Kyotaro Fujimoto vs. Solomon Haumono

[Giancarlo]

No need to be a prick, Brute, not only is Afa Tatupu a human being (I know you've handed in your card to the human race when you became a cop), but he isn't a poor week junkie being monstered by you and your mates, he is heavy weight boxer with a 2 to one win loss ratio and deserves some respect, as does Fujimoto for stopping him. Your negative bullshit is quite tiresome.

Poor weak junky being monstered. Fk I've heard it all now. By all means pull him into line about disrespecting a boxer, but you've gone and done the exact same thing.

Yeah, it's not like the cops here have a reputation for being bent.

How many Royal Inquiries have we had to fund to try and weed out all the crooked ones?

If I remember rightly, the last one in NSW found corruption was so endemic they had to bring in a pom to take over as they couldn't find an untainted Aussie in the whole top echelon.

[polecateddy]

Yeah we'll you're surrounded cos I'm an ex-UK cop who now a policeman in Australia! Just on the forum
cos I'm a boxing fan and this looks a better forum these days than my old Betfair Boxing one.

[Ipswich Express]

No need to be a prick, Brute, not only is Afa Tatupu a human being (I know you've handed in your card to the human race when you became a cop), but he isn't a poor week junkie being monstered by you and your mates, he is heavy weight boxer with a 2 to one win loss ratio and deserves some respect, as does Fujimoto for stopping him. Your negative bullshit is quite tiresome.

Poor weak junky being monstered. Fk I've heard it all now. By all means pull him into line about disrespecting a boxer, but you've gone and done the exact same thing.

Yeah, it's not like the cops here have a reputation for being bent.

How many Royal Inquiries have we had to fund to try and weed out all the crooked ones?

If I remember rightly, the last one in NSW found corruption was so endemic they had to bring in a pom to take over as they couldn't find an untainted Aussie in the whole top echelon.

I've been ripped off a few times by mechanics, does that mean they're all pricks? Broad sweeping statements and generalisations are inaccurate and easy to make.

To answer your question about Royal "Commissions", off the top of my head - 2 in NSW, 1 in Qld, 2 in WA. Weeding out corruption is a great thing. There's no place for it. So to take a big brush and paint everyone the same makes no sense.

[Brute]

No need to be a prick, Brute, not only is Afa Tatupu a human being (I know you've handed in your card to the human race when you became a cop), but he isn't a poor week junkie being monstered by you and your mates, he is heavy weight boxer with a 2 to one win loss ratio and deserves some respect, as does Fujimoto for stopping him. Your negative bullshit is quite tiresome.

Who the hell is he beaten? Everybody and his auntie has beaten Tutaki. The rest of your drivel is not worth commenting on.

[buster007]

back to the topic, lol.

[Brute]

No need to be a prick, Brute, not only is Afa Tatupu a human being (I know you've handed in your card to the human race when you became a cop), but he isn't a poor week junkie being monstered by you and your mates, he is heavy weight boxer with a 2 to one win loss ratio and deserves some respect, as does Fujimoto for stopping him. Your negative bullshit is quite tiresome.

Poor weak junky being monstered. Fk I've heard it all now. By all means pull him into line about disrespecting a boxer, but you've gone and done the exact same thing.

Yeah, it's not like the cops here have a reputation for being bent.

How many Royal Inquiries have we had to fund to try and weed out all the crooked ones?

If I remember rightly, the last one in NSW found corruption was so endemic they had to bring in a pom to take over as they couldn't find an untainted Aussie in the whole top echelon.

They are called Royal Commissions, dopey. Less than twenty coppers were convicted of anything, most of them being ones who gave evidence. Peter Ryan was a total failure and the only mention I got at the Commission was one of the witnesses who worked with me saying I was very honest. I retired nearly ten years ago without a mark on my record.

[Giancarlo]

Waffle, waffle, waffle.

Was I right about them having to get some UK pork in cos they couldn't find an Aussie one with a clean snout, Brute?

