Cameron vs Green who you got?

[polecateddy]

Hmm... Why don't you go some research and look at the post above mine. I wasn't referring to Green and Cameron, but Lovett and whatshisname. Of course I have heard of Green and Cameron. I don't think either is a tomato can!

[dan h]

anyone catch the official weights?

[ra2006]

Hi guys, I am back!

Interesting fight and as I have been away from the scene for 2 years and have'nt seen alot of both fighters, from what I have seen on youtube I am going for a Danny Green stoppage.
Considering my best prediction of all time on this board was that RJJ was going to tear Green a new butt hole in 3 rounds, I would be putting any pennies based upon my prediction!!

And I will not comment on the validity of the IBollox title as a geniune world championship belt, I suspect many people on here will remember my views on that subject.

Good to be back on the board and in Syd, looking forward to duelling with you guys again!

Andy

[buster007]

99.9% of viewers don't care about what title is up for grabs anyway.

they just want to see a ripper contest.

i pick green for ko.

[Brute]

anyone catch the official weights?

They seem to be a secret.

[Stinger]

Official weigh in is at 6pm this evening. I have heard from someone at the 'Media Weigh-In" that Cameron was 1.5kgs over the limit but was confident of making weight by this evening.

[Sweet P]

Cameron 88.5
Green 87.15

[amwsnw]

Shane's weighed in very light. I wasnt sure until today what the agreed weight was, but 88.5 seems to be a stretch too far for Shane. But he looked good at the weighin and sounded confident. I see danny catching him around round 5-6. Lets hope its entertaining as long as it lasts.

[N2 Shape]

I cant help but feel like this weight loss will play a significant role in tonights fight. Shane came in UNDER the agreed limit of 89kgs. How much has the effort and im talking the diet, the training etc taken on shane? Hes talking like hes feeling strong etc but he has to say that the proof will be in the pudding. He looked less than impressive against McCracken, Ammann and Vea until the KO punch.

If Danny can keep out of Danger inside the first 6 rounds i think he will either get home on points or perhaps even stop shane late if if the weight loss takes its toll and he finds himself weakening at the backend of the fight. I feel like Green will get stronger throughout the fight while after rounds 5/6 shane will taper off.

Shanes best bet is to end it early or at least do enough damage early that Green slows down as well.

[Like a Boss]

Cameron will have to stop or hurt Green early or Green will jab and evade his way to an easy points win. It could make for a boring last few rounds if it goes that far.

[scottearley123456]

O dont think that the weigjt is going to be an issue for cameron. Its not his first time at cruiser . Admitidly he looked crap in his last few fights at the weight but he has had plenty of time to drop probably 10 kilos i think he was 106 kgs for barrett bit keep in mind he hadnt dropped any fluid whatsoever and they rekon he will be 96 ish kgs for the fight so its not that bigger drop realy over four months. I also think we will see the best shane cameron yet. Ths is his big chance so i doubt he has taken it lightly.. on the otherside of the coin ypu have green who has copped two out of three floggins and his last win was an easy one . He is also 39 now and im sure injuries in train are frequent . So even though green might box his ears off for a good few rounds i dont see him stopping cameron and will only get a decision if he has the engine to stay out of harms way. 10kgs between two fighters is massive green has seriously got some balls or is he ove confident?

[N2 Shape]

First off Shane was 97kgs for the Barrett fight not 106kgs. So hes gone and lost ANOTHER 10kgs (or close to it) to get to 88.5kgs. I dont think we should be makihng out as if the weight loss is the ONLY talking point and will be the determining factor but i still think it'll be interesting to see how much its effected Shane if at all, and as i have already commented I believe it will. Especially the longer the fight goes.

Agree also that the last 3-4 rounds could be a bit boring if Green is feeling comfortable and on his way to a points victory, not need to silly risks against the bigger, stronger opponent. Although havent seen ONE boring Cameron fight.

Yes Green was stopped by Tarver and Wlod but no shame in that Both of those guys would beat each of the guys Shanes beaten!

[scottearley123456]

sorry mate my mistake he was 97 but like i said thats 97 kilos full of food fully hydrated! even at 97 kgs he would easily and i mean easily be able to loose 3 plus kgs on the day of the weigh in just through water! so he could have been 94 when he fought barret if there was a weight restrition. what im saying is you cant look at the 97 from the barret fight and then look At the catchweight of 88.5 kg and say omg he had to loose 8.5 kilos!!! realisticly he has only had to loose at the MOST 5.5kg and he has had months to do it. so honestly i cant see it being a neggative point for him if anything the extra training and better diet has probably done him good!

also when green was boxing the pole he could have danced around and stayed out of harms way to cruise to an EASy win but he didnt do it there so i cant see him doing it with cameron eigher.

i think green is in for a tough night as cameron is the biggest guy he has faced, not the best skilled

[cjscott]

With Shanes go forward style and pressure he will put on Danny i am taking Shane to win by TKO.Losing the weight anit an issue and thought the best Shane had looked in a long time.

NZ TAB ODDS Head to Head Green $1.85
Shane $1.95

[ra2006]

Cameron has always been found out when he has stepped up. I remember the Tua fight, I am afraid Cameron does not have the armory nor craft to compete with Danny. I have watched Shanes and dannys previous fights now and can absolutely say with 100% certainty Danny will win this.

