalsa
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Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
On a Saturday afternoon at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas, NV, America and the world witnessed one of the most brutal fights that ever been televised on regular network tv. WBA World Lightweight Champion Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini from Akron, OH, stopped in 13 rounds South Korean Deuk-Koo Kim. It was November 13th, 1982....The fight finished in a tragic ending. Kim dies 4 days later.
Because of this tragedy, the WBC then reduced world title fights from 15 to 12 rounds
Ironically, the fight was a day after the Pryor vs Arguello I fight.
Yes, 30 years have passed. Unbelievable how time flies!
Because of this tragedy, the WBC then reduced world title fights from 15 to 12 rounds
Ironically, the fight was a day after the Pryor vs Arguello I fight.
Yes, 30 years have passed. Unbelievable how time flies!
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MEISINGER
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Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
that was one action packed fight.
this fight triggered a ton of media out cry for the elimination
of the sport.
mancini was never the same after
this fight triggered a ton of media out cry for the elimination
of the sport.
mancini was never the same after
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
It was an amazing fight, that fact gets lost in the tragedy. There wasn't a single moment when that fight should have been stopped, sometimes the sport just reminds us how much these guys risk in there.
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Counter-puncher
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Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It was an amazing fight, that fact gets lost in the tragedy. There wasn't a single moment when that fight should have been stopped, sometimes the sport just reminds us how much these guys risk in there.
excellent point
Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It was an amazing fight, that fact gets lost in the tragedy. There wasn't a single moment when that fight should have been stopped, sometimes the sport just reminds us how much these guys risk in there.
Why did the ref commit suicide?
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MEISINGER
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Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
i remember hearing an interview with a family memberRover wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It was an amazing fight, that fact gets lost in the tragedy. There wasn't a single moment when that fight should have been stopped, sometimes the sport just reminds us how much these guys risk in there.
Why did the ref commit suicide?
claiming he went into a deep depression and was recieving death threats following
the fight.
the guy just could not handle it
Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
Too bad; he did nothing wrong.MEISINGER wrote:i remember hearing an interview with a family memberRover wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It was an amazing fight, that fact gets lost in the tragedy. There wasn't a single moment when that fight should have been stopped, sometimes the sport just reminds us how much these guys risk in there.
Why did the ref commit suicide?
claiming he went into a deep depression and was recieving death threats following
the fight.
the guy just could not handle it
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Ambling Alp II
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Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
That was pretty sad. A reminder how brutal the sport can be, Deuk-Koo Kim fought a great fight and it cost him his life.
Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
His mother committed suicide also.Ambling Alp II wrote:That was pretty sad. A reminder how brutal the sport can be, Deuk-Koo Kim fought a great fight and it cost him his life.
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misterpunch
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Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
saad is right. i watched it again last week and the ref was not at fault at all. just a terrible tragedy. we dont have many in our sport contrary to some opinions.
RIP kim
RIP kim
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MEISINGER
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Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
i agree 100% the ref did a good jobmisterpunch wrote:saad is right. i watched it again last week and the ref was not at fault at all. just a terrible tragedy. we dont have many in our sport contrary to some opinions.
RIP kim
not many ref's if any would of stopped that fight
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el_grande_mauro_mina
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Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
The fiancee and the mother of Kim committed suicide also.MEISINGER wrote:i remember hearing an interview with a family memberRover wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It was an amazing fight, that fact gets lost in the tragedy. There wasn't a single moment when that fight should have been stopped, sometimes the sport just reminds us how much these guys risk in there.
Why did the ref commit suicide?
claiming he went into a deep depression and was recieving death threats following
the fight.
the guy just could not handle it
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vagabundo55
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Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
Won't be forgotten by me as long as I live. How my father told me he was yelling at the ref to stop the fight. How Mancini held his ancestor's hatred because of ties to the military, how Dook Kuh Kim never quite died because he is remembered to this day as giving it all.
Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
His ancestors' hatred?vagabundo55 wrote:Won't be forgotten by me as long as I live. How my father told me he was yelling at the ref to stop the fight. How Mancini held his ancestor's hatred because of ties to the military, how Dook Kuh Kim never quite died because he is remembered to this day as giving it all.
Please. It was a savage fight. No need to bring race into it. Absurd.
Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
Didn't remember that Kim's fiancee killed herself. I know they were married posthumously and that she delivered his child.
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vagabundo55
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Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
Sad part is like with Benny Paret calling Emile Griffith a maricon, Mancini had family members and friends who were veterans of the Korean war. I think he became a better man when he delivered Doo, never again would he fight with the same tenacity. Still he must cry from time to time.Rover wrote:His ancestors' hatred?vagabundo55 wrote:Won't be forgotten by me as long as I live. How my father told me he was yelling at the ref to stop the fight. How Mancini held his ancestor's hatred because of ties to the military, how Dook Kuh Kim never quite died because he is remembered to this day as giving it all.
Please. It was a savage fight. No need to bring race into it. Absurd.
Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
Kim had a makeshift coffin in his hotel room.vagabundo55 wrote:Sad part is like with Benny Paret calling Emile Griffith a maricon, Mancini had family members and friends who were veterans of the Korean war. I think he became a better man when he delivered Doo, never again would he fight with the same tenacity. Still he must cry from time to time.Rover wrote:His ancestors' hatred?vagabundo55 wrote:Won't be forgotten by me as long as I live. How my father told me he was yelling at the ref to stop the fight. How Mancini held his ancestor's hatred because of ties to the military, how Dook Kuh Kim never quite died because he is remembered to this day as giving it all.
Please. It was a savage fight. No need to bring race into it. Absurd.
He was going to fight to the death.
He did.
The Korean War had nothing to do with it.
Neither did Paret's comments before the Griffith fight.
In those days, Griffith was a terrific finisher, and Paret had taken some bad beatings in his career.
No need to bring race into this.
Mancini and Kim fought at a level where someone was going to die.
That simple.
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vagabundo55
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Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
The ref could have stopped it. :(
Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
No reason to have stopped it, as others have said, and that (the ref) had nothing to do with Mancini and the Korean War.vagabundo55 wrote:The ref could have stopped it. :(
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vagabundo55
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Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
I was simply answering your last line about how they were to fight to the death.Rover wrote:No reason to have stopped it, as others have said, and that (the ref) had nothing to do with Mancini and the Korean War.vagabundo55 wrote:The ref could have stopped it. :(
Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
I was saying they both fought at that level; the Korean War is irrelevant.vagabundo55 wrote:I was simply answering your last line about how they were to fight to the death.Rover wrote:No reason to have stopped it, as others have said, and that (the ref) had nothing to do with Mancini and the Korean War.vagabundo55 wrote:The ref could have stopped it. :(
Mancini fought the same way against Frias; Art just fell much, much sooner fortunately.
He fought the same way against Arguello; Alexis was a superior fighter to Kim, however.
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vagabundo55
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Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
You know you're absolutely right about the way it should be boxing I mean, race not mattering but we know how it is sometimes.
Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
And you've shown nothing to indicate that race had anything to do with that fight.vagabundo55 wrote:You know you're absolutely right about the way it should be boxing I mean, race not mattering but we know how it is sometimes.
Both of them fought viciously. One died. That's it.
And the ref's not having stopped it has nothing to do with Mancini's relatives in the Korean War.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
I'm not sure where this underlying racial war was invented, but Ray's Dad served in WWII anyway. Was there another family tragedy that I'm not recalling?
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vagabundo55
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Re: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs Dook Kuh Kim: 30 Years Later
I was referring to Mancini, in any case, he fought ferociously against everyone.Rover wrote:And you've shown nothing to indicate that race had anything to do with that fight.vagabundo55 wrote:You know you're absolutely right about the way it should be boxing I mean, race not mattering but we know how it is sometimes.
Both of them fought viciously. One died. That's it.
And the ref's not having stopped it has nothing to do with Mancini's relatives in the Korean War.