Or was I just bullsh1tting like you again?

[Brute]

Was I right about them having to get some UK pork in cos they couldn't find an Aussie one with a clean snout, Brute?

Or was I just bullsh1tting like you again?

[/quote]

I would say you are sucking your own dick.

[Brute]

No need to be a prick, Brute, not only is Afa Tatupu a human being (I know you've handed in your card to the human race when you became a cop), but he isn't a poor week junkie being monstered by you and your mates, he is heavy weight boxer with a 2 to one win loss ratio and deserves some respect, as does Fujimoto for stopping him. Your negative bullshit is quite tiresome.

Are you a drug addict? Why else would you have sympathy for thieving scum?

[Giancarlo]

No need to be a prick, Brute, not only is Afa Tatupu a human being (I know you've handed in your card to the human race when you became a cop), but he isn't a poor week junkie being monstered by you and your mates, he is heavy weight boxer with a 2 to one win loss ratio and deserves some respect, as does Fujimoto for stopping him. Your negative bullshit is quite tiresome.

Are you a drug addict? Why else would you have sympathy for thieving scum?

Drug addict = thieving scum = deserves a kicking?

That's the sort of mentality we DON'T want in the police force.

[Brute]

Who kicked whom? You are pulling stuff out of your arse.

If you disagree with my description of them as thieving scum, you obviously have had little to do with them. The average heroin addict would steal from his own mother to get a fix.

[crusader]

Some people have criticized Fujimoto's size, experience, and opposition, but conveniently skipped over Haumono's lack of notable wins and his struggles with small and inexperience opponents. Which of his opponents are unquestionably better than Welliver? What about the disastrous performance against 5'10" one-fight novice Royce Sio? What about the draw a few months ago against Wilson, who was held to a SD by Tillman? What about the loss against 38 year old three-fight novice Justin Whitehead? Someone also criticized Fujimoto for not stopping the durable Welliver, yet ignored Haumono's failure to stop Colin Wilson and Cliff Couser, who have been knocked out 17 and 13 times respectively.

I think the bout could go either way, but some of the analyses on here are very simplistic and one-sided (e.g. Haumono will win because he's bigger and Fujimoto was a kick boxer). Fujimoto's boxing abilities enabled him to defeat several very capable kickboxers, he's undefeated as a boxer and widely defeated the far more experienced and higher ranked Welliver, he's apparently durable, and he's fighting at home. Haumono, who is now 37, has never done anything to suggest that his chances of losing to such an opponent are very low.

[Giancarlo]

Who kicked whom? You are pulling stuff out of your arse.

Bent coppers in action.


http://www.news.com.au/national-old/vid ... 6271283171


Footage obtained by The Courier-Mail shows four officers with young dad and chef Noa Begic in the basement of Surfers Paradise police station, where he is kneed and punched while his hands are cuffed behind his back.

Mr Begic, 21, has pleaded not guilty to charges of public nuisance and obstructing police - saying he was arrested for singing in the street after having a few drinks with friends.

The bashing happened about two weeks ago.

Today, Police Commissioner Bob Atkinson said the incident had been subject to investigation since February 6, although the officer was only stood down from operational duties today.

He said the disciplinary action was not a result of media coverage.

Mr Atkinson said officers on the Gold Coast are called on to deal with a higher rate of public nuisance offences - and that sometimes punching someone in the head is "justified’’.

[Cutman Scabbers]

I think the obvious point that's being missed is that Solomon will be being brought over to lose. When did an Aussie last have a successful fight in Japan?

Dale Westerman defeated Yoshinori Nishizawa in June '05 at the same venue that Mohamed Ali defeated Mac Fostrer.

June 2007
Dominic Vea TKO 8 Ryosuke Takahashi

[Brute]

Who kicked whom? You are pulling stuff out of your arse.

Bent coppers in action.


http://www.news.com.au/national-old/vid ... 6271283171


Footage obtained by The Courier-Mail shows four officers with young dad and chef Noa Begic in the basement of Surfers Paradise police station, where he is kneed and punched while his hands are cuffed behind his back.