In Shanes last few fights he has

- beaten Vea with a 12 rnd KO and Vea is not in Dannys class, although a tough operator.
- UD'ed a former RL player whom he should have dispatched easily given Shanes size/weight/reach/ability advantage
- KO'ed a washed up heavyweight, not knocking Monte but he has definately seen better days

Green has been in the ring with the best in the division, and there is absolutely no shame in losing against world class opposition the way he did. I actually respect fighter more for taking fight against thw best in their division instead of padding their records.

I have no idea how people here think that this is going to be easy for Shane and he will romp home with a victory, it is very clear to me that he will be dispatched here and Danny will be the victor in a few hours time!!

[scottearley123456]

Cameron has always been found out when he has stepped up. I remember the Tua fight, I am afraid Cameron does not have the armory nor craft to compete with Danny. I have watched Shanes and dannys previous fights now and can absolutely say with 100% certainty Danny will win this.

In Shanes last few fights he has

- beaten Vea with a 12 rnd KO and Vea is not in Dannys class, although a tough operator.
- UD'ed a former RL player whom he should have dispatched easily given Shanes size/weight/reach/ability advantage
- KO'ed a washed up heavyweight, not knocking Monte but he has definately seen better days

Green has been in the ring with the best in the division, and there is absolutely no shame in losing against world class opposition the way he did. I actually respect fighter more for taking fight against thw best in their division instead of padding their records.

I have no idea how people here think that this is going to be easy for Shane and he will romp home with a victory, it is very clear to me that he will be dispatched here and Danny will be the victor in a few hours time!!

i think your absolutely right about the skill level but dont forget green has had recent beatings and cameron hasnt lost for a while plus the size and age differnce. i would love to see greeny win this one i think he deserves it but i doubt that its going to be an easy fight by any stretch,

[Craig14]

With Shanes go forward style and pressure he will put on Danny i am taking Shane to win by TKO.Losing the weight anit an issue and thought the best Shane had looked in a long time.

NZ TAB ODDS Head to Head Green $1.85
Shane $1.95

I got $2.60 on Cameron a couple of weeks ago - fingers crossed.

[ra2006]

Thank you, I'll get me coat!!

[Brute]

With Shanes go forward style and pressure he will put on Danny i am taking Shane to win by TKO.Losing the weight anit an issue and thought the best Shane had looked in a long time.

NZ TAB ODDS Head to Head Green $1.85
Shane $1.95

I got $2.60 on Cameron a couple of weeks ago - fingers crossed.

Shoulda kept brass in pocket!

[N2 Shape]

Not here to brag, just after post fight comments Re the weight loss shane went through to make the agreed weight limit. Before the fight i said it would effect him and post fight I believe it certainly did! Who'd have picked Green to walk Shane backwards through the fight, and mix it with him on the inside. Yes Green fought VERY well he stuck to his gameplan, fought either way on the outside of way on the inside he didnt give Shane any room to tee off and didnt sit in range of his right hand. Shane as i predicted faded throughout the fight he looked his strongest in the first 4 rounds from then onwards he just lacked the juice to really hurt Danny. And definately lacked the jucie down the stretch. YEs he was certainly fit enough to go the distance but the explosiveness just wasnt there end of story!

Thoughts?

[AT MAGIC]

Well done Danny you proved me wrong , skill can beat power , unlucky Shane hearty effort none the less , still plenty of fights out there for you , Maybe Pitt or Fujimoto next. Your loss may give SBW a little confident boost and come knocking on ur door?

[Brute]

Great effort considering Green copped broken ribs in the first round.

[dan h]

Great effort by Green but I think the weight drop severely affected Cameron. Took away a lot of his power.

I have no problem with it as Green need some advantage to off set the huge size difference, but it is very hypocritical for him to try and discredit Mundine's win over him by saying choc fought a weight drained shell of a ghost, and then feel as if making cameron do exactly that was ok???

[scottearley123456]

Great effort by Green but I think the weight drop severely affected Cameron. Took away a lot of his power.

I have no problem with it as Green need some advantage to off set the huge size difference, but it is very hypocritical for him to try and discredit Mundine's win over him by saying choc fought a weight drained shell of a ghost, and then feel as if making cameron do exactly that was ok???

Cameron was hardly a ghost was he. The more i think about it he didnt have to drop bugger all! He fought at about 94 kgs! His fight with barret was only at 97kgs that 3 kilos in four months. The weigh in would have been piece of cake for him. I fight at 64,5kgs and will weigh in this arvo at 61 kgs so if my tiny little body can loose 3,5kgs in one day comfortably the cameron would be able to do 5,5kgs no problem what so ever.

In regards to green fighti g mundine though i dont see what green is complaining about he took the fight when he at SMiddle when he new he couldnt realy make it anymore. The sulivan fight was proof of that. Maybe he is sayi g i fought you at your weight now fight me at mine

[Craig14]

With Shanes go forward style and pressure he will put on Danny i am taking Shane to win by TKO.Losing the weight anit an issue and thought the best Shane had looked in a long time.

NZ TAB ODDS Head to Head Green $1.85
Shane $1.95

I got $2.60 on Cameron a couple of weeks ago - fingers crossed.

Shoulda kept brass in pocket!

Yep thems the breaks, I thought instead of paying 40 bucks ppv I'd bung it on Cameron.