Mr Begic, 21, has pleaded not guilty to charges of public nuisance and obstructing police - saying he was arrested for singing in the street after having a few drinks with friends.

The bashing happened about two weeks ago.

Today, Police Commissioner Bob Atkinson said the incident had been subject to investigation since February 6, although the officer was only stood down from operational duties today.

He said the disciplinary action was not a result of media coverage.

Mr Atkinson said officers on the Gold Coast are called on to deal with a higher rate of public nuisance offences - and that sometimes punching someone in the head is "justified’’.

I have never even lived in Queensland, you dickhead. Each Australian state has its own force. I am a resident of the metropolitan area of Sydney, New South Wales, and always worked close to home. By the way, before you think of something else, Lindy Chamberlain was locked up by the Northern Territory Police and the Rodney King incident was in los Angeles, California USA.

Bob Atkinson is Commissioner of the Queensland Police Force.

[buster007]

this is a BOXING FORUM.

take the copper talk to private messages.

[polecateddy]

I'd second that. In organisations with thousands of people you're bound to get a few bad eggs. In my ten years in policing in the UK and Australia I've seen no evidence of widespread corruption.

[Giancarlo]

I'd second that. In organisations with thousands of people you're bound to get a few bad eggs. In my ten years in policing in the UK and Australia I've seen no evidence of widespread corruption.

And you'd be just as blind as silly old Brute.

I'm not sure what is worse, bent coppers or colleagues who don't actually solicit kickbacks but enable the others to do it by looking the other way.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19728951

Nearly 50 Metropolitan Police officers have been suspended for corruption in three years, figures show.

[polecateddy]

Argh! As someone else said this isn't the place. You clearly are somebody who has a bee in your bonnet with the police and can quote some headlines you've googled. I was in Cumbria Police and I'm now part of SAPOL - I doubt you'll find much Google evidence for those two forces other than the usual few rogue individuals getting caught out, not some vast criminal conspiracy or whatever you are imagining?! Real life is not an episode of Underbelly believe it or not! Lol

[Giancarlo]

Argh! As someone else said this isn't the place. You clearly are somebody who has a bee in your bonnet with the police and can quote some headlines you've googled. I was in Cumbria Police and I'm now part of SAPOL - I doubt you'll find much Google evidence for those two forces other than the usual few rogue individuals getting caught out, not some vast criminal conspiracy or whatever you are imagining?! Real life is not an episode of Underbelly believe it or not! Lol

Chief constable of Cumbria police suspended over claims of serious misconduct...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nduct.html

Eddy, hopefully you weren't a detective. Lol.

[polecateddy]

Lol! I didn't even check, Cumbria is pretty quiet usually. Of course that doesn't mean 'kick-backs' and criminal conspiracies. It could be anything like claiming extra expenses for example. I can guarantee it wouldn't be Underbelly-esq! :)

[polecateddy]

Also they are only claims and may be unproven following the investigation.

[Giancarlo]

Lol! I didn't even check, Cumbria is pretty quiet usually. Of course that doesn't mean 'kick-backs' and criminal conspiracies. It could be anything like claiming extra expenses for example. I can guarantee it wouldn't be Underbelly-esq! :)

Oh, well, if he's only fiddling his expenses it's OK.

Eddy, what is this Underbelly you keep mentioning?

Its not a fictional TV cop show or something you are mistaking for a documentary is it?

And, just to put my mind at rest, can you confirm you are employed in a position where brawn rather than brains is the main requirement? Lol.

[polecateddy]

It's a fictional show popular in Australia. Anyway, that's enough of this silly police discussion. I was merely responding to the other idiot who was trying to suggest that all police officers are bent.

[buster007]

would u get rid of this shit ffs.

stop ruining yet another topic.

do it by personal message if u want to have the police discussion. how hard is that to do?

thanks guys.